Top 10 Quran quotes every woman MUST SEE
10:59 pm on January 11, 2008 by Infidelesto
Tell every woman you know about these verses. The oppression of women that Islam advocates is not only disturbing, but is direct contrast with everything that Western civilization stands for when it comes to the rights of women.
These are referenced from an article published from the American Thinker in 2005. Each one goes into much greater detail if you are interested in reading more on each verse. The article is here: Top 10 rules in the Quran that oppress women
10. A husband has sex with his wife, as a plow goes into a field.
The Quran in Sura (Chapter) 2:223 says:
Your women are your fields, so go into your fields whichever way you like . . . . (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Qur’an, Oxford UP, 2004)
9. Husbands are a degree above their wives.
The Quran in Sura 2:228 says:
. . . Wives have the same rights as the husbands have on them in accordance with the generally known principles. Of course, men are a degree above them in status . . . (Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur’an, vol. 1, p. 165)
8. A male gets a double share of the inheritance over that of a female.
The Quran in Sura 4:11 says:
The share of the male shall be twice that of a female . . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 311)
7. A woman’s testimony counts half of a man’s testimony.
The Quran in Sura 2:282 says:
And let two men from among you bear witness to all such documents [contracts of loans without interest]. But if two men be not available, there should be one man and two women to bear witness so that if one of the women forgets (anything), the other may remind her. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 205).
6. A wife may remarry her ex—husband if and only if she marries another man and then this second man divorces her.
The Quran in Sura 2:230 says:
And if the husband divorces his wife (for the third time), she shall not remain his lawful wife after this (absolute) divorce, unless she marries another husband and the second husband divorces her. [In that case] there is no harm if they [the first couple] remarry . . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 165)
5. Slave—girls are sexual property for their male owners.
The Quran in Sura 4:24 says:
And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands [as prisoners of war] . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319).
4. A man may be polygamous with up to four wives.
The Quran in Sura 4:3 says:
And if you be apprehensive that you will not be able to do justice to the orphans, you may marry two or three or four women whom you choose. But if you apprehend that you might not be able to do justice to them, then marry only one wife, or marry those who have fallen in your possession. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 305)
3. A husband may simply get rid of one of his undesirable wives.
The Quran in Sura 4:129 says:
It is not within your power to be perfectly equitable in your treatment with all your wives, even if you wish to be so; therefore, [in order to satisfy the dictates of Divine Law] do not lean towards one wife so as to leave the other in a state of suspense. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 381)
2. Husbands may hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives (quite apart from whether they actually are highhanded).
The Quran in Sura 4:34 says:
4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great. (Haleem, emphasis added)
1. Mature men are allowed to marry prepubescent girls.
The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:
65:1 O Prophet, when you [and the believers] divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting—period and count the waiting—period accurately . . . 4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and the same applies to those who have not menstruated as yet. As for pregnant women, their period ends when they have delivered their burden. (Maududi, vol. 5, pp. 599 and 617, emphasis added)
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Comment by Carrington on 12 January 2008:
This makes me so sick to my stomach. Thank you for sharing this, I will keep this personally. On a side note, thank you for all the content and multiple posts a day, you are doing awesome!
Comment by Aksa on 22 January 2008:
you have no idea about women in Islam!!! you have taken things out of context… go educate yourself properly before you make shit posts!!!!!
Comment by noel on 9 March 2008:
i agree with Aksa im a muslim women and we are very much respected
Comment by anti-aksa on 17 March 2008:
even if he has taken it out of context, it is still there.. so meaning there is a chance of these things being used against women.. so technically, the religion has some flaws in advocating them… don’t u think?
Comment by with-Aksa on 28 March 2008:
let me say it like this, if you read: “husband kills wife” , then you’d think this man should deserve the death penalty. but what if the story changed to: “wife attacks husband, husband fights back” . Then the version of the story has changed and you would sympathize more with the man. It’s the same thing. Anyone that would read this would think how unjustice Islam is with women. So why wouldn’t all muslim women leave islam, or why would other women convert to islam in the first place? i know feminists that have converted to Islam just because of the equal treatment for women. first, people shouldn’t misinterpret the words of the Quran because thats not how they’re all interpreted. second, somethings might sound debatable because there’s no explanation. To verify and understand something, we have to educate ourselves and not allow ourselves to believe what everyone wants us to perceive.
Comment by y.k. on 28 March 2008:
Not everything is interpreted correctly. There is no where in the Quran where it says a man can marry a girl before passing puberty. either someone just purposely added it, or obviously does not know how to read. so if someone actually wants an interpretation from 1-10, here it is:
For number 1: It’s not even stated once in the Quran.
For number 2: it’s misinterpreted wrong. In the Quran it explains that a wife should be respectful and obedient, and so a man has the right to be firm with her, not abuse her!
For number 3: The verse is right, but the title is wrong. The title claims that a man can just get “rid” of one of his wives, but no where in verse does it even say that. A woman is not a toy, and no where in the Quran does it mention a man is so free.
For number 4: yes, its correct and there’s nothing wrong with it. What’s wrong if a religion permits polygamy? There are many cultures and religions who have accepted and embraced polygamy. Why is Islam being looked upon as the culprit? It clearly says in the verse that the man must treat them equally, and if he cannot, then one is better. -I can go on for the reasons why polygamy is allowed: As we all know, there are almost double the amount of women than men in the world (due to factors such as men required for war, health, age, etc.). For this reason, Islam has allowed polygamy to give the chance to other women to be married and experience the fruitfulness of marriage. It has even been statistically proven that for every man, there are 3.1 women. If a women prefers to keep the marriage as monogamy, there’s nothing wrong with it.
For number 5: It is COMPLETELY misinterpreted! During war, muslims have spared the lives of their opponents (male or female) by letting the opponent serve them until free (and not even into slavery as the the previous slavery in america) So the verse says that no man should marry a woman that is currently married, but is permitted to marry the girl who is serving him (completely different back than during slavery in america where no white man was allowed to marry a black women and so forth) For number 6: the verses are right, but the title is misleading making it sound wrong. In Islam, a woman/man shouldn’t get divorced for more than 3 times. If someone got divorced for the 3rd time, then their marriage is basically over. Islam takes its marriage seriously, and if someone’s marriage fails 3 times, then obviously its not going to be heading to the right way. That’s why if a women marries a second man, it would only be realized how serious divorce is and shouldn’t be taken for granted. And for anyone who might disagree with it shouldn’t go against these views as the Roman Catholics don’t even allow divorce.
For number 7: 100% correct, but needs explanation. First, I must point out that in life, a man/woman should be treated equally. But what is equality? Does equality mean the same? Islam says that both man and woman are equal, but that doesn’t mean the opposite sex are the same (biologically speaking that is) Don’t women go through phases during menstruation, pregnancy? Women are more softer, tender, less offensive. Men are more tough, firm, and straight to the point. Women also tend to forget easier than men. That doesn’t mean men are superior, it just means they’re different. During a testimony, it’s very possible for any woman to soften the tensity of a situation to reduce the burden on an accused individual. Women are women. They’re more biologically soft hearted than men. Knowing that women place such warmth inside, its better if a man testifys along to validate the act as it was. Emotion plays a big part on women’s life and can easily move them.
For number 8: Also 100% correct and needs explanation. Actually if once understood, any woman would accept it. In Islam, a man is required to attain all the women’s needs as it is a requirement by him in Islam. That doesn’t mean a woman can’t be independent and work, it just means that a woman has the right to let her father, brother, husband, manage her financial income. For this reason, a father that passes away gives his son double that of his daughter as the son is obliged to pertain stability for his own wife and his sister. It is the man’s duty in Islam to look after his wife, mother, sister, in respect to the woman. Having said this, it would only make sense that the man get double, as he is the one who’s obliged to look after his sister. So this is actually making it easier on the woman as she also gets to spend her share of the will with complete freedom.
For number 9: Also 100% true. I have to say this though, women have always wanted to feel like their status is as equal to those of men. Looking back at history, we have seen feminists fighting for women’s rights throughout the world. But let’s face it, men have always been dominant. Adam was the FIRST man created on earth and Eve the SECOND. The man was always “the man of the house”. The man was always the prophet. Why is it even in christianity that God was chosen as man (referring to Jesus), while Islam claims that God is no man or woman, but merely just the fact that man has played a vital role on earth; yet people want to attack Islam by saying that muslim men claim they are superior? Haven’t all our presidents been men? Great dictators/leaders…men? Man has always seemed to take control. This idea has always played in the nature of men in all generations.
For number 10: 100% true, but the title misleads the meaning. I’m just going to get this straight out: who Doesn’t enjoy the pleasures of intercourse with their partner? Man OR Woman. I could definitely see whoever is against Islam would debate on this, even though there is nothing really to be combative about. The verse needs understanding. It’s as clear as this: God created Adam along with Eve so that they share companionship, love, friendship. Why didn’t God create another guy Adam? Because for a man and woman it is what they both will ever want from each other. Yes, that includes straight out sex. The verse may sound something different than its true meaning behind it. The verse says that God created man and woman for both its pleasure and fruitfulness. So the verse says to the men to enjoy (the gift of women) and feel free to choose the one they love, exchanging love and passion. What is so wrong with that? Don’t people have intercourse normally with other people? Aren’t there pimps, prostitutes, players out there doing what is that fills their desires? But why is it when Islam forbids adultery, and allows intercourse in marriage to be enjoyed seem to be so wrong? Why is it when a single man and single woman commit adultery to fulfill their desires seem to be normal, but everything that Islam says to protect society from corruption and immortality seem to be restrictive? Why is it that the Torah or Bible are not being inspected by doubts, but the Quran full of flaws and injustice? And why is it that people have to be ignorant and not educate themselves to gain the truth? This is coming from a woman who used to be a skeptic feminist. But I’ve come to a realization that in order for one to understand something, one must willingly free doubtful thoughts and look beyond a meaning that has so much more to it. Islam is not a religion of hate, or unjust to women. It does not advocate violence nor does it permit muslims to commit acts that could violate the rights of others. Would it be fair to say that a group of people are terrorists simply because individuals of that group have engaged themselves to something wrong? Each individual should be judged in regard to themselves as a person. A religion should be judged within the content of its message and not the accusations and hatred coming from a group of opposing individuals. Islam, like any other religion, advocates peace and disfavors domestic violence. If people have nothing else better to do than attack it and run fictional facts based on lies from the media, then we all might as well keep each other off track. Speak kind words. And speak the truth, or better not speak at all.
Comment by sajid on 4 April 2008:
thanks for criticising islam i am in search for negative comments so that i can clear out the misconceptions in the minds of peaople islam is the true erligion..i know and its ur ignorance that u are unaware..thank u once again!!bye bye …ha h ah a
Comment by Rudy on 4 April 2008:
sajid,
No one here is ignorant of islam. What we post is truth taken from various media sources, and even quotes from muslims themselves, about intolerance, violence, and hatred. It is you who are ignorant, of the fact that islam is dying, muhammad was a pedophile, a terrorist, a thief, and a lunatic.
Comment by Woad on 7 April 2008:
If its possible to interperate things in the way above then some will. btw If women are so respected then why the Burka. . . . .why the stonning to death of those who are suspected of adultry and why (in many places) does the Qur’an equate one man to two women. Why is polygamy allowed and practiced still?
Comment by y.k. on 25 April 2008:
To Woad:
Women wear the Burka so they can be respected. Unfortunately the media likes to display this in a negative way showing that Muslim women are oppressed and forced to wear it.Notice that in the Torah and Bible that women are required to cover.Look at Mary, mother of Jesus. Was she not covered? The Hijab/Niquab/ Burka is worn for modesty.Look at the Amish for example. The girls stick to their traditions by wearing long, wide clothes simply as a sign of respect. Even in churches, it is better that girls cover up. As we all know, girls have become a sex symbol and the challenge to be in the “trend” is on going. Many choose to wear the Burka because they feel a sense of security and comfort knowing that they are not catching the eyes of some predating men whom gaze with lust.
As the stoning of death for those who commit adultery, one must observe the lust that has spread through out the world. You must consider that Islam, like Judaism and Christianity, condemn adultery simply because it has led to destruction in generations. Everything now is sexual, and people everywhere are displaying inappropriate images. People now cheat more than ever, and the desire to have sex is almost now the standard in Western societies. In order to prevent people from committing such acts, there needs to be a punishment, as any consequence would need.
As for the equality between a man and woman, please refer to my last post where i stated “number 7″.
I also mentioned polygamy in “number 4″, but I would like you to get a clear understanding of polygamy. Unfortunately due to all the wars that men have went through, millions of men have died, either being single, being husbands or being fathers. Due to this, there are millions of women who will never get the opportunity to get married simply because there are more women than men in the world. Is it not in everyone’s best interest to find love, get married, have children, and commit to a relationship to start a family? Why should millions of other women not have that opportunity? People think that polygamous marriage might not work, but aren’t there monogamous marriages that fail? It might not be in a woman’s interest for her husband to bring additional wives, but it really depends how one looks at it. There are many women who accept and embrace polygamy because they understand and feel for other women. For other women who don’t, they should not be blamed as it may seem for them a distraction in their current marriage. Everyone has a choice, and a man MUST treat all of his wives equally. If he is unable to do so, then monogamy is best in this case.
Comment by M. Teli on 15 May 2008:
I I think many would appreciate it very much if you do not take text out of context, and reread and properly understand Islam before you post your ideas about a religion. Yes, many of your above quotes would seem very vulgar and highly wrong if taken out of context as you very well did. But the fact is each of these horrid sounding statements has other text before and after it with exceptions, explanations, literal vs. figurative definitions, etc. I don’t mean to be rude, but just fyi, this can be taken offensive.
Comment by Rudy on 15 May 2008:
M. Teli,
How about you DO something about all the muslims who use children as suicide bombers, raping their maids and killing them, blowing themselves up in markets, funeral tents, weddings, etc…, and decapitating journalists like Daniel Pearl, instead of whining about “context”. Instead of whining about phrases in the Idiots Guide To Terrorism (the quran) being “taken out of context”, why not DO something to stop muslims from blowing themselves up, flying planes into buildings, and calling for an entire nation to be wiped from the map????
Comment by Storm-Rider on 15 May 2008:
Actions speak louder than words whether the words are in or out of context. It appears to me that the words are in context and that the actions of Muslim men are in line with the words of the Quran.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/media/4CDF1CEC-779C-4699-A123-A8992F4D9219/5f35012e-a9b7-4553-abac-efed7da6c983.pdf
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=2ACCD764-5177-4D05-9186-4B9EFE442849
http://www.cathud.com/LINKS/pages_GL/Islam.htm
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=F14951CB-4877-4E1B-A076-5DC971996ADF
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27770_Video-_Saudi_Cleric_Explains_Proper_Islamic_Wife_Beating_to_Teens&only
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm
http://infidelsarecool.com/2007/12/19/top-muslim-cleric-kill-women-who-wont-wear-hijab/
http://www.thememriblog.org/blog_personal/en/1656.htm
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/12/death_before_burkas_1.html
Comment by y.k. on 21 May 2008:
To Storm Rider:
So you are judging a religion based on what some individuals do? There are numerous of bad people from all religions. Aren’t there people like popes who molest children? Or people like Hitler? Does that mean Christian people are bad? Or Jewish people? The Quran does not advocate violence even if some Muslims choose against it. Also, not all information we get from the media is even true. It’ll always be bias because it’s coming from a group of people who are against Islam to begin with.
Comment by Storm-Rider on 21 May 2008:
y.k.
No I don’t judge the entire Muslim religion as evil. The peaceful practice of Islam - the worship of God - acts of compassion and mercy for the sick and the poor - this I love and admire from good Muslims. There I wish to be your eternal friend.
I oppose and I encourage eternal warfare against Sharia Law and murdering Islamic Jihad. Thomas Jefferson said it well, and he was speaking against corrupted Christianity at the time, but it applies to corrupted Islam and all forms of tyranny:
“I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
Comment by jen tha rednek on 22 May 2008:
“I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” Thank you Storm-Rider, I have always loved that quote, it does not get quoted enough or so I believe. I also like this one, “Anything taken to an extreme can become evil.” Strapping bombs on children, stoning adulterers without a fair trial and condemning those that leave Islam to death…well I think thats extreme and has became evil. Just a thought…
Comment by Storm-Rider on 22 May 2008:
“I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” Thomas Jefferson
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” Thomas Jefferson
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm
“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry
http://www.law.ou.edu/ushistory/henry.shtml
Comment by y.k. on 22 May 2008:
To Storm Rider:
You are absolutely right. But unfortunately, people do not view Islam or Muslims through positive means, simply because of a few individuals’ actions that give Muslims a bad name. Most of the terroristic acts done are cultural and nothing to do based on the religion. On top of it all, the media is not making it any better. As you can see even on this website it tries to bring people against Islam when in fact these people are making false accusations and have got the wrong idea all together. It’s because of things like this that Muslims have gained so much negative attention.
Comment by Storm-Rider on 23 May 2008:
Y.K.
No, we are not in complete agreement. It is not just the actions of a few individuals that give Muslims a bad name. All of the terrorist acts of murder are religious and not cultural. This website is helping to educate people about the threat to their lives and their liberty which Totalitarian Islam represents. Totalitarian Islam is Murdering Totalitarian Islamic Sharia Law and Murdering Totalitarian Islamic Jihad, and our struggle against it is World War IV; and it will be a long war. There are no false accusations here - yours is a false accusation. Mass-murder and political coercion will gain much negative attention.
“I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” Thomas Jefferson
“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry
Comment by y.k. on 23 May 2008:
I think the problem seems to be that people are obviously getting the wrong idea of “Islamic Jihad”. You and so many others follow what the media wants you to believe. Jihad means to fight for the cause of God. Meaning, if a group of people are fighting off and killing innocent Muslims(which is the apparent situation at the moment) then Muslims have the right to fight back. Should one sit back and wait until his or her entire nation is demolished? Take a look at one of the posts written above by “with-Aksa”. That would seem a good point. The media puts in bits a pieces of a story and leaves crucial details that could change a story. Islam would not be the fastest growing religion in the world if it were truly violent. Nor would it have women converting if it were “oppressing women”. If you want truth, you have to search. And searching means you know both sides because I can assure you that getting info from Anti-Muslims means the reality is only non-existent. Islam, like any other religion advocates peace. Who ever is against it is against it and always will be. As the saying goes: “An eye for an eye” (Exodus 21:23–27) People fight to gain their rights, and that includes everyone.
Comment by Storm-Rider on 23 May 2008:
y.k.
No, we are not getting the wrong idea of Islamic Jihad. Your “fight for god” came to America on September 11, 2001, and that was no “fighting off and killing innocent Muslims” - quite the opposite little man.
It is we Americans who have a right to fight back against this evil of Islamic Jihad - we will defend our God-given life and liberty.
“I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” Thomas Jefferson
“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry
Comment by y.k. on 23 May 2008:
First, if it “were” Muslims who took part of the tragedy on September.11, then you and I are in complete agreement. Hundreds of innocent people died in the most tragic way. But lets Ignore the fact that I believe that September.11 was an inside job (as so many other American people believe as well), what did Iraq have ANYTHING to do with September.11? What I understood was that these muslim “terrorists” were up somewhere in Afghanistan. MILLIONS of Iraqi citizens are dead, thousands of U.S. troops are dead, and all for what cost? Oil? Trust me, I used to fall for the medias information. I just searched for the missing pieces of the puzzle. Muslims, including Christians, Jews, Athiests, who kill innocent people are just evil. A Muslim man who rapes and kills a girl is not considered to be a real Muslim, or a real Christian, or a real Jew. A Muslim father who kills his daughter for not wearing the Hijab has nothing to do with Islam. It is AGAINST Islam to kill UNLESS you are fighting to defend yourself. In Islam, it is not permitted to kill children women,and innocent men. Who does so is wrong (Muslim or non- Muslim). The absurd killing that you and I hear are so-called Muslims who follow their culture instead of their religion. It has nothing to do with Islam. The things we hear are bias, and the government controls what we hear in our so-called Freedom of Press. The government says they fight terror, but all they do is terrorize not only the American people, but the hundreds that have turned to millions each day.
Comment by Rudy on 23 May 2008:
y.k.
YOu and the idiots who believe 9/11 was an inside job are part of the problem. The media is biased in favor of muslim terrorists. That is why this blog exists. Your lies are pointless, and a waste of your energy on a keyboard. If your claim that “A Muslim man who rapes and kills a girl is not considered to be a real Muslim, or a real Christian, or a real Jew. A Muslim father who kills his daughter for not wearing the Hijab has nothing to do with Islam. It is AGAINST Islam to kill UNLESS you are fighting to defend yourself. ” has any merit whatsoever, why did Muhammad order the extermination of entire tribes of Jews? Why do you, and people of your ilk continue to denounce a blog that reports what is seen in media sources from the middle east, and Asian muslim countries, yet claim we are painting a negative picture of islam? Why do you not denounce imams who strap bombs to little girls and blow them up by remote? If the Government controlled the media, there would be no leftist MSNBC, CBS, ABC, or NBC, so right there your lie is exposed. If the Government controlled the media, Keith Olberman would be in a cell somewhere being tortured, just like they do in Iran and Syria, which, YOU GUESSED IT, are muslim countries. Muslim countries are the ones who censor the media, look at my article here about the Afghani journalist who was sentenced to death for questioning the barbaric teachings of the Hadith. You can serve up all the taqqiya you want, but we here are no idiot socialist puppets. I bet you are one of those kooks who believes the global warming bullshit that fat bastard Al Gore spews.
Comment by Storm-Rider on 23 May 2008:
“what did Iraq have ANYTHING to do with September.11?”
y.k.
Totalitarian Islam is bi-modal, it is a two headed monster as Norman Podhoretz has described it in his book: “World War IV - The Long Struggle Against Islamofascism.”
On the one hand you have mass-murdering Islamic Terror organizations whose aim is to establish Sharia Law in non-Muslim lands by force. On the other hand there are Fascist Islamic nations who are terror-supporters, and where Sharia Law is already in place either openly or in the background.
The United States is now engaged in World War IV against an international conspiracy and alliance of murdering Islamic Terrorist groups and murdering Fascist/Islamic Nations.
During World War II America was at war with the Axis Alliance - an alliance of murdering Nazi, Fascist and Imperial nations: Germany, Italy and Japan. We were attacked by Japan on December 7, 1941 at Pearl Harbor. America’s first significant execution of Just War against this Evil Alliance was Operation Torch - the Invasion of Morocco.
People may ask, “Why did America attack Morocco - they didn’t attack us?” People may ask, “What did Morocco have to do with Pearl Harbor?”
Here’s your answer, y.k.: When a member of an alliance of nations, or an alliance of nations and non-state actors such as terror groups, wages unjust war against a particular nation; that nation is then free to wage just war against the entire alliance arrayed against it - just war in defense of national life - and in the case of the United States - just war in defense of life and liberty.
The enemy nations or groups do not get to pick the time or the place for America to wage war. Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Syria, are members of the Islamo-Fascist alliance, along with al-Qaeda and other Islamic Terror groups. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Indonesia are probably on the list as well. These are the members of an evil conspiracy and alliance which has declared War on the United States of America, but we are not at war with ordinary good Muslims who are not supporters of the evil International Islamofascist Alliance.
Comment by y.k. on 24 May 2008:
Rudy
Keith Olbermann is an Independent news anchor. One of the good things about America (unlike some Arab countries as you have mentioned yourself) allow people to have a say without being interrogated for it. But people like Olbermann or Michael Moore can only speak out so much until the government bombards more conspiracies to terrorize the public, masking them from reality. Do you think that the mass media is incapable of lying? We’re talking about the most powerful, wealthiest, influential people in the world. They’re very much in control over what we see or hear, and I can assure you that they play a greater role to the American public. You’re talking about a small percent of those who are independent thinkers. How many times do you hear “Muslim Terrorists” compared to “the lies of the U.S. government”? Practically incomparable. There’s more evidence of support coming out from people who say that 9/11 was an inside job than what the government has ever provided. So instead, the government takes advantage of its leading power and uses the mass media to convey the so-called “horrific acts” of Muslims, which they know will be of a greater influence to the people. Every time they bring this up, fear is created, thus internal hatred is building up towards the Muslims.
As for the Prophet Muhammad “terminating” the Jews. Again you only take the info you want to hear. How about you complete it. How about you mention that the Muslims and Jews at that time were in one land together, living under a Muslim country, which over a period of time the Jews wanted to kill Prophet Muhammad (as they had to pay their taxes), which then led to Prophet Muhammad saying to get rid of the Jews. You leave such crucial points out as if Islam condemns the Jews or Christians. But you would probably ignore the stories about the kindness between the Muslims and different religions. There is a well known story about Prophet Muhammad and his Jewish neighbor. Everyday this neighbor would dump garbage on the doorsteps of Prophet Muhammad’s house. One day Muhammad got up and found his doorstep untouched. Questioning why there was no garbage as every other day, he went to his neighbor to ask why he had not come to dump garbage. Normally, one would just be grateful that their neighbor stopped giving them a hard time. But regardless, Prophet Muhammad went to visit his neighbor, after realizing that day he was sick. It was because of this act of kindness that his Jewish neighbor converted to Islam. No one should go on saying that Muslims hate Jews.Islam is peace. It is because of this reason that so many people convert because they try to understand what Islam is really about without absorbing the negative ideas the media brings out. Just because the Arab media censor some of the things, that doesn’t exactly make them right either. Again that is generalizing. And that doesn’t exactly make the American government right either. You’d actually be surprised how many times these Arab governments take sides with the U.S.. Which is why so many Muslims are against their own government (then again its not surprising).
Fyi, no I don’t really support Al Gore, Hillary, or Obama for that matter. They’re all the same when you look at it. Different ideas in some points, but all stand for one cause. It doesn’t really matter who I agree with or who you’re against, or vice versa. What matters is people shouldn’t hate each other for choosing to believe something. A Christian may be against the beliefs of Jews, but thats how life is. We’re not meant to agree with each other. We never will, because that’s how we humans are. That doesn’t mean we should all go against each other. Understand that humans are not perfect regardless of what religion. We can’t go on hating a group of individuals just because some morons do something unforgivable. I can’t understand why some people discriminate all Muslims instead of disliking a minority of them. Just like I can’t understand why some Muslims dislike the Jewish population because of a few bad ones. Again, Islam is not hate. People who hate will hate and will continue to hate. But hey, it doesn’t really matter. It doesn’t change the fact that a lot of people are willing to understand and educate themselves. You claim what I and so many others used to believe. The only difference is some people stick to their beliefs unwillingly accepting new ideas as it would cause a controversy to their present beliefs, and then there’s people who accept, change, and embrace to new ideas.
The brain can be so powerful, but only if one knows how to use it.
Comment by y.k. on 24 May 2008:
Storm-Rider
I can see your point, but that doesn’t mean for those reasons that America had a right to declare these wars. The U.S. claims countries like Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Syria are all linked. But again, what do the allies have to do with this? Shouldn’t the government be looking for its source? Look at the outcome of the war. We’re talking about millions dead, millions injured, millions displaced from their homes. War in general is something risky and should be reconsidered with precaution. America is well known for its numerous battles and wars against nations. That’s why unfortunately so many people are against America.It would only seem from this point that power has played such an important part. The U.S. has been in the lead, and to lose such a vital position is beyond fathomable. To be able to remain in the highest position (and I’m talking about for any country), resources would have to be flourishing, almost ever-lasting (practically impossible), and then the economy would have to have the means to be able to manage the incomes (imports and exports from different countries) which any country would try to avoid as there would be no longer any means to support such financial pays. Which would mean the country would be incapable of being in control of its society, and therefore falling behind. The U.S. definitely seems to have been good in being so powerful for such a long period time, but for what price? The blood of millions? These wars have helped the U.S. remain in the lead. These warfares gave America the opportunity to dominate and control, and use it all for the country’s benefits. To lose it all would be a risk, so to them what harm if there were sacrifices. A sacrifice means nothing to one if there is benefit. What would it matter to the U.S. if they had made other sacrifices? It payed the price thats for sure. To use excuses to allow controversial actions on others by making up propaganda would seem ingenious. It seems to the U.S. that everyone just wants to overthrow the government. Would seem like a good plan to engage in wars, only if the public viewed it the same.
Comment by Rudy on 24 May 2008:
Keith Olberman is a leftist tool. Michael Moore is nothing but a propaganda artist who has a talent for cutting and pasting video to make it suit his purpose. They, and their elitist communist bosses control the media, not the government. If the government controlled the media, no one would know abotu Gitmo, or Abu Ghraib. You are right in that they are allowed to speak with out fear of reprisal from the Govt. But they spew forth outright lies, and are often called out on it. They always find a way to make the guy who blows himself up the victim, such as the kuwaiti terrorist who was detained at Gitmo then release due to leftist whining. What did he do? Went right back to Iraq to blow himself up. But I am sure the explosion was “taken out of context”, as the leftists love to say. And who gives a crap about Abu Ghraib. Awww poor terrorist who love to blow themselves up in the name of islam, were made to play naked twister, and had a female laughing at their tiny genitals. Breaks my heart. Maybe next time we ought to be merciful like they are, and just cut their heads off and post the video on youtube. An eye for an eye, but you know DAMN well the US is better than that, and won’t do it.
And regarding “more evidence of support from people who say 9/11 was an inside job than what the government provided.” So what? People are free to believe what they want. 300 years ago everyone was convinced, they all just KNEW the earth was flat. People today also believed that an ARM was a good idea for buying a home, and that maxing out a credit card because the interest was only 3% was a good idea. How is that working out?
You distort the story of muhammad eliminating the Jews. Back when the Jews and Muhammads’s tribe were living in the Arabian peninsula together, it was NOT a muslim country. Islam didn’t take its hold until later in Muhammad’s life. The muslim country you speak of was not in existence until that point. That’s when he started his extinction agenda.
Now, regarding the outcome of the war, where are you getting this “millions of dead” figure? Are you a Rosie O’Donnell follower? As for the millions injured, or displaced, those numbers are misleading, due to the large numbers of Iraqis returning home, now that we are clearly winning in Iraq, something the so called govt controlled media is not reporting to you back in the US. As for what the allies had to do with this, Saddam hosted terrorist training camps, and employed terrorists to kill Iraqi dissidents, both in Iraq, and in Europe, as well as targeting foreign persons with said terrorists. You can find that information in various places. Iran funds and supports Hezbollah, the so-called resistance against Israel, who, by the way just turned their guns on the Lebanese they claim to protect from Israel, killing over 60 Lebanese civilians. The guns they used? Provided by Syria. Pakistan is a threat because Pervez Musharraf has no control over the tribal region of Waziristan, where al Qaeda is holed up. Pakistan has nuclear weapons. Al Qaeda wants to get their hands on one, and WILL NOT hesitate to use it on American Soil. If you cannot process that, it is your problem. As for America being known for numerous wars against nations, you say it like the US is the only nation to ever declare war on anyone. What about The First Reich of Germany against all of Europe? And then Nazi Germany against all of Europe? Iraq attacking Iran in the 80s, andinvading Kuwait in 1991? Or how about the armies of islam invading North Africa and then Europe? 800 years of occupation in Europe included, which resulted in the Crusades to retake the Holy Land, and the Spanish Inquisition, during which fewer people died than on 9/11.into the field in PA? And how about all that genocide and violence in Africa? Sudan, Chad, Nigeria, all muslim, all violent. I guess I am taking the violence out of context.
Comment by Storm-Rider on 24 May 2008:
y.k.
“but that doesn’t mean for those reasons that America had a right to declare these wars.”
No, y.k., the war was declared by our enemies - the Islamofascist alliance.
“We’re talking about millions dead, millions injured, millions displaced from their homes.
No, y.k., there aren’t millions dead, millions injured, or millions displaced from their homes. The vast majority of innocent civilians killed in Afghanistan and Iraq were murdered by the terrorist arm of the Islamofascist alliance.
“These wars have helped the U.S. remain in the lead. These warfares gave America the opportunity to dominate and control, and use it all for the country’s benefits.”
No, y.k., this war has helped the United States defend the sacred life and liberty of her people, not to conquer or dominate.
Comment by carolyne on 26 May 2008:
Storm-Rider I agree! We needed to just send it faster. Let’s make it a quickie message to the Islamofascist ‘Basket Cases’ of the world. Kick butts and take names! No questions asked! GET-ER Done <:)
Comment by Shamma on 19 June 2008:
In refuting your clause 5. Unless you read the previous versus, you wont see teh truth in this. You refered to verse 24, and said that
“5. Slave—girls are sexual property for their male owners.”
it was written in verse 23 that you can marry slave girls. how is marriage an oppression(according to what you say) i do not know.
Here are teh TWO verses
23: Forbidden to you (for marriage) are: your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your father’s sisters, your mother’s sisters, your brother’s daughters, your sister’s daughters, your foster mother who gave you suck, your foster milk suckling sisters, your wives’ mothers, your step daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom you have gone in - but there is no sin on you if you have not gone in them (to marry their daughters), - the wives of your sons who (spring) from your own loins, and two sisters in wedlock at the same time, except for what has already passed; verily, All?h is Oft?Forgiving, Most Merciful.
24. Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess. Thus has All?h ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek (them in marriage) with Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) from your property, desiring chastity, not committing illegal sexual intercourse, so with those of whom you have enjoyed sexual relations, give them their Mahr as prescribed; but if after a Mahr is prescribed, you agree mutually (to give more), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All?Knowing, All?Wise.
Comment by Jillia on 2 July 2008:
Isn’t it fascinating how completely brainwashed Islam is of it’s own crimes against all of humanity - including their own women? Yet, they have no idea - or are they simply as evil as Moham was? Also,the only benefit you get with being a woman in Islam is : stoning to death, forced imprisonment in your home, being a maid to every man in your life, being forced into marriage, being killed for ______ (pick your crime - Islam has it), and also, let’s not forget another horrific thing that no one speaks about - and that is having your vagina ripped from your body. All of it. I should ask Aisha, does she still have it? PUKE!
Wake up Muslim women. You’re completely, utterly, hopelessly BRAINWASHED. Use your BRAIN. Free yourself and live your life. You are fools, brainwashed and ignorant. Go visit the site
http://www.faithfreedom.org.