The text of the Koran is undeniable. How can you be Muslim and still support our Constitution?

by Infidelesto on December 28, 2006 · Comments

In Islam, all non-Muslims are called unbelievers or infidels. The treatment of the infidels in Islam is divided into two categories. The polytheists, pagans, idolaters and heathens have the choice of converting to Islam or suffer death. The Jews and Christians, whom the Koran calls people of the book, can retain their religion but on the sufferance of accepting humiliation and subjugation to Islam and payment of Jizyah (poll-tax) to the Islamic rulers [For more detail read this article: Unfettered Religious Freedom in Islam – A Fact or Fiction? - by Alamgir Hussain].

Now, let us have a closer look at what the Koran says about the infidels:-

  • Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
  • Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
  • When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
  • Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
  • Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
  • The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
  • Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
  • The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
  • Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
    (22:19)
  • Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
  • The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
  • Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
  • Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
  • Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

The Qur’an certainly proclaims that when the time is appropriate, Muslims must use force to convert the unbelievers to Islam. For the non-Muslims, the alternative to this is to pay the humiliating protection money (Jizya tax) or be killed (by beheading, of course). A militarily dominant Islam, without doubt, precludes the peaceful co-existence with the unbelievers if the Muslims have to abide strictly by the unalterable stipulations of the Qur’an.

This is why we see very few “moderate” muslims coming out and speaking against the violence. There is so much overwhelming evidence stacked against them not able to be “moderate” because of the fundamental belief’s of Islam.

Referenced from Islam-Watch

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  • darkmatter1
    Im not a muslim nor a part of any religion. I like science and facts. I believe this argument has no resolution. Please enrich your life with information, because this will get you closer to your greatest desire. Absolute cognition is left for the one they call "God" and the only way we could achieve this goal is if we all merged as one, mind body and sole. If you can understand my dimension of thought, than you understand where I found God, for myself.

    This is a list of importanat information for this blog. that i found, about the Bible.
    http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/l...
  • jeffrey1001
    You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34

    Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

    Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

    Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

    Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

    Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

    Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

    I wonder where I got those quotes from.

    Anyways, you took quotes out of context. (Just how I did, See how easily it can be done?)

    Let's say you said "Hitler was good for Germany's economy, but that doesn't excuse the horrible crimes he committed'.

    Then I can go around saying 'So-and-so said 'Hitler was good.' ...'

    See how I left the rest out? and just left pieces of it?

    See how easily taking things out of context can be?

    Try to refrain from doing that, but who am I to tell you what not to do? Your hate for Muslims over-powers any logic, any common sense you have in your little hateful minds.
  • nathan234
    im muslim, I hate killing i have plenty of christian and catholic friends baptist, and mormon (etc.) islamis a very beautiful religion. so r others like morman they dont drink. jewish they dont eat filthy animals like pig, christians you worship god. we were all sent downhere for a reason ..... thank you.
  • JEWHAWK
    "nathan234?"
    A MUSLIM picking a JEWISH NICKNAME? How ODD...and DECEITFUL.


    "islamis a very beautiful religion"

    Really?
    I beg to disagree,Sir.
    Islam is as beautiful as a PUS- FILLED SORE.


    "filthy animals like pig"

    They are not filthy.
    Muslims are.


    "christians you worship god"

    They do.
    You worship SATAN,but call it "Allah".


    "we were all sent downhere for a reason ..... "

    Whereas everyone else were sent "downhere", muslims were spawned
    in HELL and sent "uphere".WHY?
    To transform our societies into an ISLAMIC,SHARIA LAW-OBEYING
    CESSPOOL...a MUSLIM SWAMP,an INTELLECTUAL DESERT,as Beejj accurately
    depicted earlier.

    Have a wonderful day!!!
  • abraham
    Everything you wrote was correct! If you swapped "islam" or "muslim" with judaism.
    And yes, pigs are filthy.
  • Beejj
    Nope, pigs are not filthy. A filthy pig is evidence of a filthy owner. But can anything compare with Islam for utter hopelessness of the human condition? To embrace Islam is to betray all that is noble and inspirational about the human being. Islam says, "Close your eyes and mind. Do not think. Memorise and believe. Question nothing. Be intolerant of those not similarly enslaved. Nothing of merit is to be found outside the pages of the Koran, for it alone is Truth. Do not follow the false Gods of Reason, and shun the beguiling and persuasive messages of those who would turn you away from Islam's loving arms. Human learning reached its zenith when our blessed prophet, pbuh, spoke his mighty words. His every utterance was the distillation of wisdom. Ask not why Allah waited so long for His Truth to be revealed, but bless the day the Unblemished One, pbuh, was granted Enlightenment. For did not the prophet, pbuh, tell us that he was the last and greatest of the prophets and that all who came before him were imperfections? Ask not why Allah did not simultaneously reveal himself to the multitudes of China and India so that the spread of Truth might be hastened. Question nothing! Obey! Submit! Ask not why Allah did not tell the prophet, pbuh, the workings of the stars or the nature of light and matter: be content with that which was revealed. Desist from doubting the prophet's word on the basis that he had no-one to corroborate his tellings of The Visitations. Your loving parents didst reveal to you the Great Truths. Their station in life might have been lowly, but they had received The Word from their parents, so no argument can be brooked. Be not enticed by the persuasiveness of science: your parents stand above science. Look upon all other religions with pity and loathing, for their beliefs and practices are beneath contempt. You hold the mortgage on Truth, for the prophet, pbuh, deemed it so."
  • islam786
    War is only allowed as a measure of security, and is restricted to fighting in self-defense. All aggressors have been strongly condemned. As long as disputes can be settled through conciliatory means and rights and claims can be peacefully attained and imposed, we are required to refrain from fighting. Only, when there is no other option, must we then fight with full vitality and induce the enemy to see his relief in peaceful and equitable co-existence with the believers. The rules of war are explained in the following verses:

    [QURAN SURAH 2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.

    [QURAN SURAH 2:191] You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers.

    [QURAN SURAH 2:192] If they refrain, then GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

    [QURAN SURAH 2:193] You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors.

    We are instructed that all fighting is regulated by the basic rule in 60:8-9. Fighting is allowed strictly in self-defense, while aggression and oppression are strongly condemned throughout the Quran.

    [QURAN SURAH 2:256] There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.

    PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING VERSE - KIND OF SUMS UP MOST OF THE STUFF GOING ON IN THESE FORUMS !!!!

    [QURAN SURAH 3:7] He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses—which constitute the essence of the scripture—as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this—all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.
  • hellosnackbar
    Hell's teeth Islam 786 you're back again with more specious bilge from the book of nonsense
    (aka The Koranus).
    You've been told before that an argument from authority (the Koranus)is fallacious unless
    that authority is recognised as such.
    Islam is a pathology like Malaria; with you as the disease carrying vector(Anopheles mosquito)carrying the pathogen(Plasmodium falciperum).
    It's a debilitating disease from which you are clearly infected.
    It's signs are an inability to think;and it's symptoms are chronic verbal diarrhoea which issues constantly from your diseased mind.(from both ends of your alimentary tract via your keyboard).
    Can't you get it into your head that quotes like "Only those who possess intelligence will take heed"are the pathognomic cant of the delusional.
    Madder than a madman who's overdosed on mad pills!
    That's you sunshine;your mind's a mess!
  • Bronwyn
    You hate killing. Good. Islam loves killing. You saw the proof from the Koran at the beginning of this post. You read the Koran's exhortations to behead and kill the unbeliever. Islam requires you to do what you say you hate. Posts which follow this correctly point out that the Koran allows the rape of children and the murder of women among other atrocities. It requires all Muslims to behave like the pigs you say are unclean. Islam is a curse not a beautiful religion. What are you going to do about it? Why are you engaged in this farce of trying to make what is hideous look beautiful? Tell the truth. And have the personal courage and self respect to admit the truth when you see it in front of your face.
  • islam786
    [QURAN SURAH 3:7] He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses—which constitute the essence of the scripture—as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this—all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.
  • Bronwyn
    Aren't you the man who refuses to admit that sex with a 6 year old is a hideous crime? You are viciously wicked, but you knew that. No wonder you produce your writings to justify your deeds. You really need a savior. I know what it is to be GUITY, to twist and turn to blame everyone but yourself for the evil that you have done. Face it . You personally deserve the hell you threaten others with. You haven't a clue to what goodness is much less how to achieve it. I know how you feel. I have been where you stand. I tell you frankly that Jesus is your only way out. Jesus Christ loves his creation. For love of you God wrapped Himself in flesh and came to earth to save that which is lost. You are lost.

    You don't need to stay lost. The Savior who was crucified for me was crucified for you and for all people, for everyone who needs a savior. Jesus rose from the dead and returned to Heaven. His death and resurrection are the evidence that God forgives sins and that he loves human beings. Read the New Testament and confront Jesus Christ. I personally advise you to start with the gospel of John, then read the other gospels, the rest of the New Testament. When Christians have preferred death to renouncing the resurrection of Jesus Christ and his power to change a human heart, haven't you ever wondered why they prefer to die? If you read the gospel of John, start with John 3:16, then go back to the beginning and read. See what you think. I have reproduced John 3:16 for you here below.

    For God so loved the world that he gave his only
    begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should
    nor perish, but have everlasting life. (KJV)
  • Anders
    Who had sex with a 6 year old? The prophet (pbuh) did not have intercourse with his young wife until she became an adult.
  • Beejj
    Nine years old is an adult?????? You people are terminally sick.
  • Kal_El
    why you care,

    That is pretty weak as far as rebuttals go.  As for hell, if anyone is going there it is muslims who rape women for not wearing an abbayat with a niqab/hijab, muslims who have sex with children (JUST LIKE MUHAMMAD DID WITH AIYESHA) and/or farm animals, muslims who behead Jews, Christians, Buddhists, etc.., while shouting allahu ackbar as other muslims film it for posterity. As for muslims going where they please, and being here  to rule, we have seen the result of muslim rule, in Saudi, Iran, and Yemen. All shithole countries. All backwards and stuck in the 7th century, worshipping pedophile muhammad.
  • why you care
    this goes to spooky
    dude u one heck of a dude that will dwell in hell hehehehehe
    funny huh well guess what. we "muslims" will and go every where we please so if u don't like it u leave... cuz we're here to rule.
  • coldjoint
    do any lawmakers read these articles. we need to stop islam pure and simple. save this country then go back to your bickering across party lines .wake up.
  • Bigmo
    9.7. How can there be a league, before God and His Messenger, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God doth love the righteous.

    9.8. How (can there be such a league), seeing that if they get an advantage over you, they respect not in you the ties either of kinship or of covenant? With (fair words from) their mouths they entice you, but their hearts are averse from you; and most of them are rebellious and wicked.

    Also

    9.13. Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is God Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe!

    Also:

    To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what God hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If God had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to God; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute; (5.48)
  • Spooky

    It seems pretty undeniable that Islam is evil. How to fix it? The only way to cleanse our society of this evil is to treat the bastards like they want to treat us. Why mess around? Let's go for it. No Mosques in western countries and if believers in Islam want to visit one they can take a one way trip to an Islamic country. We don't need them. They have nothing to offer.

  • Abbadon Satanson
    Nuke Israel. Don't you think that somewhat excessive? Perhaps trade sanctions might be more appropriate than mass murder. Just a thought.....
  • First of if you want to see a religion of pure hatred thats Judaism. Im not saying Islam is the religion of peace, but Islam is a heck a lot more peaceful (both in theology and practice) than the Jewish cult. Its like Jesus was more peaceful than Mohammed, and Mohammed was more peaceful than Moses.

    Secondly you can be of a religious persuation and not categorically believe in it. For example, myself a Catholic (lite) can believe that the US Constitution trumps papal decrees from the Vatican. So too can a Moslem choose to adhere to American Laws even if they conflict with like a religious fatwa.

    Make the World a Better Place. Nuke Israel.
  • Carrington
    What a good post! Most "religions" have a common pursuit of love and peace and it blows me away to see one that encourages such hate and violence. How can anyone deny this with so much evidence?
  • The fact is that any Muslim who is a true believer cannot take an oath to support and defend our constitution and laws--not in the military, not in the CIA, FBI, or Police, and not in political office.

    Think about that!

    Good post!
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