Why Concealed weapons permits are good

by Infidelesto on November 7, 2007 · View Comments

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Because they allow good citizens to stop criminals in their tracks.  Here’s a good example:

From the Orlando Centinal:

Two holders of concealed-weapons permits surprised armed thugs who approached them in west Orlando this week.

Both men opened fire rather than surrender their wallets. The robbers beat it.

“They left with broken egos. They didn’t get nothing from us,” Juan Amezaga said Tuesday. “If more people stood up for themselves, a lot of crime could be prevented. And the concealed-weapons permit, that’s great.”

The men say they exercised their constitutional right to own guns, carried them legally and defended themselves within the state’s deadly force law.

Liberals want to take your guns away.  They say they are “dangerous” and would do more harm to the public than good.  People like Hillary Clinton want MORE gun laws that would restrict good citizens like these men from protecting themselves.

Amezaga, 25, and Stephen Soto, 23, were enjoying the fall weather outside Soto’s apartment on South Wilts Circle when two strangers walked by them two or three times. Thinking that was suspicious behavior, Amezaga and Soto took notice when both strangers walked up to Amezaga’s parked car, where the men were standing.

“What time is it?” one of the strangers asked.

Soto looked down at his watch and said, “It is 6:10.” Raising his head, Soto heard the stranger say, “Hey, run them,” as the man drew a black snub-nose revolver from the pouch in his sweat shirt.

As Soto pulled a 9 mm Keltec pistol from his right front pants pocket, he heard the robber’s gunfire and felt a bullet graze his left shin, breaking the skin. Still standing, Soto fired two or three times before both robbers turned and ran, the report states.

“They tried to rob me and my homeboy,” Soto said in a telephone interview Tuesday. “Man, put it like this: If I didn’t have a concealed-weapons permit, it would have been a lot worse.”

I’m tired if hearing the argument that more gun control is better for society as a whole.  Try telling that to the people of pre-Nazi Germany in the 1930′s.  Citizens were totally disarmed and had nothing to defend themseleves when the Nazi’s came to take them away.

Liberals love to think in such simple terms.  “If only there were less guns, we’d be more safe” …uh, nuh uh, actually more good, well armed citizens will protect society more than any police force ever will.

I live in California where it’s nearly impossible to get a concealed weapons permit.  In fact, when I transport my gun, I have to have it trigger locked, locked in a case, locked in a trunk.  That’s three times locked.  What good would it do me if I actually had to use it? None.  California gun laws are so strict, if they can’t stop you from owning a gun, they sure as hell can stop you from ever using it, even if you had to defend yourself.

I’m tired of dumb libs telling me guns are dangerous.

I’m tired of politicians telling me that guns are the reason for high crime.

I’m tired of stupid citizens who think they will actually be safer with more gun laws.

The criminals will still get their weapon of choice.  they will still find that gun.  they will still kill you or rob you when they can.  It’s up to YOU to decide to defend yourself or not.

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  • Swamp Rabbit

    Concealed weapons permits are unconsitutional. The right to keep an bear arms shall not be infringed; permits are an infringement.

  • Infidelesto

    Don’t you think there should be some sort of regulation though? You can’t have mentally unstable people or criminals bearing arms. You have to have some kind of regulation just like people who have drivers licenses have to pass a drivers test before they get their license. Good, armed, qualified citizens should be armed, and this should constitute most of society. I don’t think allowing anyone and everyone to carry arms is a good idea. Even I’m not THAT extreme. Neither is the NRA.

  • serfer62

    Washington DC may be the proving ground for concealed if the Supremes for the DC idiots to allow CCP…

  • Robert B.

    If you can pass the background checks, classes, and range sessions in Texas, then you have proven that you are not a criminal, understand when it is and is not permissible to use deadly force, and that you can fairly well hit your target.

    To me, I’d rather be surrounded by armed citizens with CCPs than unarmed ones, regardless if I am armed or not. The police can not be everywhere, and the courts have ruled that police are not bound by law to defend you from a criminal. “Dial 911″ is not an option a lot of times.

  • Swamp Rabbit

    Mentally unstable people and criminals already bear arms, that’s why we have a crime rate. I’m not happy with having to provide finger prints to the state or get permission from the state to exercise my second ammendment rights. It is a right, not a privilege and we the people should start acting accordingly.

  • Infidelesto

    @Swamp Rabbit – We don’t have a crime rate because criminals and mentally unstable carry arms legally or illegally. We have a crime rate because the government will not let Good citizens arm themselves and protect society by themselves. This goes back to the whole beaurocratic big government thing. The government think they know better when it comes to Gun control. The thinking is totally backwards when they think that MORE gun control will produce LESS crime. What they don’t understand is that when you DISARM the good people, it’s just a free-for-all for bad people to illegally gain weapons and use them against unarmed civilians.

    To turn a blind eye on SOME REGULATION is plain dumb. Citizens should only be allowed to carry concealed weapons on the street after they have passed the proper training. Good, responsible, armed individuals with the right training will drop the crime rate more than any strict gun control law ever will

  • Swamp Rabbit

    (We have a crime rate because the government will not let Good citizens arm themselves and protect society by themselves.)

    My point exactly. The second ammendment is clear. When government will not let Good or bad for that matter, arm themselves that is an infringment. Only the Good folks respect the unconstitutional gun control laws/outright bans in some cases and are the ones harmed. I have no permit, however I carry, in a holster in plain view and when in an auto, lying on the front seat, again in plain view. The weapon is mine registered to me. I’ve never had a problem with law enforcement. Oh and yes, it is always loaded.

    (To turn a blind eye on SOME REGULATION is plain dumb. Citizens should only be allowed to carry concealed weapons on the street after they have passed the proper training.)

    Some regulation always leads to more and more regulation (I’m sure we can agree on that). When regulation creates a situation where permission is needed from/granted by the gov to exercise a constitutional right, it is no longer a right.

    P. S.
    This has been one of the best exchange of ideas that I have experienced on the web. Great site and debate :)

  • Infidelesto

    I see your point, I think we agree for the most part except for minor regulation enforcement, and yes you’re right, some regulation can always lead to more regulation which can be dangerous and that’s kind of what’s happened here in California. Some regulation has led to a RIDICULOUS amount of regulation where it’s illegal to carry (concealed or not) outside your home without a permit, it’s next to IMPOSSIBLE to attain a Concealed weapons permit (I won’t go into the requirement in attaining a CCW), and to carry in your car, the gun must be “locked” 3 times for it to be legal, basically disarming you from ever actually using it for protection.

    It’s sad to go to a gun show in california and see more booths advertising “air guns” than real guns. This society has been nearly disarmed or suppressed to the point where even if you own a gun, they want to make sure you’re never in a position to use it if you have to protect yourself or your family.

    Thanks for reading. Hope to see you back, Rabbit.

  • GenAwesome

    I think the idea of a concealed carry weapon is fine and all ( I myself carry a weapon practically everywhere I go) but, I also do think too that If the world was less filled with morons and filled with smarter folks we wouldn't have things such as blogs and laws and people who fuss over things. I do however would find it very funny if they made owning guns illegal as criminals would simply go and buy one from the black market and start major crime sprees. I have only had to use the weapon I carry with me (Glock 18C that I have modified to suit me better*) twice and I can't say it was fun or intelligent as every body knows, Guns don't kill people, People with guns kill people it's that simple, People are the most dangerous things out there. Just think, what can destroy a whole city? A nuclear weapon, What can bash a man's skull in? A baseball bat, who made all these? People did, I'm not saying people are bad I'm just saying if there were more smart people there wouldn't be need for a sidearm to make you feel safe because they'd be smarter than that.

    * In case anyone was wondering it's a Glock 18C “C” for compensated, that I had my department order for me as I heard many good things about it. It has a modified magazine that holds 25 cartridges plus 1 in the chamber, It also has completely reworked innards like the feed ramp and slide etc. and a stronger overall weapon such as spring and frame as I like to have +P or even sometimes +P+ 9x19mm ammunition just to make it overkill (I know, pretty useless but hey, It's my weapon) It fits good on me as I'm a little bigger than a normal guy, standing 6ft 5 1/2in and 205lbs last I checked, On occasion though, I sometimes carry my .357 SIG but for some odd reason I don't like the way this model fits in my hand but it was a buddy's so I can't complain. Hopefully I've rambled enough to make someone think or just enough to tick someone off.

    Until next time, do svidaniya
    ~Gen. Awesome~

  • SirWilhelm

    I compared your remarks with those made by the folks that criticized the protesters that openly carried firearms outside the Obama event in Phoenix recently. It bothered them that it was legal to do that there, and they worried about what those carrying them might do with them. Their real worry should have been with those that carry concealed weapons, because, unlike in your case, they are probably illegal. Those carrying illegal, concealed weapons are much more likely to commit illegal, and violent, acts with their guns. I see those carrying guns legally, especially those carrying them openly, as a deterrant to those carrying illegal guns. Especially since the police that carry them are so few that they are often easily avoided until after a crime is committed. I feel this was the true intent to the 2nd Amendment, and only those with inclinations towards tyranny in govt should fear it.

  • GenAwesome

    I think the idea of a concealed carry weapon is fine and all ( I myself carry a weapon practically everywhere I go) but, I also do think too that If the world was less filled with morons and filled with smarter folks we wouldn't have things such as blogs and laws and people who fuss over things. I do however would find it very funny if they made owning guns illegal as criminals would simply go and buy one from the black market and start major crime sprees. I have only had to use the weapon I carry with me (Glock 18C that I have modified to suit me better*) twice and I can't say it was fun or intelligent as every body knows, Guns don't kill people, People with guns kill people it's that simple, People are the most dangerous things out there. Just think, what can destroy a whole city? A nuclear weapon, What can bash a man's skull in? A baseball bat, who made all these? People did, I'm not saying people are bad I'm just saying if there were more smart people there wouldn't be need for a sidearm to make you feel safe because they'd be smarter than that.

    * In case anyone was wondering it's a Glock 18C “C” for compensated, that I had my department order for me as I heard many good things about it. It has a modified magazine that holds 25 cartridges plus 1 in the chamber, It also has completely reworked innards like the feed ramp and slide etc. and a stronger overall weapon such as spring and frame as I like to have +P or even sometimes +P+ 9x19mm ammunition just to make it overkill (I know, pretty useless but hey, It's my weapon) It fits good on me as I'm a little bigger than a normal guy, standing 6ft 5 1/2in and 205lbs last I checked, On occasion though, I sometimes carry my .357 SIG but for some odd reason I don't like the way this model fits in my hand but it was a buddy's so I can't complain. Hopefully I've rambled enough to make someone think or just enough to tick someone off.

    Until next time, do svidaniya
    ~Gen. Awesome~

  • SirWilhelm

    I compared your remarks with those made by the folks that criticized the protesters that openly carried firearms outside the Obama event in Phoenix recently. It bothered them that it was legal to do that there, and they worried about what those carrying them might do with them. Their real worry should have been with those that carry concealed weapons, because, unlike in your case, they are probably illegal. Those carrying illegal, concealed weapons are much more likely to commit illegal, and violent, acts with their guns. I see those carrying guns legally, especially those carrying them openly, as a deterrant to those carrying illegal guns. Especially since the police that carry them are so few that they are often easily avoided until after a crime is committed. I feel this was the true intent to the 2nd Amendment, and only those with inclinations towards tyranny in govt should fear it.

  • Austynschueller

    Shoot people

  • DUKE PRIDE 35

    Why shouldnt there be consealed weopon permits aloud it helps save peoples lifes everyday and protects people i carry a weopon every were i go to protect my self so for all u people that think we shouldnt have weopon permits u r retarted because it is good thing definatly not a bad thing sure some people would u use it for bad like goerge zimerman but all in all its a good thing like if treyvon martin had a consealed weopons permit like zimerman then he may still be alive and that is the way it should be there is no reason for him to be dead right now all because of tea and skittles that is so messed up and george zimmerman should be put behind bars or i think that he should face life in prison because he had no reason for doing what he did to treyvon that killed still had the rest of his life to life.

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