Infidels vs Islam: The Final War

by Infidelesto on September 19, 2007 · View Comments

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I fear this kind of rheteoric may be 10 – 15 years too early.  I really don’t think America is ready for this kind of talk, but it needs to be said and the world will look back on this and see that all of the bloggers out there who are fighting to save America, were right all along. We can’t see it now.  The mainstream is incapable of seeing this now.

Some of us the gift of discernment.  Some are able to see past the waters edge.  Some are able to understand where this quiet threat will soon lead us.  Sadly most of America and the Western world are silent and hopeful for a peaceful outcome.  Unfortunately that’s not the case according to Islamic teachings. This article is rather blunt and harsh, but still NEEDS to be read and pondered.

Every day we see threatening ideology of Islamic culture.

Everyday there are new stories in the news about the latest Islamic terrorist attack somewhere throughout the world.

Every day we see our liberal counterparts tear down themselves in a pitiful display of self loathing.

In a previous post, I commented on the 20 steps to the Islamic invasion of America. It’s a chilling list of tactics used by educated Islamic extremists here in America to assimilate into American culture and systematically transform this country to a Sharia ruled nation, all from the ground up, through the legal system, through the courts and through the media.  They will use our own political and social system to bring us to our knees.

There is a different kind of Jihad in America, the kind that uses our own rule of law, and constitution to aquire power from within. This kind of peaceful jihad is what burns America the most.  Here are some questions to ponder

  • How can we stop it?
  • How can we defend ourselves from an Islamic invasion?
  • How can we eliminate the Islamic threat without breaking our own set of values?
  • Is this even possible, or have we sealed our own demise?

The following is a Quote from an ex-Muslim by the name of Abdul Rahman of Faithfreedom.org and ApostatesofIslam.com:  via Isaac Shrodinger, InfidelBloggerAlliance, Citizen Warrior,

Who will tell you the truth about Islam? Muslims? Of course not.  Muslims can’t even see the evil in Islam. The West? The gullible West has no clue. Then who? Ex-Muslims and ex-Muslims only can expose Islam to the West.

Muslims believe Islam will rule the world, very soon. They are committed to it. The constitution for the new Islamic Republic of EU and USA is under construction. Welcome to the 21st Century Islamic Warfare. To the infidels of the West, Muslims say: We will fight the infidel to death. And they mean it.

Meanwhile, Muslims are able to say with complete confidence:

  • American laws will protect us.
  • Democrats and Leftists will support us.
  • The UN will legitimize us
  • CAIR and MAB will incubate us.
  • The ACLU will support us.
  • Western Universities will educate us.
  • Mosques in the West will shelter us.
  • OPEC will finance us.
  • Moderate Muslims will fertilize us.
  • Hollywood will love us.
  • We will use your (West) welfare system.
  • When time comes, we will stab America in the back as we did on 9/11 and 7/7, the Islamic way
  • We will say one thing on the camera (Islam is the religion of peace) and teach another thing (Quran 8:12 Terrorize and behead the infidels wherever you find them) to our children at home.
  • We will teach our children Islamic supremacy from their earliest childhood. We will take over Europe first and then the U.S. will be the next. We already have a solid ground in the UK, Holland, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Germany, and now in the U.S.
  • Who are we? We are the “sleeper cells” next door.
  • At the time of the real fight we will hold our own children as our armor – this is the Islamic way. When American or Israeli troops shoot at us the world will be watching. Imagine, just imagine the news in the world: “Death of Muslim babies by infidels”.
  • We say to the West: Keep your Nukes in your curio cabinets.
  • Keep your aircraft carriers and high-tech weaponry in the showcase.
  • You can’t use them against us because of your own higher moral standard.
  • The West manufactures their tanks in the factory. We Muslims will manufacture our military force by natural means — by producing more babies. It is cheaper that way. You infidels cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion strong and we will double our population again.
  • Using the Western legal system we will assert our Sharia Laws, slowly but surely.
  • Moderate Muslims will say there is no link between Islam and terrorism and the West will believe it because the West is so gullible.
  • Moderate Muslims all over the world will inadvertently incubate Jihadists by defending Islam as a religion of peace, by telling this to their children and the world.
  • There will be more 9/11s in Europe and in America. We will say, “We do not support terrorism but America got what it deserved.”
  • We will recite the Quran and say Allah-Hu-Akbar before beheading infidels, as we have been doing it. We will videotape those and send them to infidels to watch. The infidels will surrender — ISLAM means surrender.
  • Islam is the fastest growing religion among convicts in prison all over the word. 30% of French prison inmates are already converted to Islam.
  • We will use your (Western) own values of kindness against you. You (the West) are destined to lose.

I personally don’t think we are destined to lose.  I believe there is still a chance to fight back.  One can never submit or surrender to defeat if one seeks ultimate victory.

The lies of the leftists are digging our grave as we speak.  For those of you who understand the threat before us, know full and well what I speak of.

Our brethren are dying for this cause right now in Iraq and Afghanistan.  President Bush is doing his best to fight the war although the enemy within has tied his hands with media scrutiny and democratic legislation.

The hope we have as free people is to fight this fight ourselves, educating the masses.  I believe that ex-Muslims need to lead the charge.  They are the ones who will have the most credibility, since they have been through hell and back, and survived it.

One day, the people will speak, the people will be heard.  We will put a leader in charge that understands this threat and who is prepared to face it head on.

And regardless of what happens during WWIII with Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia, it doesn’t end there.  The fight at home will be even harder because we will be fighting it ourselves.  We won’t have our powerful military to do the job for us.  We are responsible for our own future.

What happens in the next 10-15 years will shape Western Civilization into the history books.  Let’s hope it’s our way and not theirs.

This is truly the FINAL WORLD WAR.

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  3. An Infidels point of view: "They are Muslims"
  4. Infidels memo: On this day…9-11…we remember why we fight
  5. Can Islam be reformed?
  • Gregg

    Good summary. Good job in writing this. Sure is sad that the MSM won’t wake up to this islamic crap. I just can’t understand why the left is so determined to destroy this country. …Why?
    At least my church pastor has talked about muslims, and the whole congregation sees the threat…..
    Worthless damned Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians and Catholics are all keeping their heads in the sand though.

  • scott

    If we are going to stop this then we better quit pretending that Islam is a religion. See my proposal to ban Islam in the US.

    Thursday, February 08, 2007
    A Proposed Constitutional Amendment
    Background and justification to Amendment 28

    Whereas Religion is defined as an institution dedicated to improving social conscience and promoting individual and societal spiritual growth in a way that is harmless to others not participating in or practicing the same;

    Whereas the United States of America was founded on the ideals of individual rights, including the individual right to practice one’s religion of choice, or no religion, and that there would be no compulsion of religion, nor state sanctioned religion, nor a “religious test” for participation in the body politic;

    Whereas Islam includes a complete political and social structure, encompassed by its religious law, Sharia, that supersedes any civil law and that Islam mandates that no secular or democratic institutions are to be superior to Islamic law;

    Whereas Islam preaches that it and it alone is the true religion and that Islam will dominate the world and supplant all other religions and democratic institutions;

    Whereas Saudi Arabia, the spiritual home of Islam does not permit the practice of any other religion on its soil and even “moderate” Muslims states such as Turkey and Malaysia actively suppress other religions;

    Whereas Islam includes as its basic tenet the spread of the faith by any and all means necessary, including violent conquest of non-believers, and demands of its followers that they implement violent jihad (holy war) against those un-willing to convert or submit to Islam, including by deception and subversion of existing institutions;

    Whereas on 9/11/2001 19 Muslim hijackers acting in the name of Islam killed 3,000 Americans, and numerous other acts of terrorism have been directed at the American people around the world;

    Whereas representatives of Islam around the world including Osama Bin Laden (architect of 9/11), the government of Iran including Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, HAMAS, Hezbollah, and other Islamic groups have declared jihad (war) on America, and regularly declare that America should cease to exist;

    Whereas there is no organized Islamic opposition to violent proponents of Islam;

    Therefore: Islam is not a religion, but a political ideology more akin to Fascism and totally in opposition to the ideals of freedom as described in the United States Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.

    Be it resolved that the following Amendment to the Constitution be adopted:

    Article I

    The social/political/ideological system known around the world as Islam is not recognized in the United States as a religion.

    The practice of Islam is therefore not protected under the 1st Amendment as to freedom of religion and speech.

    Article II

    As representatives of Islam around the world have declared war, and committed acts of war, against the United States and its democratic allies around the world, Islam is hereby declared an enemy of the United States and its practice within the United States is now prohibited.

    Article III

    Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.

    The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing war on democratic and other non-Islamic values.

    The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as prescribed by Congress. Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.

    Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.

    Article IV

    Nothing in this amendment shall be construed as authorizing the discrimination against, of violence upon, nor repudiation of the individual rights of those Americans professing to be Muslim. The individual right of conscience is sacrosanct and the practice of Islam within the privacy of home and self is strictly protected to the extent that such individuals do not violate the prohibitions described in Article III.
    —
    first posted at http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html

    Scott
    Phx, AZ
    robscottwilk@yahoo.com

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  • Infidelesto

    Thanks Gregg. The whole country has its head in the sand right now. Like I said, this kind of talk is about 10-15 years too early for the American people to handle.

  • Greyrooster

    If America doesn’t wake up soon it will be to late. Like our President Bush says. What do you do with 20 million illegal Mexicans? In 15 yrs we will ask what do we do with 20 million muslims intent on destroying America? There is only one solution. OUTLAW ISLAM.

  • http://JTF.org VisitJTFdotOrgNOW!!!

    I totally agree with Greyrooster, Islam needs to be outlawed the same way the Communist Party was outlawed back in the 50s, that’s the only way to stop sharia law from being implemented in the US.

  • http://www.geocities.com/crusadersarmory/ Ben

    Scott has the right idea.
    At present, there are 28 signatures on the Outlaw Islam petition. Why not add yours to the list? Why not copy the full text of the petition[with hyperlinks not in the posted copy]and email it to everyone in your address book, urging the recipients to pass it on? If not us, who? If not now, when?
    http://snooper.wordpress.com/2007/12/31/outlaw-islam/

    You can join more than 300 people urging the World Court to outlaw Islam:
    http://www.petitiononline.com/MYSTIC/petition.html

  • http://Yahoo.com Emran

    ISLAM Vs THE WEST

    It seems that there are certain “Domestic Dogs” who are barking from within their master’s house. They talk high of their “rotten” Democracy & speak against Islam by describing it as a “Terrorist” cult. That is exactly what cheap people do. I am asking them to come out of their mother’s lap & be men enough to speak on the stage. Not like hiding behind their computer screens & taking advantage of not being seen. This sickness is very common in America. Well ofcourse it is a “Land of Gays.” We Muslims have challenged the whole world to come have open dialogues with us. Anybody who has dared, we have made for him his life a misery because when we roar on the stage, they leak in their pants. Take an example of Jimmy Swaggart, the greatest evangelist of America. Our beloved, Sheikh Ahmad Deedat, busted him open from the back in the greatest debate of the century in his own America. Not to mention that few years later that Swaggart was caught in the act of adultery. Now nobody has enough sperm to come & have debate with us on the stage in front of the whole world. Sorry, I forgot. How can timid puppies compete with roaring lions.

    As for those, gutless, spermless cowards (especially Americans) who think & speak against Islam, let me tell you that Islam is the best thing that has ever happened to this world. We are ready to lay down our life for it. We are not hypocrites like you. What you say, We are terrorists? I say yes, we are terrorists. And our enemy is not a Christian or Jew or a Hindu or America or Israel. But our enemy is anyone who spreads evil in this world whether muslim or non-muslim e.g. George Bush, the Satan. If somehow he comes in our hands, we are going to tear him apart. We know what his evil intentions are. That he is after our natural resources, e.g. the Oil. And we also know that it was he who did the September 11 attack and killed 3000 innocent Americans. We also know that his motive behind September 11 attacks was to capture the middle east territories and justify his hooliganism in the name of fight against terrorism. He is the one who makes us terrorists & then use sophisticated weapons against us. But we Muslims we are ready for any challenge. He will never succeed even if he uses nuclear bombs against us. And I say the real terrorism is in America where the gang wars are a normal routine. People are being murdered and mutilated for property & money & women. Son is killing the father, daughter is killing the mother. Racism – Blacks are still the underprivileged class. They are being harassed. America is actually a racist nation and is boasting about democracy. We know what democracy is all about. We see it. It is nothing but a beautiful carpet to cover up your filth. Instead of caring for our problems Bush should rather ponder about his own America where problems are unsurmountable. Americans shut their eyes and say it is too dark for anybody to see anything. But baby, we know everything. Listen everybody, despite being the most advanced country in the world, America is nothing but a stinking pile of steaming garbage. According to your UN statistics, America is the No.1 rapist country in the world. More than 90,000 cases of reported rapes take place in America. And experts say that this is only 50 % of the actual toll. This is the respect they give to their mothers & sisters & daughters. I wonder whether there are any virgins in America. And they say that we Muslims subjugate our women. They show a Taliban man beating his wife with a stick on TV with poor video quality. I sneer at them. We put our women on the highest throne of honour. Then they laugh at us by saying Why are we allowed to have four wives? I say we are allowed but not compelled. But it is your compulsion. You Americans, you are compelled to follow Islam because your statistics by American division of population say that there are about 5 million women more than men in America. If every man in America gets married, there will be 5 million women who can’t get husbands. And we know every man does not get married because your manpower is not upto mark. You have more than 50 million sodomites in your country. You call them gays. Another 50 million women can’t get husbands. And men are dying of smoking, drinking, accidents etc. And your prison population, 98% are men. Your problems are getting compounded. You say One man One wife? Now I see why your poor women are becoming Lesbians and prostitutes. And this problem is universal in all the Christian dominated countries. There are more than 40 million women in Christian countries more than men. Islam is their compulsion. More than 20 % of Americans commit incest with their mothers & sisters & daughters. I spit at such a country & such democracy. And the men have become freaks, mental freaks. Everytime I hear in the news, such n such woman was raped & ripped apart, such n such woman was raped & ripped apart in America. And the illegitimate children. You call them “bastards”. By the way “bastard” is not a vulgar term. It is used three times in the Bible – “The book of God”. Some experts say that “more than 60 % Americans are “bastards” – i.e. the result of either pre marital sex or adultery or incest.” Woooh, I almost lost my senses. And drug addiction – that’s your passion. And alcoholism – beyond all limits. We muslims, I can boast, is the biggest community of teetotalers in the world. And your AIDS. Its like an epidemic in America. I suggest to all the people, when you go to America, keep your noses covered. Your pornography, adultery, discos & dances, fornication …. I can go on & on. And finally, the love that you shower upon your unripe children by molesting then – One of the biggest sins. The heart of a child is like a butter paper – it quivers very fast. Their soul is very pure & their mind is very innocent. And you play with their innocence? How can you do that? Please don’t look at them with a devilish eye. Please don’t play with their chastity.

    I used America as a prototype to describe a typical democracy. Individual freedom is there, but this freedom very often makes the weak a social & political slave. Democracy is only for those who understand it & play games with it. If democracy cannot save the chastity of its people, then hell with such a democracy. We muslims may not be economically advanced or have a great infrastructure, but Islam gives us a system where we can enjoy social & political freedom & protection at the cost of a small amount of individual freedom. Our moral values are still intact & that is our criteria of development which makes America the most under-developed country in the world.

    Imraan Sheykh
    Kashmir

  • Rudy

    Imraan, you and terrorists like you are the reason islam is called a cult. that and the very fact that it IS a cult. You are willing to lay down your life. WHAT A COINCIDENCE!! We have the means to take it.

    Those women you hear about being raped, a lot of that is done by muslims who cannot get laid without forcing themselves on someone. You know it, I know it. I frequently hear from teachers working in schools in muslim countries who catch their male students poking each other inbetween the buttox. I also love how I read in the Khaleej Times about pakistani/indian/bangladeshi muslims being arrested for having sex with camels. Oh and also the revelations from people who leave islam, that the imams in many madrassas encourage the male students to sodomize each other, since muhammad says it is acceptable. And you also neglect to mention that the number one searched topic on google and yahoo in the middle east is sex. Followed by sodomy.

    With regards to prostitutes, I cannot go to a single bar in Dubai, Doha, Amman, or Beirut without being approached and offered sex for money.

    As for putting your women on a pedestal, what pedestal is it that Sarah and Amina Said, Aqsa Parvez (who were killed in the US and Canada, respectively), and the thousands of others who are honor killed by their families in the name of islam?

    You then have the temerity to talk about the innocence of children’s hearts, while palestinian terrorist tv shows them lies about Jews placing children in ovens, and a rabbit who claims martyrdom is their sacred duty.

    And you call US hypocrites? You truly are an inbred, ignorant, useless waste of human DNA.

    Please take your taqiyya and your lunatic muslim rant and go detonate yourself somewhere. Preferably a mosque.

  • Storm-Rider

    Emran,

    America is not a perfect nation, and we’ve never claimed to be. America is a nation conceived in God-given liberty – a nation where it has been declared by our founding fathers to recognize that all people are created equal and that our sacred and irreversible individual human rights come from the God of the Bible – not from the government. Our declared God-given human rights include life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    So, you and your anti-American terrorist/Islamist friends can complain all you want about the United States; but at the end of the day you are just a liar, and you hate us because we have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    Evil is difficult to define, but we know that it often occurs when people hate and divorce themselves from God – and we have identified the tools of evil: Lies, hatred of goodness, and violence which is not in self-defense. You are a liar, you hate our God-given liberty, and you admit to being a terrorist. So, Emran, you are possessed by evil. I hate evil.

    We Americans know how to defend our God-given life and liberty.

  • why you care

    ya is soooooooooooooooooo wrong!!! one day ya’all shall see the truth.. islam is right islam is the light follow and u’ll win, deny and u shall see the results.
    obey allah for he is only one. follow his messengers 4 they kno what u did not.
    u are warned.

  • Kal

    Yeah sure, islam is the light, for those who seek justification for hate, pedophelia and mysoginy. As for results, let us see, infidels destroyed the caliphate in the 13th century (YAY for Ghengis Khan and The Mongol Horde, I wish they still were around), turned back muslims at Vienna in 1683, crushed the Berbers in the 1790’s (America’s first taste of jihad from muslims) , RECLAIMED Israel in 1948, and withstood 60 years of dumbass muslim armies attempting to destroy it and failing, CRUSHED Iraq in 1991, bobmed the Taliban into the caves they have hidden in the past 7 years, and overran Iraq again in 2003. Yeah those are some great results for muslims. Oh wait, that was a heavily biased rant. Your muslim brothers DID succeed in turning Lebanon into hell on earth, and when provoking Israel in 2006, got 1700 Lebanese killed, because muslims (this time Hizbullah) hide like bitches, among civilians and fire rockets from houses full of kids, just like the muslims running Hamas. Oh and let us not forget the sunni vs shia sectarian fighting in Iraq, where muslims succeded in killing 84000 Iraqi muslims. That is some fine jihad work there, Lou…

  • Frances

    Imraan Sheykh

    You are obviously biting off your fingertips in rage! It is doubtful, if you are actually living in Kashmir. But then, for all its faults, life is so much better in the West, you are even free to criticize and vent your hatred on its freedoms and prosperity, so unlike anything on offer in the Islamic world. 

    Why on earth would you be “wondering if there are any virgins in America”? You are obviously a sexually repressed and immature man/woman, so I suggest, you get laid, but I doubt if you would be successful on finding, much less  maintaining a relationship with an educated, free or mature woman/man anywhere, least of all in the USA.  So dream on, no harm there, although it must  be a very sad and frustrating state of affairs for you!

    Oh dear, oh dear, you mentioned, Ahmet Deedat, verily, verily I say on to you, but it would seem, that you are so easily taken in and gullible, into the bargain. Mr Deedah, God rest his soul, was so very entertaining, but such a dreadful fake, apparently he made a fortune from his videos, all made in Birmingham in the UK!

  • http://tangentspace.net/cz Alex

    Thanks for the paranoia. But how exactly do you propose to stall this Islamic conspiracy, without going against our democratic principles?

  • jennyjen

    To the Camel fuckin, Inbred, Pedophile worshiping assholes who think they have the testicular fortitude to take down this country-Bring It, quit hiding behind your sorry ass religion and screaming for your right to practice it in GODS country! Bring It, quit hiding behind civilians to launch your grenades! Bring It, quit targeting women and children and get off the porch to play with the big dogs! Bring It, Because the moment you do, the United States will exterminate you cockaroaches and send you straight to HELL!
    I’m sure you will find plenty of virgins there, you sacrificed them as suicide bombers! Have fun getting eff’d in the A haha!
    Oh, and my boy Matt will be landing in Iraq today…pray to Allah you don’t cross the path of his AK, I’ll pray to GOD that you do and he gives Matt the strength to blow your fuckin head off and hold his head high for doing so. That’s a fuckin HERO!

  • Tonto (USA)

    Emron, you are a liar.  There is no such thing as open dialogue with muslims.  The “challenge” of open dialogue with muslims is staying alive when one brings up “insulting” or when someone “disrespects” the so-called prophet.  To me there can be no dialogue without muslims facing the truth that their prophet is viewed with disgust outside the ummah, and islam is viewed as a false, moon-god, religion of dubious and false origins.  No dialogue is possible when every question, every opposite viewpoint, every less that ass suckingly deferential view the opposite may have is met with violently derogatory and abusive language, or just violence.  I’m not islamophobic.  I don’t fear islam.  Islam should fear itself.  I’m not a bigot.  I just think muslims are idiots for being muslim.  I feel sorry that they are not allowed access to the information about islam available in the outside world, and are not allowed to make a decision to accept or reject islam on their own. I feel sorry for them in their stupidity.  I feel sorry for the women who are subjected to the insanity of islam, and the society that represses them.  I feel sorry for the kids that are raised in an insane and backward society that puts each of them at a disadvantage with the rest of the world and sentences them to ignorance and poverty.  I feel sorry for suicide bombers that are so depressed and insane that they feel the only way to an improvement in their lives is to blow up themselves while killing innocents around them.  I feel bad about the instructions they get in their schools and on their TV programs encouraging death, destruction and war.  I feel sorry that the shaping they undergo in their islamifanatic society makes them unsuitable to congregate with sane and civilized people.
    Everything I have heard about islam disgusts me and makes me sad.  I have read the koran and the hadiths.  Thet were the sorriest excuses for a literary work I ever saw.  They were full of exhalting in murder, sodomy, rape, robbery and falsehood.  Pure garbage (some of it was directly plagiarized from other sources), just like the pedophile prophet, who’s only “prophecy” was which little kiddie and/or slave he was going to screw each night.  Another sad fact is that any other form or books of other religions are forbidden in islamic areas to keep muslims from questioning islam.  That’s how much islam fears truth or questions.  Even the Internet is being “filtered” now in islam dominated areas because they FEAR truth and discussion.  So slap your head on the floor for your moon-god, and be happy.  Ain’t no United States Marines in the Kashmir for you to piss your pants in fear over………yet.  I invite you NOT to come to the USA.  We don’t need the kind of shit you have in your life.  You can keep it.  The farther from here, the better.  I don’t like how islam makes me feel.  I don’t like the urges I get when I hear of violence against innocents.  I don’t like what I feel when I hear some rag head talking shit like you do.  So stay home.  Please.  Or better yet, go blow yourself up at a mosque and collect your allotment of virgins.  I hope they’re all boys.
      

  • jennyjen

    Put one on the board for Tonto- that is a truly beautiful comment! Couldn’t have said it better pimpin!

  • vinny

    lmao is funny how people speak about muslims claiming that we are intolerant. now any man that has his 5 senses working properly can see according to these replies who is intolerant muslims or the rest. we are ready anytime for debate and if anyone here has the guts i will be more than happy to book the city college theater in new york for them to show us their knowledge and present their case. u can bring anyone u want along with u. that includes ur priest and fagg friends. and statistics don’t lie. u might want to check them up and see wat values america has. i laught at ur values. and make no mistake i am from europe and i was christian but fortunately for me i embraced islam. for every muslim that becomes christian 10 christians become muslim. statistics in europe tell us that. And no matter what u do meaning by blowing with ur mouth, with ur tv, radio, books, newspapers ,internet to try to wipe islam out u will never succed because Allah(p.b.u.h) will perfect his light.

  • jennyjen

    Vinny, I don’t travel to New York. I have a buddy with a pig farm, I bet he’d let us use the yard rent free, may even get some BBQ ribs out of it. Fleas be upon you.

  • vinny

    like i said the only way u can debate is by following conjecture. i dont pay for the hall either as i am president of the student government. i use ur tax payer money to propagate islam. as for u jennyjen stay at ur farm city is not for u . ur brain can not  handle the city. that might be cause of the swine u eat. sure pig is very tasty for u cause it eats its own shit like u do. u and pigs have something in comon. i take of my hat to u cause u at least admit wat u are as for some others here do not even have enough guts to come out of their hidding places and speak up. That might be cause they are ashamed of wat they are. but u dont have that problem u are brave and shameless enought to admit wat u are.
      good job farm boy a friendly advise dont mess with the city boys on a debate cause u are at a sure loss.

  • vinny

    like i said the only way u can debate is by following conjecture. i dont pay for the hall either as i am president of the student government. i use ur tax payer money to propagate islam. as for u jennyjen stay at ur farm city is not for u . ur brain can not  handle the city. that might be cause of the swine u eat. sure pig is very tasty for u cause it eats its own shit like u do. u and pigs have something in comon. i take of my hat to u cause u at least admit wat u are as for some others here do not even have enough guts to come out of their hidding places and speak up. That might be cause they are ashamed of wat they are. but u dont have that problem u are brave and shameless enought to admit wat u are.
      good job farm boy a friendly advise dont mess with the city boys on a debate cause u are at a sure loss.

  • vinny

    as for u tonto i have about 100 videos of shaikh Ahmet Deedat,Khalid Yasin, jamal Badawi, Zakir Naik vs ur missionaries and doctors and priests. just because u say someone is lying that does not make it a lie. u are lying and i prove it to u. only Ahmet deedat send more than 5 telegrams and 3 letters to his holyness the pope to have a televised dialoge and they never replied. let me remind u of the pwnage that jimmy swaggart took by shaikh ahmet deedat. so this more than proves than we are open for dialoge and proves u a liar. and if u christian let me remind u the comandament thou shell not lie.
       if ur not a christian than i wont even waste my time with u cause u have no values or rules in life  and ur not worth my time.
       as for the terrorrist part i say u americans are much better terrorrist than we are. remember hiroshima and nakasaki. remember vietnam. remember the philippines , and remember ur slavery and ur ongoing racism. do u want more, i say u surely have beaten us in the race for who is the best terrorrist.
    u should be ashamed of ur history and wat gives a right to a murderer to call sone else a murderer. wat gives the right to a thief to call someone else a thief?
      u are the terrorrists and u got wat was coming to you. You got a taste of ur own medicine. tell me how does it taste. i am pretty sure it’s sour but yet wat would you know the only thing u know is wat they tell u. the only thing u know is wat bbc says. ur pittyfull man , controlled by the tirany of the modern era. get a decent education and dont just get a one sided opinion but rather look at all the facts and then come out here and debate.
     for yet who am i to tell wat to do u are a man of ur own and u are smart enough to distinguish the truth from the lies. or are u? how can u tell the truth from the lies when u only hear the lies?
    plz get ur facts straight and then come and talk to me.
    and dont use ur pathetic american way of dealing with things. which is when u get cornered u just use the word (Fuck you).
      if u do u just making my job easier. i dont need anything else to prove my case.

  • Chris

    Vinny you might want to put down the Koran and learn English before you post.

    No non-Muslim should tolerate the intolerance of Islam.  Muslims are constantly telling non-Muslims how to live and not the other way around.
  • vinny

    country is the one that invaded afganistan and iraq and making secret plans to attack iran and the other surrounding islamic countries. if u have a little knowledge of history you would know that the taliban are fighting the marines with armament that was provided to them by the us govenment during the war against Russia. And we are the ones attacking you. why did they attack iraq? everyone knows but yet you seem not to know Mr. chris . And you claim that we are the intolerant ones. you are killing our women and children and showing them the path to hell with pornography, fornication adultery, gambling, drinking, homosexuallity, club dancing , drugs ect. And than u have the nerve to say that we are telling you what to do when you are the ones teaching our childrens all this filth. tell me where is the wrong teaching of islam. perhaps when we say don’t drink and gamble, or maybe when we say fornication and adultery are evil, or perhaps when we say dont dance dont wear skirts don’t lie with the same sex. Which of these teachings are wrong. i dare you find any teaching of the qur’an that is wrong or evil. just one teaching show me one and will reject islam and turn to any religion u wish to turn me to.

  • Chris

    Vinny you are a fool who I will not waste my time going in circles with. You are only here to try and take the focus off of Islam, that will not happen. I have also read the Koran and I will say what ever I want about it. It is called freedom of speech.

    Verse 9 29 shows the intolerance of Islam as translated by Islamic scholar Yusuf Ali so save the con and the persecution of non-Muslims across the Islamic world shows the intolerance.
    Goodbye.
  • Chris
    Ayatollah Khomeini

    Khomeini accordingly delivered notorious rebuke to the Islam-is-a-religion-of-peace crowd: “Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]…. Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Qur’anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.” 

  • Chris

    Alex,

      Why don’t you prove it all to be paranoia? The Middle East was not Islamic overnight and now they have taken over large parts of Europe. The threat is real.
  • Chris

    Dialogue with Muslims is just a waste of time as nothing gets better for non-Muslims under Islam. Vinny needs to figure out that we do not care if we have his approval or not, we will continue forward.

  • Joan

    Jennyjen,
    I am shocked at such language, and even more shocked i agree.
    The Muslims should maybe get the message they are not wanted, and go back home, before they are despatched back in a rocket.
    Joan

  • Chris

    All this thread shows is that Muslims and non-Muslims do not see the world the same. So Muslims should move to Islamic countries, maybe they will be happier there.

  • Joan

    Muslims want to take over the world. They act like savages and are not fit to be in the civilised west. As Jenny says all they really understand is to be told to piss off. They act like a set of pigs tits.

    Joan

  • jennyjen

    Vinny, so your president of the student government, so that makes you hot shit now?? I think it makes you a punk living off taxes and how the hell can you be of any significance with your terrible spelling. If that’s the education you get in NYC then hells yeah I’ll stand by my Arkansas State degree all day every day. Go drink some camel piss, maybe it will make you smarter and if you ever need a real education, come holla at this bitch. I’ll tell you how the cow ate the cabbage son!

    Joan, thanks for the compliment, I get a little pissed when assholes tell me my country is going down at the hands of Islam.  I’m proud to be an American and country, some people think that makes me stupid but I don’t care.  I love to be underestimated. :)

  • Joan

    I t looks like Vinny has a case of superior Allah syndrome. Muslims are tolerant and we are not etc,etc If all that is going on in America, and it is so bad, the people so disgusting then why are you in such a place ? If I felt like that I would be on the next plane out back home. Are you being kept there against your will ? Are you in the UK being held ?
    will you give details so we can make it public so you can return to your perfect land of peace and light.
     
     
    Joan
     

  • Joan

    Jenny,
    No one has gone down yet, neither yours nor mine. You will learn from us.
    They will al get repatriated when things get too bad, there is no other way, stop them coming in and send those back who are here.
    If we tell them nicely to leave they will go. They just need to understand that they are not wanted.

    Joan

  • jennyjen

    Joan, superior Allah syndrome- LMAO!! Thats great and I hope they will leave if asked nicely but I don’t think they’ll leave without a fight. They enjoy the freedoms of the UK and US but bitch about the same freedoms when others enjoy them. They are given the freedom to practice Islam in our countries but we would not be free to practice ours in Saudi, Iran, Pakistan etc. We would quickly lose our heads and I like my head, we are quite attached to each other. And all the ranting about prostitutes, gambling, drugs and alcohol, if you don’t like it, don’t do it but don’t tell me I can’t lose my money at the slot machine while sippin a Crown and Coke. That’s between me and God, I don’t need a Muslim worrying about the condition of my soul.

  • Joan

    Never mind your soul, concerning your body and survival, i have given you some information on the Invasion of America by 2020 thread.

    Joan

  • jennyjen

    Joan, I’m well armed, I just bought a street-sweeper last week for my personal arsenal. I could probably arm a small Caribbean island with what I have in my 2 bedroom apartment. My best friend has a pretty good size arsenal as well, she has gas masks, grenades and launchers and every semi-automatic weapon that’s been sold in the past 30 years. We’ve decided to meet there and then head for the hills if shit hits the fan, got a cabin on high ground with parameter set up. We ain’t bullshittin around down here, I wish the rest of the world would realize the true threat.

  • Joan

    we in the UK are armed also, not me personally but on the whole.
    Everyone thinks the UK are not and i always say, yes we are, the UK is flooded with illegal weapons mainly from Russia. So we are armed and ready, are cupboards are full of emergency supplies and that is it when the SHTF I will be ready and so will the rest of us.
    The realisation will come when they release a deadly attack, then we will have civil war.

    Joan

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  • Tanzila

    you hav so much to say agnst islam bt tell me this, hw can yu judge sumthin wen yu hav no understanding of it.
    islam is the religion of peace tho mny ppl fail to understand this.

    ok tell me this, if it is wrng thn y is it the fastest growing religiom in the wrld
    ok frgt tht bt tell me thn about yur religion?

    hu is it tht yu wrship?do yu give mney to the poor?does yur religion tell yu to do so?
    are yu instructed to be good to the woman, children and respect yur parents?
    in wat manner do yu tlk to thm or do yu hav no care?
    is tht hw yu live yur life?
    with no guide?no purpose?

    yu go out today, drink a few beers, dance, hav a good tym bt wen yu gt hme yu r not at peace,
    yu cfrave fr a beer, (poison)so tht yu may fgt yur stress hwever it dsnt go away ?

    ok expln to me this thn, evything tht has scientifically bn proven has aready bn mentioned in the quran
    islam teaches us to respect one and other, wthr thy be muslim or not!

    it teaches us to forgive and so be at real peace, fullfiling duties as a muslim builds up to good character

    it is not like those hu do sumthin today and begin the sme thng tmrw

    wat does yur religion teach yu

    ok tell me this in christianity a nun has to stay a virgin her hl life?so she has no children, well thn hw can yu say tht God has a son?
    bcoz tht in itslf implies tht God is impure?
    or expln to me y yu go according to the new bible tht has bn modified by yur ppl?
    yu dnt go according to the bible tht yur God has sent, yu hav chngd it for yur benefit?

    answer this and i wil not question yu agen

  • Tanzila

    see thts the thing myn of us muslimsm fail to do wat we are mant to just as the christains or jews do.
    this is y watching the examples may mk yu be agnst islam
    hwever islam is not bwt hte, it teaches us to fgv
    now becoz mny muslims just as jews or christians fail to foolow er religion as thy shud, islam is givn a bad nme
    bt bfr yu go agnst it
    read the quran
    m not asking fr yu to become a muslim, im asking fr yu to understnd it
    and not by the ppl hu say thy r muslims
    undrstnd it by the book tht we r ment to follow and yul c tht is abwt fgvness n respecting ppl wth thy r muslim or not

  • Tanzila

    ok well if islam is so bad then y yu tlkin about it so much?
    and y r yu critisizin wat yu dnt evn undrstnd?
    hw mny sins as a christian do yu commit?
    in the sme way muslims, jews all do the sme. we do not folllow our religion purely
    so do not judge islam by the actions of the muslims.
    i cud say christianity is bad fr wat christians do but tht is wrng
    bcoz i cnt judge a religion by its followers actions, every religion shud be judged by its books and commandnebts.
    neither muslims nor christians follow er religion purely so bfr sayn anythin agnst my religion yu shud go read the quran and go read yur bible
    and thn aftr yu undrstnd it thnyu may cum to yur conclusion

  • Tanzila

    ppl just dnt get ok
    ok if islam is so bad expln y it teaches us to fgv or y it teaches us to respect one another,
    wthr muslim or not,
    well thn hw mny tyms do yu pray?
    in yur religion hw much of it do yu follow?
    or do yu run aruond like lost sheep each day doin the sm thing bt not knwing where yur goin?
    ok if my religion is bad thn y do yu follow a book tht yu yurslvs hav chngd and thn claim tht it is fm God?

    or ok tell me one thing yeh?
    a nun has to remian a virgin her hle life?
    thts so tht she can be pure ryt?so shed hav no husband n no children n die alone?
    well thn hw cum yu say God has a son?bcoz wdnt tht mean yur sayin tht God is impure?
    if GOd has a son thn whes his wyf?or does he not hav one?
    BT thn yu christians also say yu hav to wait till yur married to hav sex?
    so wdnt yu ba saying tht God has sinned?

    oww thts not good

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  • Severus_Snape

    Tanzila,

    Kindly do not write in text speak as not everybody who reads this site is a native english speaker. If this is how you were taught in your school then try to lessen it by 99% and add some logic too.

    cheers

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  • SirWilhelm

    Islam teaches forgivness for Muslims, not for infidels. Islam shows respect for infidels by taxing them when it can, they even have a name for it, shizya.

    Having to take time out to pray 5 times a day doesn't make you a better person, just a better Muslim, and interrupting your work day makes you less productive btw.

    I don't follow any religion, but I still know right from wrong, can't you figure it out for yourself? When in doubt, obey the law of the land.

    I don't need Allah, the Quran or an iman to tell me how to live my life, thanks anyway.

    There are many good books that teach morals and ethics, the Bible and the Quran are just two of them. There seem to be just as many good and bad people no matter what religion they say they follow, but the bad people in Islam are certainly the most visible these days.

    Nuns choose to remain virgins, no one forces them.

    Jesus was supposedly born to a virgin, a virgin = no sex, get it? Or do you need a picture drawn for you? The point is that only God can get a woman pregnant without sex, and remain pure, that's a miracle, at least it was in Biblical times. Today, you could have a son through artifical insemination, and you don't have to be married, isn't that miraculous?

    No, you can't make God out as a sinner by your implications, but then, I don't believe he needed supernatural powers to create a virgin birth, either. And Allah might not need supernatural powers to make Mohammed his profit either, but he did need someone named Gabriel to do the dirty work for him, for some reason he didn't want to appear to Mohammed in person, strange, isn't that?

    No, your writing is terrible, and your reasoning sucks too, anymore questions?

  • Tanzila

    well then let me try this again in the manner that your brain or lack of, may register!

    For me to become a christian it would be necessary that I understand the religion.

    So I am kindly requesting for you to answer a few questions.

    The reason for a nun to remain a virgin her whole life is that she may remain pure?
    As a christian I am also to believ that God, and Jesus are pure?

    Fare and fine, however if God then has a son, Jesus, then who is his wife?
    If he does not have a wife then he has committed an impure act?

    So in other words as a christian I am to believe that God is impure?

    In addition to this, how am i to follow the bible which has been edited by the christains and then claimed it has been sent from God?

    Also does christianity not teach us about having respect for everyone whether christain or not?
    Islam teaches this!

    As you are a good christian you would kindly answer these questions due to the fact that I may be a potential convert.

  • JEWHAWK

    WASH YOUR DAMN MOUTH WHEN YOU SPEAK GOD'S NAME,
    YOU FILTHY MUSLIM !!

    The muslim orcs don't believe in God, but SATAN.

    The comparison you've made between Christianism to Islam is LAUGHABLE.

    Drop dead, you muslim virus.

  • Kal_El

    Actually I DO get it. I lived in he ummah for 6 years. So islam teaches us to forgive and respect one another? Then why the constant attacks on Israel, the US, Europe, Africa, etc… over the past thousand years? Why the constant marauding expansion of the faith by the sword over the past thousand years? Why the thousands of honor killings in just the past twelve months, all in the name of islam?

    What business is it of yours how often I pray or how much of any religion I follow? I don't see Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Pagans, Animists or Wiccans blwoing themselves up calling out the name of their respective deity, or flying airplanes into buildings, kidnapping people and beheading them on video, raping little girls and forcing them to convert to islam, or constantly attacking civilians (Madrid on 3/11/2004, London on 7/7/05, New York on 9/11/01, Bali in 2002, etc…). All I see are muslims doing those things, in the name of the pedophile Muhammad and his imaginary moon god Allah.

    You should learn how to type properly, and maybe people will take your arguments a bit more seriously.

  • Solkhar

    Hey SirW, Three points on some comment you make, not to have a go at you but to get things a bit more correct:

    “Islam teaches forgivness for Muslims, not for infidels. Islam shows respect for infidels by taxing them when it can, they even have a name for it, shizya.”

    Islam does not “tax infidels”, that was a decision at the time for how to run a government and dealing with other commiunities, since then it has been until only a few centuries ago, a political choice. Taxing non-believers was done by many religions, Byzantium was the one that started the “mellah” concept of taxing Jews in salt, as I put in another thread, the Dutch taxed Jews a crippling amount which they called a “crucifixion tax” to avoid them investing into the East Indies company. There is no current Muslim government that taxes non-Muslims. Jizya, taqiyya and the like are all words used by westerners in their imaginary misguided view of what Muslims are and what Islams do.

    “Having to take time out to pray 5 times a day doesn't make you a better person, just a better Muslim, and interrupting your work day makes you less productive btw.”

    Yes and No. I absolutely agree with you, praying Five times a day does not automatically make you a better person. I know very good Muslims whom I respect, admire and would trust my life and my family with but do not do their five prayers and certainly there are those that do the prayers that need to be aprehended and sentenced to death for unspeakable crimes. You are incorrect about your assertions that praying five times a day wastes time and makes for less efficient work. It can be viewed in two fashions that non-Muslims are unaware of and even some Muslims forget. The first is that “work is prayer” according to Mohammed in the Qur'an. That it is haram to stop your work if it is important or time-critical for prayers and that God will disregard that prayer. Thus, security guards, doctors, firemen do not forget their duties because of the call to prayer. You can catch-up your prayers later. The second point is that many jobs need a break and going and refreshing yourself spiritually by praying and simply getting up out of that chair then going back to work is often a good thing.

    “Jesus was supposedly born to a virgin, a virgin = no sex, get it? Or do you need a picture drawn for you? The point is that only God can get a woman pregnant without sex, and remain pure, that's a miracle, at least it was in Biblical times”. Muslims believe in the miracaleous conception of Jesus as well. Miriam (Mary) is considered the only non-Prophet to have been blessed by a personal visit from Angels to tell her that God chose her to have Issa (Jesus) and that the Prophet Jesus was, like the Prophet Adam “created from sand and will return to sand”.

    Just some clarifications for your future reference, this is in no way a support, condemnation or comment on the writings of that other poster.

    Cheers

  • Solkhar

    Chalk and cheese, your talking about the Islam you “think and want” it to be and certainly is not based on anything realistic. Your pretending to have understood or learnt anything with the claim of “living with the ummah for 6 years” is very evident.

    Your experiences in Kuwait or wherever during conflicts has nothing to do with anything except what you have witnessed during those events under those circumstances by those individuals and those communities, no more and no less.

    To go through your list:

    The constant attacks on Israel is Arab nationalism, just like conflicts in most places around the world are political and nationalism based. Past thousand years, oh, sorry forgot that all those wars in Europe between varying christian sects, the murdering of tens of thousands of Jews in the late 11th century by Crusader armies before they left for the Holy Land were all done by Muslims! Ir do you want to go more recent, WWII, Islam inspired? Rawandan genocide, Muslim inspired? Get the point, your rantings are just that.

    Marauding expansion of faith by the sword? That is the most laughable and perfect example of chosing histories for a purpose by agenda-inspired idiots. Islam spread just like all the other faiths, by the expansion of cultures normally through invasion, with conversions by force, by choice either for protection, economic reasons or simply to fit in. Invasions automatically instill cultures which attempt to eradicate the old and fit in the new.

    Honor Killings, – cultural and tribal habits as well as sexist-mechismo superiority. The base human nature is control. Honor killings also exist in the Ukraine, Serbia, Russia, India, Sri Lanka and most of Asia but when it is done by Muslims it is called honor-Killing and in other countries domestic violence gone bad. Yes those arsehole sexist Arabs and Turks claim it to be based on their religious principles and then the rest of the Muslims and the courts will disagree. There is a lot of argument to say that in fact the bulk of honor-killings is probably done in India more than any were else, certainly the highest amount of domestic violence is in . Go to any major credible anti-violence and honor-killing website and you will see that they all say it is global, endemic and cultural. In the west the husband just shoots his wife and kids and then himself and they call it sad.

    No, when Christians society starts wars and conflicts it is entitled as political and not religious for one very imple reason, Muslims use God's name for everything naturally, even when entering a room. Yes there are radical Muslims and terrorists and yes they are at war with the West and anyone standing in their way including other Muslims and yes they will claim God is on their side. If you allowed Pat Robinson and any other hard-line dominionists to dominate your society you would have the same problem.

    I do not agree with the above poster in many things, do not understand English at all when written like that, but rathe than tell that person to write properly, I suggest you get your own facts straight before you start assuming what “you want it to be” is anything like it really is.

  • Necrowulf

    Are you sure you are a “moderate” muslim?

  • Solkhar

    I am a sinast, thus I do not recognise the “indisputability” of the haddiths.
    I do not force my faith on others, condemn others for not being my faith nor do I prosthelitize.
    I support secular legal and government systems.
    I reject radicalism and what it stand for – forcing others to their views, agenda and ideals.
    I believe in the principles laid out in the Holy Qur'an and anything else if for me to judge, no one else.
    I believe that religion and faith is a personal thing and society's values are based on the collective of all those “individual moral standards” when collaborated through government.
    As a Muslim who believes in the Qur'an, I am obliged to support those values set within it, which are Abrahamic, thus valuing the concept westerners call the 10 commandments.
    As a Muslim, I believe that all good Jews and Christians will stand shoulder to shoulder with good Muslims at the Gates of Heaven on Judgement Day.
    As a Muslim, if I cannot eat halal, the next best option is Koshar.

    So tell me, am I a “moderate” Muslim?

  • Necrowulf

    So, what is your view on the non-christians or non-jews?

    Your actions so far does not support what you say.

  • Christine_S

    “Go to any major credible anti-violence and honor-killing website and you will see that they all say it is global, endemic and cultural”.

    Yes, this is happening all over the world thanks to overwhelming Muslim immigration. Look at the non-Muslim countries where “honor” murders happen, Solkhar. Who are the perpetrators? They are Muslims!! Global AND endemic??

    Visit this site:
    http://www.stophonourkillings.com/taxonomy/voca…

    Click on the US, UK, Switzerland, Norway, Spain… Let Muslims into any civilized country and they will bring their filthy, religion-inspired culture and traditions with them.

    “There is a lot of argument to say that in fact the bulk of honor-killings is probably done in India more than any were else”. By who? You?? You are full of it, Solkhar.

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  • GabrielS.

    Jenny, I agree with you. Party. Our leaders, the grandson f an American Nazi who participated in the Holocaust in Europe, President George Bush is a prime example of a fact we have not thought about. You know America is being ‘globalized’. America is no longer indpendent. We are just another state in a bigger, globaal, not ‘new’ world order. We’ve been beaten on that one, and there is nothing we can do about it here in America. Ok, but we’ve not thought of the fact that trash like George Bush, want America islamiciized to make the people into good ‘workers’ with no human rights. That’s why islam was invented by Arab leaders 1400 years ago. That is why Bush, like Clinton and Obama, flooded, and I do MEAN flooded Arabs into this country.

  • Gabriel

    Wanna know the evil dog’s view of all non-muslims? Want to know what all islam commandes muslims to do to all non-muslims, including if not especially Americans, their wives and children? Here, learn islam. I think its too late, but learsn it to try and save the lives of your loved ons in Arab occupied America that was given to the Arabs.

    From the evil, unholy qur’an that is the BIBLE muslims are to follow, or be killed,, surah 33:60, “Truly, if the Hypocrites (non-muslims, atheists, chrisians and Jews), those in whose hearts is a disease,… Whenever they are found, THEY SHALL BE SEIZED AND SLAIN without mercy—a fierce slaughter—MURDERED, a horrible murdering.

    From the evil, unholy qur’an, surah 5.33, “THEY (Non-muslims, atheists, chrisians and Jews especially) SHOULD BE MURDERED OR CRUCIFIED OR THEIR HANDS AND THEIR FEET SHOULD BE CUT OFF on opposite sides…”

    From the evil, unholy qur’an, surah 2.191 And MURDER THEM (non-muslims, chrisians and Jews especially) WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, … MURDER THEM….”

    surah 9 : 111 Allah hath purchased of the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of paradise aka the fires of hell): they FIGHT in HIS CAUSE, and KILL and they are KILLED :

    The evil, unholy trash we call quran says, “And KILL THEM (non-muslims) wherever you find them…”

    From the evil, unholy qur’an, surah 4.89 They (non-muslims, atheists) desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in allah’s way; but if they turn back, then SEIZE THEM AND MURDER THEM WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM…

    This is the koran, the bible of muslims. It is their religion’s writings and command, that you kill all non-muslims, especially Jews and chrisians. This is what an enemy of America, the grandson of a Nazi who participated in the Holocauste in Europe in World War II, the President of America George Bush, said is peaceful. He flooeded islamic terrorists int America to change America. To make the people America, into slaes of buisnesses. That is what the Arabs invented islam for 1400 years ago, to make sure that Arabs had NO HUMAN RIGHTS. Human rights is, to the republican, the thing that destroyed their freedom to exploit the America they considered ‘their workers’. Islam, brought in to replace freedom in America, will do the oppoisite. It makes Americans the slaves of the evil gverment, who can be killed anytime they want. And do NOT get me wrong, I do not like the democrat party at all. They are iat least as responsible as the reepublican party. The republican party needs to be nixed, erased from America forever. A good patriotic American party needs to be created. A permanently patriotic American party. The Tea Party are great folks, but they are just the first. They are inexperienced, and they have no idea how easy it will be for Republicans to snake into their party, and destroy it as they destroyed the republican party. The same is true of democrats. Both parties has professional politicians to whom America is nothing more then a word they can bandy around nicely. All while they destroy it, for their personal gain.

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    I have seen this first hand in the Valparaiso University.
    I have seen them infiltrating the Consortium of CivilRights Workers,
    In my shul a woman yelled at me because I told the truth about the murderous violence of Muslims against Jews 
    in the west Jordan and the kidnapping of Gilad Shalit.
    America is being infected with the sharia and we must stop it or it will eat us alive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Sandyjohn57 Sandra Johnson

    Hatred is not the answer, we must use objective informed resistance. stop their convergence.
    Only stealth and Torah wisdom will defeat this enemy.we must stop funding the education of our countries enemies,We must stop funding their war machines,and we must do it now!

  • JEWHAWK

    No, Sandra, the Torah’s wisdom WON’T suffice to defeat the kuranimals . The trully first and most important step to do it is to convince the leftwing establishment that Islam represents evil, something that plots western civilization’s demise.

    Without their awareness of this iminent danger, we are screwed.

  • Leza Chezem

      Dear Anyone… I am being attacked by a telepathic “microwave (?)” weapon. It stings, pulses, thought-interactively speaks in cartoonlike voices, and makes one humiliated by articulating muscles by transmitted electrical-charges in sexual “self” “rape”.  It acts like it reads both the electrical activity of the brain, and body, and the “food”-utilization of the brain,  and pattern-matches this rapidly.  It transmits that it is a robot, and that it is ISLAMIC. It has hit me for over 40 years, I guess, and screeches that it can TRAVEL IN TIME.  It “calls” me a “whore”, “bitch”, “jewelry-thief”, and property-thief.
      Anyone have any ideas what culture built this race-fixing brain-rotting (probable) White-slaver’s gun?
      It sure makes me hate Islam!
      Thank You… Leza Chezem, Denver, CO., USA.

  • Liberalswede31

    Guys seriously, what has muslims done to you, before the west sent armies to war against them? When had you ever had a muslim do something bad to you or your family?

  • Anonymous

    Seriously?

    mohammadams started attacking the United States in the 1700′s. Capturing merchant ships and either enslaving the crews or holding them for jizya (ransom). Thomas Jefferson attempted to negotiate with the barbaric scum ambassador of Tripoli who more or less told Jefferson it was their right to rape, enslave, and even murder any non-muslims as per their mein kuranmpf.

    The savages started in on the country you are currently squatting in, mohammadan, doing the same thing to Swedish merchant ships in the early 1800′s. Prior to that France had a special ransom force whose sole purpose was to negotiate for the release of captured sailors.

    Not to mention the islamic invasions of India, Byzantium, Egypt, Africa, Persia, etc, immediately following mo the putrid’s death.

    That the West did not and has not fully and with prejudice dealt with you assholes since day one (as they should have prior to 1095) either speaks to our stupidity or extreme tolerance. Unfortunately our one attempt to deal with you unevolved troglodytes was a spectacular failure (mostly because it was run by equally corrupt and religious nutbags) lasting nearly 200 years.

    Skip ahead to the 1960′s when the muslim supremacist brotherhood started saudi financially backed infiltration of the West by fomenting sedition and Saul Alinsky tactics in Western universities and politics.

    I could go on, but you get the gist you mohammadan git. Your aggression against the West is not a recent phenomena.

    And what have you turds done to my family and me? Every time some mohammadan asshole like you tries to shift the blame for your psychotic and murderous actions it is an affront to common sense and an attempt to get us to let our guard down. Every time one of you assholes tells us islam is a religion it is a slap in our face. Every time one of you primitives tells us islam is a religion of peace it is a punch in our face. Every time one of you racist bastards tell us all the threats, intimidation and jihad including litigation jihad, taqiya, tawriya and kitman jihad, and the most common violent, urderous jihad are due to “Western aggression” it is an evil, and cowardly act of bullies to place the blame on their victims.

    We’ve come to expect no less from you “liberal” mohammadan assholes.

  • Beejj

    Interesting comment, Liberalswede31. Your logic suggests that unless a member of a sect or political party or movement does something that directly affects me, I have no right or reason to make any judgement of that person or sect or political party or movement: I must harbour no opinion, for I was not directly involved. You are telling us that we must all wear blinkers. I must not weep bitter tears when I read about the deeds of Islamists in Somalia or Sudan or Egypt or Chad or ………. What an idiot you are! LIBERALswede indeed! No wonder you Swedish lowlifes sent Hitler all that iron ore during the war. Made a killing, didn’t you? Helped lots of killing, too.

  • hellosnackbar

    @ liberalswede,
    My daughter might have been on the tube train that was blown up by those Mohammedan cretins on7/7.
    Despite that the possibility that I would be affable towards murdering terrorists ,just because I was not personally involved ,demonstrates the obvious brain damage that you suffer from.

  • Allah Akbar

    :)

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