Video: Geert Wilders “Fitna” Trailer *update* Video Released!
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The Geert Wilders Fitna Movie has finally been released. It’s being hosted on Liveleak for now. Google and Youtube are also carrying it…for now.
*UPDATE* Liveleak Caves! …removed the video from their website after death threats to their staff members. Here is their statement:
“Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature, and some ill informed reports from certain corners of the British media that could directly lead to the harm of some of our staff, Liveleak.com has been
left with no other choice but to remove Fitna from our servers.This is a sad day for freedom of speech on the net but we have to
place the safety and well being of our staff above all else. We would
like to thank the thousands of people, from all backgrounds and
religions, who gave us their support. They realised LiveLeak.com is a
vehicle for many opinions and not just for the support of one.
Perhaps there is still hope that this situation may produce a
discussion that could benefit and educate all of us as to how we can
accept one anothers culture.We stood for what we believe in, the ability to be heard, but in the end the price was too high.”
Previous posts on Geert Wilders:
- Video: Geert Wilders Fitna Movie released *update* LiveLeak caves to threats
- Video: Glenn Beck on Geert Wilders “Fitna”
- Geert Wilders website shutdown
- Confirmed: Geert Wilders movie due out March 23rd
- Video: Geert Wilders under fire at home
- Dhimmis rallying against Geert Wilders
- The Geert Wilders effect
- Video: Geert Wilders speaks about anti-Koran film
- Video: Ayaan Hirsi Ali defends Geert Wilders anti-Islamic film
- Peaceful Muslims issue death threat for Geert Wilders on Youtube
- Geert Wilders: “Holland governed by fear of Islam”
This is the trailer for the movie everyone is talking about. “Fitna” by Dutch lawmaker, Geert Wilders. This guy has some balls doing what he’s doing. Good for him though. Good to see someone stand with courage and speak out against the rise of Islam in Europe.
Thank God for these brave anti-jihadists who are willing to put their lives on the line to get the message out.
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Posted by Infidelesto under Islam revealed, War on Terror
Excellent!!
There is nothing like a load of ignorance and bigotry to turn an ignominious film into a hit…especially when it is made and released in a hotbed of growing hate towards Islam!
Bravo! Hitler and Habyarimana would be proud!
The help add credence to the show, Robert Spencer is out there as a commentator, adding more falsehoods to the mix (The prophet Mohammed slit the throats of 800 Beni Quresh Jews! If he can do this, can you understand how many people the ordinary Muslim is ready to kill?).
Robert Spencer knows how to talk glibly, but knowledge of Islam is not even his weak point, let alone his strong one.
I am aware he has written three books on Islam…at least that is what he would like people to believe; The fact is that any fool can churn out reams of bigotry steeped in ignorance, but that does not an expert make. I have actually read one of his works of fantasy that Spencer would like to describe as a book on Islam, but I doubt if any Muslim (let alone a Muslim scholar) would consider it to be describing Islam.
I wish I were in the Netherlands because I would challenge Geert Wilders to a media-covered discussion of the points of his film…and he would be shown up as the ignorant bigot that he is. Heck, almost any reasonable Muslim can demolish his arguments, it really does not need a scholar to discuss at Wilders’ level!
Any of you promoters willing to make it happen by buying me a ticket to the Netherlands?
you said: “I wish I were in the Netherlands because I would challenge Geert Wilders to a media-covered discussion of the points of his film…and he would be shown up as the ignorant bigot that he is.”
Let’s do it here. I’ll speak for Wilders and you can debate me instead, K?
–Please tell me where he Wilders is wrong?
–Where is Spencer Wrong?
–Please enlighten us to the wonderful secrets of this great religion of peace.
–Please explain to us the life of the most loving, peacfeful man, Mohammed, who’m you love so much.
–Please explain to us the beautiful penalty of Apostasy in Islam. –Please explain to us the rights that Women in Islam have.
–Please explain to us the beautiful practice of Honor Killings that Islam so proudly advocates.
–Please describe the quotes of the Koran and Hadith that advocate the conversion of death of Infidels.
–Please describe the Jizza tax.
–Please describe Taqiya.
–Please describe Free thought, Freedom of speech and free press in Islam.
–Please explain the 99% af all terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims.
I’ll help you out…all things things can be summed up quite easily…THIS IS ISLAM. SUBMIT OR DIE. Read the Koran, read the Hadith, look at the life of Mohammed…nuff said.
If you take anything out of context you can make it look to be whatever you wish. Let’s examine how terrible a religion Christianity is - how vengeful. How Jesus preached hate. How Jesus preached vengeance… WHEN you take it out of context. Don’t read only the hateful books that discuss Islam, read books that show it to be a positive religion - an ex-nun Karen Armstrong is one such source.
Religions start out with good intentions, it is what successive generations of followers do with those intentions that matters… what Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and others do today matters for if we don’t learn it peacefully we may have the terrible outcome President Hitler, I mean Bush, has predicted.
Hello and thank you for exciting argument you conducted with yourself… In your e-mail to me, you ended with, “Thank you for proving my point for me”.
I guess there is no more agreeable audience than when one is speaking to ones self, is there?
You very clearly spoken to yourself, answered yourself and thanked yourself for speaking so intelligently and proving your own points so articulately.
Remember to pat yourself on the back; people need encouragement to continue in their work.
Your posed questions, for which you don’t appear open enough to consider responses, prove that you have no idea of what is in the Quran and it is likely that you are simply re-quoting other bigots.
They show no serious knowledge of world events, which tells me you probably only read stuff to “prove” your own self.
In fact, they tell me your mind is sealed shut as far as Islam or Muslims are concerned.
With such a limited mind-set, I am not at all surprised that you would swallow Spencer’s fantasies as readily as you appear to do.
To know where Spencer is wrong, you need at least a basic knowledge or Islam and the Quran. If you are unwilling to verify your theories, then you will always be guaranteed a supply of enemies because YOU are always going to BE the enemy; facts only seem to impede your passion.
As for telling you where “Wilders is wrong”, I have heard enough in the trailer to know he has insufficient knowledge of Islam to even form a valid opinion, let alone to make the self-promoting film that he did.
I guess it should not surprise me that the people with the tightest of sealed minds against Islam and Muslims, should rail so long and hard at the lack of “Freedom” in dictatorships ruled by Muslims.
I wish you an open heart and an open mind and if you are Christian, I wish you the love Jesus spent his life teaching.
jeff is another fine apologist. instead of answering any question put to him, he just puts down those who would differ with him. for being able to tell so well who or who does not possess even the slightest knowledge of islam, jeff should be an imam.
jeff shows us another example of those not able to defend the indefensible. he gives us not one single example where a critic of islam is wrong.
typical
As a rule, I do not engage in these rather pointless debates because the other parties do not identify themselves and usually show a singularly closed and ignorant mind.
STEVEK, the reason I did not answer your questions is that it was obvious you had a lot of hate and VERY little (if any) knowledge of Islam; if you had ANY knowledge of Islam, other than from trash that is put out by other bigots, you would not have put forth those ignorant challenges.
Besides, while I can demolish every one of your great ‘points’, it is an exercise in futility to argue with a closed (AND ignorant) mind.
It would further discussion (not necessarily agreement) if you read the Quran and THEN throw challenges. If you did read the Quran, I am betting you would not have a leg to stand on when you argue about the “evils” of Islam.
I am not likely to be responding to further comments.
To those who might wish to study about Islam and the prophet mohammed without reading the Quran.
Former nun and current religious scholar, Karen Armstrong wrote two excellent books: ISLAM is one and MOHAMMED is the other. They are easy to read and provide ecxcellent insights from a non-Muslim perspective.
I don’t want people to LOVE Islam, I just want them to understand it before they decide to shoot spitballs at it,
Mr. Siddiqui,
1. Do you believe that all people are created equal?
2. Do you believe that all people are endowed by the Creator with liberty?
3. Do you believe that liberty means freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion, right to bear arms and act in self-defense, right to own the property that you worked to create, right to privacy at home, and the division of political power into equal legislative, judicial and executive branches?
4. Do you believe in the separation of church, mosque and synagogue from state?
5. Does your religion support our God-given liberty, or is it the enemy of liberty?
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Thank goodness someone is making anything that critiques Islam. We should not live in fear of death threats just we say something remotely negative about a religion.
I was raised Catholic, have plenty of Muslim friends as well as some Jewish. While the friends I know are Americanised m\Muslims, they tell me (as well as I see) that there are factions of Islam that do preach hate (towards non converts) and world domination by forcing Islam on the world, (they want to take over Europe and North Africa like they had in the past ( Ottoman Caliphate and the Spanish Portuguese Caliphates). Yes Christians did the same, as well as other non religious groups (Roman Empire, British Empire, Spanish Empire) but that is all behind us now and Islam is growing and doing this now. Most moderate Muslims do not openly decry these more radical Islamists. I did not see very many Muslims denouncing the 9/11 attacks or Osama Bin Laden’s hatred towards the west, although a lot of these same ‘moderate’ Muslims live in the west. I think we are growing too “Politically Correct” and are becoming scared to see and or say things as they are. I am all for all religions and atheists alike, as long as they respect other peoples, creeds, colors, ethnicities and sexual preferences.
Iam European & iam afraid.
Once i lived in quarter where many Islamic people live.
I had to move uptown with my family because some reasons.
My kids where treaten cause we are Christian & from Islam beleve outcasted by the fact only Muslim is right and the others wil die by the hand of Allahs arm.
Iit was not posible to start debate cause all discussions only point to the direction that means we have to read the Koran and learn Arabic.
When i start an discussion with my knowlege about the Koran, i always get the answer to read it so often until i respect the fact, that al others beside the Islam is waste outcasted and final destination to die.
Shure it could be fine to talk with people who realy debate, but i can not. All real discussions wil be done in Arabic to exclude us (The outcasted).
Maybe it would be different if those who try to take position for the Koran give clear statements. I know they can not cause the Brainwash while visit the Koran school.
I know what iam telling about.
In my child time i visited differend Koran schools cause of my open mind and interest what those telling about when kick my balls after school cause iam a christian.
It was shocking the girls hat to stay outside to keep them in the role of slavenis of the boys.
Boys never realy learn to think independent cause they get hitten by the teacher and at home from good daddy who have to take care that his son grow up to a good solder of Mohamed. I personal saw friends laying on the ground flowing blood from the wounds the Imam, teacher or daddy did to them cause they where tired from reading and take a short breef to collect theyr mind for further studies. The answers always where “He has to learn for Allah if he not does he wil be an outcasted later like you!”. You Christian shit wil not understand that. Convert to Islam and we wil tell you. Long youre no Islamic, we are not able to teach you.
I was confused from so hard agression and took a look for an other side from that time.
Not kind to tel someone all non Islamic wil die after positive biological infiltration !? I wil never forget this tatement. The only real statement i got from an hardcore Islamic.
Storm-Rider, i have just read your post right now. I am a Moslem, and i have replies.
“1. Do you believe that all people are created equal?”
Yes i do.
“2. Do you believe that all people are endowed by the Creator with liberty?”
Yes i do.
“3. Do you believe that liberty means freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion, right to bear arms and act in self-defense, right to own the property that you worked to create, right to privacy at home, and the division of political power into equal legislative, judicial and executive branches?”
Yes, i do. But the current good division of power into legislative, Judical, and executive branches are only a modern invention that can, and will be improved in the future. I do not believe that they are the only possible way to run the country in a way that provides Fairness, and justice in a certain country. I am sure that the human mind will keep on improving the country structure to suit his evolving needs, and society.
“4. Do you believe in the separation of church, mosque and synagogue from state?”
I do not believe in this in the western way. You chose to take that way possibly because of the hisoty of church oppression, and dictatorship in the past. Religion is an integral part of the life of people. It cannot be really separated. You cannot force a jew to eat pork, and you cannot force a devoute christian to have divorce. Same thing for Islam. Having mixed society in a certain country can easily have solutions to its problems other than having to separate them from their religions.
“5. Does your religion support our God-given liberty, or is it the enemy of liberty?”
Yes, Islam supports Liberty. It is very strange that you say “OUR God”. Actually we believe that there is only ONE God. And that that one God is the same as Jewish God, and Christian God. THE ONE GOD.
I applaud Mr. Wilders, he’s standing up for the freedom of speech.
Personally, I don’t have a problem with ordinary Muslims. My beef is with Islam and the violence it teaches along with its open ended commands. It’s not the average ordinary every day Muslim out there waging Jihad on the west….or is it? When Muslims stop preaching hate, stop remaining indifferent to the violence Islam teaches, and the killing in the name of “Big Mo”…..until then, Islam will never be a religion of peace…and I’ll not respect it.
Thus far, I’ve yet to see anyone scripturally refute what Infidelesto posted . And while at it, if one so desires to undertake this task, please explain “al-Taqiyya” and the concept of “al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh”, it will help with the understanding of Islam.
Follow these links to become more familiar with the above concepts: http://www.faithfreedom.org/index.htm
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/quransdoctrine.shtml
I would say it is very dangerous to judge Islam by different terms that comes out of context and generalise it to all religion. The questions of Infidelesto are very detailed to answer, and would take a lot of space to do that in details. However, i would like to point to something very important. There are 1 Billion moslems in the world. The vast majority of them are peacful people with no hate to others. There are some others who are full of hatred and violence. I cannot imagine that only the minority would be right, and the majority wrong in interpreting the Islamic teachings. I agree that some aspects in Islam might look strange, but again if explained in their context right understanding would be reached.
What’s very dangerous is to look past the estimated 91 millions radicalized Jihadists around the world, not to mention those who are not radical, but still support TERRORISM for the sake of Jihad.
I can imagine if it was just a small sect, but cmon, 91 MILLION????
You have a huge problem on your hands, Hossam
Of course i know we have a problem. No sane person can claim otherwise. We have been suffering from it in our own countries since the late 1980s. But we are trying to say all the time, is that the problem is not coming out of Islam. It is the result of recent political history, and huge economical, and social problems. I can tell you that the main wave of terrorism is coming from former warriors in Afghanistan (in the 1970s). Those warriors were brain washed with mistaken islamic concepts that really suited the purposes of the USA to fight against communist Soviet Union, and stop its spread in mid Asia. When the war was over, those warriors found nothing to fight so they turn around to fight their own countries first, then the west later.
And come on. even if 91 millions is the correct number. Do you think less than 10% is good represntation of the whole population??
My main aim here is not to deny the problem, but to tell you that Islam is not its source. Islam has been used as a tool here to attract ignorant people (which are in plenty supply due to lack of good education, and due to poverty) to such groups.
I can tell you that also hundreds of Islamic scholars are trying hard to correct the wrong concepts in people’s minds, but this will take time, it will not happen overnight.
I would like also to mention that i am not denying Jihad is in Islam. But Jihad is the term used which exactly means the purpose of any legitimate army in any modern country; to defend the country against attack. The only difference is that Islam considers all moslems to belong to the same group. So in modern terms it means that countries should engage in a common defense alliances.
“But we are trying to say all the time, is that the problem is not coming out of Islam. It is the result of recent political history, and huge economical, and social problems. I can tell you that the main wave of terrorism is coming from former warriors in Afghanistan”
Terrorism-Jihad is not coming from Islam…..really? Jihad comes from the Qur’an & Hadith and it’s not an “inner struggle”. If the elderly and disabled are to be exempted from it, how can it be perceived as an inner struggle?
This problem is not new. Have you heard of ibn Taymiyyah (1263-1328)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Taymiyyah
Would these folks be considered socioeconomically deprived?
Mohamed Atta, educated at the Technical University of Hamburg.
Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, did undergraduate work at the London School of Economics.
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed graduated from North Carolina A&T in 1986.
Ayman Zawahiri graduated from medical school in 1974.
Hi there, here Futura from the Netherlands.
I saw your discussion.
I have no problems with the religion of diferent streamings, but the way the extreme moslims react are not right!
In the Netherlands they can build their moske’s and have there own believing.
But when christians want to build a church in their country ….you have a big problem.
The most big problem is (i think) the tollerance of these extreme moslims.
I know some moslims and have some friends among them, but they can accept the way i think and my religion.
Geert wilders is for many dutch people the hero to say that the tollerance should be equal for all religions.
I hope that the most of these extreme moslims once can understand that this is not the right way to live with other people on one planet.
All the wars ever been are a result of difference in religion.
The dutchman Futura
Where ever a Muslim government has the upperhand, Christians are being persecuted, their houses and churches burned, killed or at times tortured/raped, getting lowliest of jobs or none to get by wirh…. A converted Muslim is facing literal hell on earth, where is all this happening? In about 36 countries, mostly in Africa, Asia, Indonesia and also South America…
Tell me this is not so and I’ll give you more proof…. S
I did not say Jihad is not in Islam. Of course it is. But some people are still thinking of it in the 7th century context. The modern context of Jihad is to defend your own country against attack/invasion, etc… Ayman Zawahry and the likes are not the victims of socio-economic problems, but they are the victims or originators of a pervert interpretations of islamic teachings.
Look, the current problem is so complex, and it came up because moselms have been so weak for a few centuries, and many problems have accumulated in the social, economic, cultural, and even religious fronts. New issues came out with no good scholars to tacle them in the correct way. So some people reverted to old scholars scriptures seeking a solution not valid to the modern world.
Ibn Taymeya decalred Jihad againts Mogols because they invaded moslem countries, and actually did a lot of masacres in the countries they took. It was a self defense against attack. Please check the whole situation before judging.
All what is happening in Moslem countries regarding the intolerance or discrimination against other religions is coming from ill fanatisism, and not from Islamic teachings or spirit. It happened through out hisotry that other religions followers florished under moslem rulings.
“Ayman Zawahry and the likes are not the victims of socio-economic problems, but they are the victims or originators of a pervert interpretations of islamic teachings.”
Doesn’t the example of the prophet muhammad, and his actions, define Jihad / terrorism? I suppose the most important collection of hadith should be disregarded?
Doesn’t Sahih al-Bukhari contain over 199 references to Jihad with all of them referring to armed warfare against non-muslims? In premodern times Jihad only meant one thing, an effort to expand the territories of muslims at the expense of non-muslims. dar al-Islam vs. dar al-harb. Are not muslims encouraged to follow the example of the prophet?
What would have changed since then?
“Please check the whole situation before judging.”
Of the 78 battles in which muhammad himself was engaged, only one was defensive (the battle of the ditch). To me, that sorta blows the “inner struggle” concept of Jihad all to hell. Those unwilling to recognize it for what it is, IMHO have either fallen to, or are deceived by those practicing al-Taqiyya.
What exactly touched off the European Crusades? The muslim crusades? - Jihad? - expansionist Islam?
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/11/the_truth_about_islamic_crusad.html
Watch and see, if the movie FITNA happens to make it on television, the SHITNA will HITNA the fan…..
Hossam is downplaying the brutal mistreatmant or worse of many Christians in Muslim countries and blaming such on ‘ill fanaticism’…Then, who is in control? Isn’t it a well known fact that in a Muslim society Church and State are one? Turkey and Egypt are trying to be impartial (: in order to appease the international community. Shari law in a muslin country will be maintained under all circumstances. There is no doubt that the major goal is indeed the expansion of muslim territory and has been through the ages. Soon after Muhammed’s death, Islam conquered much of the Middle East and swept through northern Africa, crossed the strait of Gibralter , conquered Spain- over the Pyrenees into France….where they were finally defeated by Charles ‘the Hammer’ Mantel in 732 at Poitiers…
Later in the 1500’s they came from another direction, conquering eastern Europe, central Europe, the Balkans- even into Germany and Austria advancing as far as Vienna, where they were beaten back twice- last time in 1683.
Is it a small wonder that the church in Rome wanted to proclaim a crusade to put “the Holy Land” in Christian hands? Ironically, today’s crusaders are the Muslim extremists, who similarly believe that killing Americans and dying in jihad against the West will mean instant paradise. Either by the sword or massive migration. If this is not according the Quaran, then let the ‘good’ muslims speak out against it….I am listening.
Minor correction - that is not a trailer, merely a website where the film will be view-able at some point in the future.
Should probably also mention that I’m very much looking forward to the movie - I don’t agree with Geert Wilders on very much, but I applaud his courage and conviction. It is greater than that of the entire rest of the parliament combined.
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Hi all,
Freedom is the most valuable thing in this wonderful civilized world of ours.So if any one or any concept threatens that one must do its utmost to clamp it down.We had suffered 600 years with these goons.We know more than anyone else about them!
Thanks
Laxman, a Hindu in India
I am very sorry, but i can say that you do not know anything about the internal affairs of Moslem countries. Governments are in control yes, but those governments are very far from Islamic teachings. They are more more dictators than being even close to the least islamic governments. They say they rule in the name of Islam, but they are not.
Prophet Mohamed wars should be stricly seen in their context. In the 7th century war was the means of any strong community which wanted to expand their control over other parts of land. The reason have varried a lot. Roman, and Persian empires wanted more money, and influence. Moslems wanted to get their relgion known to other people. But please check the difference between the expansion of the Roman empire, and the expansion of Moselms. Roman empire persecuted and enslaved all other countries. They persecuted Christians when they were pagan, and then persecuted Orthodox, when they became Catholic. Can you ever say Chritianity encouraged persecution because of this, of course not. Islam on the other hand did not force the people of the conquered land to become Moselms. Yes, there was the Jezya tax. But didn’t any empire impose taxes??? non-moslems were not asked to defend their land when under moselm ruling. So some sort of taxes had to be in place. Jezya has no place now in the modern world.
There is a BIG difference between 7th century solutions to 7th century problems, and Islamic guidelines, and teachings. Yes, we are encouraged to follow Porphet Mohamed example. But some aspects cannot be done literally. We have to understand the aim, and follow them, not necessarliy stick to the means to them.
About Taqeya… Taqeya is only adopted by extreme sects of moslems. But i can tell you it is absolutely not encouraged by true Islam. Islam is against deception, and lies. A moslem is only permitted to lie to the enemy when in a state of war. And Moselms are not always in a state of war against non-moslems as said by many. A Moselm is at war with non-moselms only when attacked. And war does not mean terrorism to innocent people. War has strict rules and guidelines in Islam.
Please note that our own citizens are suffering from the terrorism you are speaking about. And they are moslems alright. So do not tell me if it happeneing only against non-moselms.
Finally, good moselms, and good moselm scholars are always speaking against terrorism. It is just that you are really not listening.
It seems you are only addressing the problem of terrorism but there is a difference between terrorism and persecution, which is taking place against Christians, not only in Muslim, but also in Communistic countries like China and North Korea. The secular media will totally ignores such conflicts, to be fully informed a worldwide clearer picture is given in ‘Voice of the Martyrs’, the atrocities committed in countries like Nigeria, Indonesia, Sudan, Turkey and many other countries even China and India are indescribable, it is literally the Sword against the Word, but then Jesus fortold such would happen to his followers…Neither do I hear condemnation of these despicable acts…
No we’re not addressing “terrorism”. We’re addressing Islam. Terrorism is just a bi-product of the teachings of Islam.
The countries you list: Nigeria, Sudan, Turkey are all ISLAMIC countries. Again…Islam.
Of course there are other problems around the world like China and N.Korea, but on this website, we focus our attention on what we believe is the biggest threat not only to modern civilization but the entire world. Islamic radicalism is practiced by 100 million people around the world, and many more who claim to be “moderate” still support the worldwide Jihad of Islam, even if they’re quiet about it.
Got to agree with Infildelesto, It’s about islame. Islame is the religion of slavery. The goal of islame is to make everyboy a slave to it…..any way necessary. Terror, murder, rape, slavery, kidnapping, extortion are all allowable to a “good” muslim….and these modern fanatics feel that anyone who doesn’t ascribe to that attitude is apostate. So no “good” muslim would ever be moderate. When was the last time you heard a islamic leader (not a secular suckass) condem any act of islaminazi terror?
people claim that it is Non muslims who do not understand islam and muslims and have no right to comment on it. Surely it is the other way round. Muslims cannot see beyond their own noses and realise just how oppressive islam actually is. Muslims have no capacity for reflection, introspection or self criticism. However Non muslims can see islam from a non biased view. Only non muslims can see how islam really is. We dont need to study it for a lifetime to see its influence on people.
It is deplorable that a USA based company would bend down and surrender the First Amendment rights. Network solutions has no authority under the US constitution to do this period. What about the anti Christian move “There will be blood”? Also what about any other move that a group of people don’t like? There is no way the Supreme Court can stand idle on this one.
It’s real simple, folks. Islam is the only religion in the world today that teaches and practices intolerance and conversion by force. Mohammed was a violent, brutal warrior who invented a phony religion in order to spur on his troops with visions of rewards in paradise when they die in battle while looting Arabian cities. Islam is not a religion of peace, unless you use the Nazi’s or Communist’s definition of “peace.” Perhaps the majority of Muslims are not violent, but they are sitting on the sidelines cheering on the jihadists, so that makes them all our enemy. The bottom line: it’s us or them, there just isn’t any middle ground in this case.
ISLAM is the Koran And the koran calls on the beheadings and mass killings of non-believers. There can only be peace when all non-believers of Islam are killed or converted. I for one will not bow down to this muslim threat. Islam and many muslims still live in the dark ages where woman are still seen as objects. This is why there women wear burkas. Islam is a cruel religion and MoreHamHead beheaded 600 jews himself. Muslims believe he was the pefect man and every one should be like him so yes True Muslims can and will kill non-believers for the sake of Islam. Islam wants world domination simple. The Koran Commands It. They can also lie to non-believers for the sake of this world domination. Taqeya that has been said before on here. Muslims are are war an so for Hossam can lie his socks off all he wants. I can not trust any muslim. 7th century ISLAM and MUSLIMS still live and think like that. So called “good” Muslims are speaking out about terroism? Don’t make me laugh they arn’t real Muslisms if they do not follow the Koran and MoreHamHead Which tells Muslims To Kill Non-Believers. Yet Again There Is A War Between Muslims And Non-Muslims. Muslims Decleared It. The War Is On And Muslims Can Use Taqeya To Gain The Upperhand. OPEN YOUR EYES MUSLIMS WANT YOU DEAD. You could have a muslim friend and if he is a true muslim he will cut off your head when the shit hits the fan. Terroism Is Islam.
Bottom line, islam is NOT a religion. It is a cult invented by a madman who had a delusion by himself in a cave that an angel spoke to him, and gave him permission to behead anyone who insulted him (it IS in the quran), marry a 6 year old girl and take her at 9 years old (it IS in the quran), take slaves and keep slavery alive, expand the faith either by forced conversion or murder of those too smart to submit (also IS in the quran). Ordinary muslims remain silent because they are simply employing taqqiya to lul us into the false sense of security that resulted in 9/11. Terrorism is NOT the result of American Foreign policy, as anyone with half a brain that is literate (that eliminates 95% of muslims and their apologists) can read history books and learn about islam’s terrorism vs Europe from the 8th century to the present day, including the caliphate, the berbers, and why so many spanish and portuguese words have arabic origin. All courtesy of islam’s terror campaign against the smart, civilized men of the West.
Guys Please stop this non-sense attacks on Islam and stop the hatred as well. Because this will take us nowhere in the future. the world is changing constantly and we should try to know and understand each other rather than attack and dehumanize one another. Us a Muslim living in the USA I have many great friends from different religions (Jewish, Catholics, Christians, and Buddhist…) we all hangout, party, help and love each other. None of us judge each other based on one’s religion. We are human and friends first. Peace to you all and by the way I disagree with network solutions, they have no business censoring the Internet. It is the only true freedom we have out there. So, Geert Wilderso should be able to voice his opinion without being punished or insulted.
Do not understand that islam people are burning the Dutch National Flag for a movie that has not yet been published at all. And at the same time I see a lot of very sad people that claim to be islamic posting really horrible and aggressive movies on U-tube. Should we now start burning flags of Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, Turkey, Indonesia, Tsjaad, Marroco, Lybia, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Qatar….. ??? Because we as dutch people feel offended? We do not do that in such a way, that is probably the difference between European Democratic Societies and these islamic people from these countries with their totalitarian regimes, leaning on the Koran as their guidance in fear and opression. Tha is the real problem of Islam. How it is interpreted by all these frighting countries in the world. ( By the way most leading rich sjeiks in Saudi Arabia live most of the time in the god-forbidden USA!!, in their second mansion, while they tell their “flock” in islamic S.A. not to abandon their allah, while dancing themselves in a Disco in New Yor or L.A ).
Tony,
We do not hate peaceful folk like you who adapt to your new enviromnent. What we hate is the ideology of hatred towards westerners, attacks on civilians, death threats against those who draw cartoons of mohammed, etc… I agree we are all human, but too many muslim fanatics want to dominate the world, force the people of the world to convert, submit or kill them. The very people you ask us not to hate, would kill you for being an apostate. May I ask ow long have you lived in the US, and where you came from? I am curious because you can offer more insight into what it’s like living abroad.
Islam now or never. LONGLIFE ISLAM..!
celle,
Long may your religion of Islam live, as that is a way for you to pursue happiness.
Death to your totalitarian Islamic Sharia, because it is a threat to our God-given liberty.
Death to your mass-murdering and coercing Islamic Jihad, because it is a threat to our God-given life.
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness!
celle,
I am going to say NEVER, just like the Christian Alliance did at Vienna in 1683. We beat the muslims then, and we will beat them again now.
I vote to nuke mecca, and fill the crater with pig blood. Do the same to medina.