Honor Killing of wife and 3 kids "totally justified"

by Infidelesto on October 22, 2007 · 30 comments

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The despicable face of fundamental Islam. What are these Imam’s teaching their people? Do they have ANY idea what they are putting in these people’s heads?

This man murdered his wife and 3 children in what he called a “totally justified” honor killing.

A man who murdered his wife and three children in a so-called honour killing feels “totally justified in what he did”, police involved in the case say.

Rahan Arshad, 36, beat his family to death with a bat at their home in Turves Drive, Cheadle Hulme, Greater Manchester, in July 2006.arshad_honor_killing.jpg

He then fled, leaving their bodies to lie undiscovered for almost a month.

Det Supt Martin Bottomley said Arshad felt his wife brought the killing on herself by having an affair.

The full story behind the murders is the focus of a BBC documentary, Honour Kills, to be shown on BBC Three on Tuesday.

And this from the Koran regarding women: (4:34)

Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme.

and this reported from the BBC regarding the brutality and justification of the honor killings

“This is one of the most brutal and devastating murders I have ever dealt with.

“All of the officers who worked on this, including myself, have been affected by the depravity of this crime.

“Many of us have children, which makes the brutality he used to kill his own children even harder to comprehend.

What is even more horrifying is that we now know Arshad feels totally justified in what he did and believed that Uzma brought this on herself and her family through the shame of her affair.”

hattip: Eye On The World

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  • Robert B.

    A pity the UK did away with the “uncivilised” death penalty. I can think of no other form of punishment (death by the same means as he killed his family) that would be appropriate for this sub-human.

  • ERS

    Unfortunately, Mr. Arshad’s attitudes and beliefs are typical of “honor” killers.

    Ellen R. Sheeley, Author
    “Reclaiming Honor in Jordan”

  • Farah

    I don’t know what kind of Qur’an you’ve got that from, but in the REAL one that I read, it says, ‘Allah did not make the woman from the foot of a man to be below him, nor did he make her from the head to be above him. But he made her from the rib to be his equal’. Ask any abiding Muslim who doesn’t think backwards and they will tell you the same.

  • Infidelesto

    lol, too bad so many of your “brothers in Islam” disagree with you. Maybe you can lead the charge to reform Islam cause no one else will.

  • Farah

    I’m not going to lie to you, there are plenty of so-called Muslim men who are like that, however, like i said, a muslim man who is well educated and does right by Islam is not like that. I’m 21, engaged to a man that I love of my own choice and hey, my dad, uncles, cousins and so on have not killed me or my mother. Maybe it is now a good time to point out that I am Muslim but also half white from my mother’s side. As for “brother’s of Islam”, they hold no position in my faith as far as I’m concerned. What I would ask you to understand is that there are good and bad people in all walks of life, in all religions and in all cultures. People interperate religion the way they want to. Unfortunately, I cannot control the minds of others. It’s not Islam that is the problem, but the individuals that give us a bad name.

  • Infidelesto

    you’re right the problem is not Islam…the problem is that Islamic moderates are too afraid to reform their own religion. You seem to be one of them. I challenge you to quit worrying about us Infidels and worry more about reforming the evil of fundamental Islam that is fermenting and spawning all throughout Europe and the rest of the world. Only YOU can prevent radical fundamental Islam. You are the ones that need to reform it, not the infidels. Quit attacking infidel critics and start rooting out the evil ones at your local mosque. That would be a good start.

    • BradStorch

      Smokey the Bear encourages preventing radical Islamic fundamentalism?

      There is imbalance to the stance that Americans who would proclaim themselves “infidels” are victims whereas there are “evil ones” at “your local mosque(s).” The one suggests open defiance of a religion and the other declares its practitioners are nefarious and worse, close by. Quick, route out any Red Scum!

      To laugh at this quote from the Quran, coming from a practicing Muslim and challenge her to singlehandedly reform Islam…such rampant, unapologetic generalities and conjecture do not help the situation. She is defending the honor of women as it is represented in Islamic doctrine and community, her life…where does reforming it have anything to do with her or this article?

      As Americans, we respect the freedom of religion that is written into our Constitution and so cannot reject it when it actually confronts us with constructive assistance or self-representation.

      Further, as regards your home page: who in their right mind would practice religion in America with the intent to destroy or supplant the Constitution? How can you support freedom of speech for one end of the political spectrum whilst denouncing the other and labeling its proponents mentally-retarded? What is this “we’re the victim stance” from the world’s greatest superpower and–I’m sure you would agree with me–the greatest nation in the world?

      If we Americans are so fucking righteous, do something about it. Remember, only YOU can prevent radical fundamental Islam.

      My gripe is that this woman wasn’t “attacking” anyone–she was speaking up for herself, her community, and her religion. As an Islamic woman, engaged to be wed by her own choice I would think she could relate to this information much more than we could imagine and as such her response should receive the proper respect. In fact, she is an example of the very subject. That’s all. Peace.

      • SirWilhelm

        I would like to try and answer your question ” who in their right mind would practice religion in America with the intent to destroy or supplant the Constitution?” That would be Muslims, if you haven’t learned that for yourself in the 4 months since you posted this. Where Islam, and Muslims, dominate, they insist everyone live by sharia law. There is no democracy in that law, even in supposedly democratic Muslim countries, sharia law overules secular, especially in daily life, and culture. This man that killed his family felt justified because sharia law condones such acts, which is why they are part of his culture, no matter where he lives. English secular law meant nothing to him, even though he and his fellow Muslims are still a minority there. The rights of the woman and children under English law didn’t help them either, did it? I am trying to do something about it, by educating you to the threat you didn’t recognze. Do you see it now?

  • Farah

    There aren’t any in the mosques I attend. The ones that were there aren’t allowed to worship there anymore because of their beliefs. You’re asking me to reform a religion that is spread across the world. You try doing what you believe i should be with Americans or a sect of your community and see how difficult it is. I only stubbled across this website because I was doing research on honour killings. I saw this article and saw a statement that was untrue so I wanted to put it right. I didn’t write on here to critisize anyone. I just wanted to correct the statement so that maybe people would think twice about what they thought before about Islam. People do the most stupidest things in the name of religion. It’s not just Muslims. Hitler is a great example. My mother is a Christian and she told me about when she went to church as a child. Years later, the scandel broke out that the vicar was sexually abusing the young boys that attended that church. I wish I could right the wrongs that go on in my religion and make people think like me. I wish I could stop things like this happening in the whole world. But I can’t. I am one tiny person. And I’m sure you’d love to stop everything that you think is wrong, but you’re one tiny person too.

    • Isahiah62

      read a history book while you research —HITLER did not kill for his religion nor justify it from same— he like most socialists found religion a thing to be abolished- Christianity openly conflicted with his ideas and he wished to remove it fomr his jew-free utopia–
      HE was an occultist who openly admired ISLAM b/c it was easier to get people to kill using religion than nationalistic fervor or personal magnetism. He got his best ideas from the Mufti of Jerusalem (Arafat's unlce) who was building his own gas chanbers to enjoy the final solution.
      I love the MUSLIMS always tell us we are ignorant of Ithe “true” ISLAM and that we need to “study” yet prove everyday they are totally ignorant of world history or just make up 'facts”

    • Isaiah4310

      This is true. It is written in quran that its justified that men can beat their family if necessary. If fathers thought that it is the right thing to do. Read http://quran.com/4/34.

      My father is a converted muslim and he changed a lot. If before he hesitates killing us if we do something wrong, now he said HE CAN NOW KILL US, since it is written in the quran.

      I’m really sad that kind-hearted muslims like Farah is still a muslim. To Farah, do a research and compare Muhammad and Jesus, you’ll see a striking difference. Jesus set the example for all of us to love each other, to forgive others and even, to love our enemies, not kill them. He have never harmed any human being all his entire life!

      Muhammad killed many people who refused to accept his teachings, he fought many wars, he even killed a woman who attempted to poison him. I suppose you know that already. The main point in islam is for muslims to not believe that Jesus is the son of God. Quran disproves this VERY important claim. In the Bible you can read “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Islam removes the love from the hearts of all muslim people.

      There is no love if you can’t forgive. There is no human sin that is unforgivable in the eyes of God, as long as we ask for fogiveness. If allah is merciful, it is a conflict that he allows men to beat and even kill their own family if the did something bad.

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  • Al

    isnt it the local council who had the right to beat them to death, chances are it was the councils wealth that was maintaining them all.

  • Paladin

    The Koran justifies honor killing, as do authoritative versions of sharia. This is only one example – there are many others – of why Islam is totally unacceptable in the modern world and must either reform itself or be discarded. It is time Muslims examined their own laws and traditions with a critical eye, investigated the actual – as opposed to the mythical – origins of the Koran, and used reason and logic to determine which parts of the Koranic tradition deserve to be respected in the 21rst Century.

    • Kal_El

      That cannot happen, as islam demands death for any who question, even with the best intentions, the quran. Muslims just don’t care, they believe (as they have been brainwashed since birth) that islam is the solution to everything, despite every muslim country being a third world festering lesion on the face of the earth.

    • SirWilhelm

      “It is time Muslims examined their own laws and and traditions with a critical eye”? They’ve had around 1400 years to do that, what makes you think now is the time? And “investigated the actual-as opposed to the mythical-origins of the Koran”? What “actual” origins? And what do reason and logic have to do with faith? In all religions, people use their faith to justify living by the laws and rules their religion teaches. In Islam, the religious disguise justifies their use of sharia in the same way. The difference is, sharia law is expected to supplant all law, even secular law. Sharia law determines what traditions have to be respected, and it’s been that way for circa 1400 years in Muslim dominated countries, even those supposedly run by secular law. Sharia combines religious and politcal law under the authority of the Koran and Allah, and keeps, or returns, anyplace it dominates, to the 7th century, and it won’t allow itself to be “discarded”, as long as it believes it will achieve ultimate victory, which it believes it is destined to do.

  • Lynlylacdang

    Does God want this things to happen?

    • Anonymous

      God? No. allah? Yes, because allah is just a figment of muhammad’s sick, twisted, woman-hating psyche.

    • Kal_El

      You and I must have different gods, as yours seems to be an imbecile, and useless when it comes to protecting the innocent and the weak.

  • Lynlyladang

    I believe Islam would not consider this things. God is merciful and he always forgives.

    • Anonymous

      I believe in the tooth fairy.

      What you believe is worth nothing. You believe a woman-hating, psychotic, emotionally disturbed bedouin savage was a prophet of God.

      God forgives. allah hates and is eternally seeking bloody revenge for cartoons, posters, real and imaginary “disrespect”…

  • Abw

    Its a Sad Story for this Family to End like this, But I Cant See anything in the Quran About Beating you Wife to Death. & why is it Eveytime an Asian Does this Islam comes into it, WHat about When a Non-Asian Goes on a Killing Spree Does Religion Get mentioned on the occasion. 

    • SirWilhelm

      It’s strange that you can’t see anything in the Quran about beating your wife to death, when so many other Muslims justify it as part of their culture, and everyone knows, Islamic culture is based on nothing but the Quran. Usually, when a “non-Asian” goes on a “Killing Spree”, it has nothing to do with religion, it’s usually because of insanity, drunkeness, or drugs, which is why religion doesn’t get mentioned. Does that clarify things for you, Abw?

      • ConcernedAsian

        Good point SirWilhelm! :) You nailed it! :D

    • Tonto

      In the west, religion is only mentioned if religion has anything to do with it.  What muz don’t understand is that  islam is total public occupation in islamic countries and that people in the west treat religion very differently.  In the west, for the most part, religion is a Sunday occupation, and basically, that’s the only time that religion isn’t private.  I have many friends who’s religion I have no idea about….nor do I care.  I don’t push religion on other folks and dislike it if and when other folks try to press me on religion.  99% of the time, murders in the west have nothing at all to do with religion….while in the east, religion (in the form of “honor killing” or some imagined slight or insult to islam) is often used as the excuse of the day.  I just think in the East, islam is the excuse for killing whether the reason, as relates to islam is real or not….just handy.  I think muz are kill crazed bastards anyway.

  • Bogahmiah

    what a sad story man. didnt have to end this way. hope he has regrets now. whta beatiful kids he had

  • massage1975

    It is wrong to murder for any reason and as for these( blank blanks) they should not have any justification no women  is property i don’t care what there law says killing is worse then being shunned by the  friends or family they need to be in there own country if they cant follow the laws that every single human being should be following the world over if its legal in there country although its wrong and needs to be fixed they should not be allowed to be in another country with their Bs  thou shout not kill 
    and  it needs to be a punishment of life in prison or death for them. they are  less then human beings they r scum all those murdered children all the pretty faces gone and for  why shame come on they can allow this crap to go on. swift with the punishment find a judge that hands out death sentences like candy on trick or treat day….. Send those ass holes to there Hell skip the virgins give them old used throw back prostitutes…..  Land Gold Women my ass 

  • Siddhathgoodboy

    this man should be hanged!! or as their holy religion states stoned to death!!!!!!! fucking retard asshole!!!!!!!

  • Mira Lea

    All a man has to do is suspect that the woman has had an affair, or has done something, real or imagined, that has offended him for him to ‘feel totally justified’ in murdering her and, in this instance, her children.nHe is a cold-blooded murderer, and he should be punished as such to the full extent of the Law.