Comments on: Acclaimed veteran psychiatrist says Liberalism is a mental disorder

By: mike

mike — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:38:51 +0000

fine, the original topic was liberalism is a mental disorder. i said “possibly, but i doubt it”. i then went on to provide several studies that suggest conservatism is a mental disorder. all i've received since is personal attacks rather than refutation of the links i provided. i'm willing to believe liberalism is a mental disorder but i need more evidence other than one book and one study. i've searched and that is all i can find.

By: hellosnackbar

hellosnackbar — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:24:14 +0000

I support your quotes on fascism;Iwas using the term liberal fascists in the sense that there is an authoritarian so called liberal dogma prevalent in europe and the USA which seeks to control the people through an unelected bureaucracy.
(Brussels being the best example)
These people have the effrontery to call themselves
liberals when their demonstrable purpose is to manage society through ever asphyxiating regulation.
When I was young and stupid I believed in this form of governmen,'but having had many unnecessary struggles with these apparatchiks
I wouldn't vote for these "dirigists at the point of a gun!"
They are self serving, souless and a drain on the GMP.
Read C Northcott Parkinson's (of Parkinson's law fame) books on the subject.
These days real liberals have had to change their name to libertarian to distinguish themselves from the hide bound ideologues of
dirigist Europe.
They are fascist in every respect except suppression of opposition.(or Stalinist if you will?)
The current Labour Party in the UK are enablers of this philosophy.
I believe that referendums as applied in Switzerland are a better model of representative democracy.
Gordon Browns sneeky ratification of the Lisbon
treaty was in my view treasonable insofar as it
ignored an election pledge.
Now we have a situation where the British people are likely to have no voice in their own destiny.
Political correctness is not a joke it's a pernicious totalitarian ideology which seeks to
punish people who voice any opposition to the status quo!
Enough already!this blog concerns itself with
the viscissitudes of the death cult.(aka Islam)
And just to refute your accusation that I am guilty of malapropisms and my over use of "big words"I've reread what I've written and see none.
It's clear that you've been googling like crazy
in order to apply your peevish diagnosis.
I'm for small government ,free enterprise and the
ruthless trimming of the public sector.
I hate interfering busybodies.
Now confine yourself to the topic under discussion.

By: mike

mike — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:38:51 +0000

By: hellosnackbar

hellosnackbar — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:24:14 +0000

I support your quotes on fascism;Iwas using the term liberal fascists in the sense that there is an authoritarian so called liberal dogma prevalent in europe and the USA which seeks to control the people through an unelected bureaucracy.
(Brussels being the best example)
These people have the effrontery to call themselves
liberals when their demonstrable purpose is manage society through ever asphyxiating regulation.
When I was young and stupid I believed in this form of government'but having had many unnecessary struggles with these apparatchiks
I wouldn't vote for these "dirigists at the point of a gun!"
They are self serving, souless and a drain on the GMP.
Read C Northcott Parkinson's (of Parkinson's law fame) books on the subject.
These days real liberals have had to change their name to libertarian to distinguish themselves from the hide bound ideologues of
dirigist Europe.
They are fascist in every respect except suppression of opposition.(or Stalinist if you will?)
The current Labour Party in the UK are enablers of this philosophy.
I believe that referendums as applied in Switzerland are a better model of representative democracy.
Gordon Browns sneeky ratification of the Lisbon
treaty was in my view treasonable insofar as it
ignored an election pledge.
Now we have a situation where the British people are likely to have no voice in their own destiny.
Political correctness is not a joke it's a pernocious totalitarian ideology which seeks to
punish people who voice any opposition to the status quo!
Enough already!this blog concerns itself with
the viscissitudes of the death cult.
And just to refute your accusation that I am guilty of malapropisms and my over use of "big words"I've reread what I've written and see none.
It's clear that you've been googling like crazy
in order to apply your peevish diagnosis.
I'm for small government ,free enterprise and the
ruthless trimming of the public sector.
I hate interfering busybodies.
Now confine yourself to the topic under discussion.

By: mike

mike — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:01:12 +0000

okay, i'll play your etymological game.
fascist-
"A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." [Robert O. Paxton, "The Anatomy of Fascism," 2004]
A political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
liberal-
c.1375, from O.Fr. liberal "befitting free men, noble, generous," from L. liberalis "noble, generous," lit. "pertaining to a free man," from liber "free," from PIE base *leudheros (cf. Gk. eleutheros "free"), probably originally "belonging to the people" (though the precise semantic development is obscure), from *leudho- "people" (cf. O.C.S. ljudu, Lith. liaudis, O.E. leod, Ger. Leute "nation, people").
Not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms.
conservative-
As a modern political tradition, conservatism traces to Edmund Burke's opposition to the Fr. Revolution (1790), but the word conservative is not found in his writing. It was coined by his Fr. disciples, (e.g. Chateaubriand, who titled his journal defending clerical and political restoration "Le Conservateur")
Tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions.
i see no way liberalism and fascism can be compatible. and conservatism can be construed differently depending on the political system of the nation or state.
now, as far as your reference to the golden rule, i believe you are the one that needs to ponder it's meaning. you call me a liberal fascist (incompatible), arrogant, one taught by fools, gibbering halfwit and faith based moron. i will hazard a guess that you would be very angry if you were called even just one of these. your misuse and overuse of "big words" only tells me what you really are.

By: hellosnackbar

hellosnackbar — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:01:10 +0000

They are liberals in the true sense of the word.
You appear to be a liberal fascist(not an oxymoron).
Liberalism means the freedom of the individual to lead his life unencumbered by the laws and byelaws promulgated by sociological quasi marxist retards.
Your breathtaking arrogance is symptomatic of kneejerk
poltical theorists who feel a pompous duty(based on nonempirical evidence)to prescribe for the rest of us that which you have been TAUGHT by similar fools.
If you have an education?then read through the turgid
claptrap of post modernist deconstruction to understand what a gibbering halfwit you actually are.
If you think about it, you are a FAITH based moron like
the islamic tits we deride here.
Look up etymology Mike!!
It helps one to understand what a correspondent is trying to convey.
True liberals are in fact conservatives who wish to CONSERVE that which is right and just(within the common law) without any other interfering ideology;
to tarnish their happiness,.and sense of moral fair play.
I feel so humbled that you replied to my missive.
The golden rule Mike;!absorb what it means!

By: mike

mike — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:15:26 +0000

“Barry Goldwater,Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher are examples of this type of reality liberal.”
they're liberals? really? and i'm supposed to take your definition of liberal or conservative as truth? as stupid as your statement is i really don't know why i just wasted my time replying to it.

By: hellosnackbar

hellosnackbar — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:58:32 +0000

Mike if you read the past comments by my esteemed co- commenter
Storm Rider he defines very succintly what liberals and conservatives are!
Real conservatives are in fact liberals who are untarnished by the
PC gobbledeygook of Marxist morons like Herbert Marcuse and other filth of the former Frankfurt school.
Barry Goldwater,Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher are examples of this type of reality liberal.
As Storm Rider so frequently tells us the founding fathers got it absolutely right(and I'm not an American).
After many years of pondering I'm inclined to agree with him; around the100 percentile area.

By: mike

mike — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:20:36 +0000

1- your definition of "true conservatism" is just that, yours. i'm going by the commonly accepted usage as is the researchers of the linked reports.

2- i agree, many right wingers (conservatives) are fascists just as many left wingers (liberals) are communists.

3- you rail at conservatives being judged as a group rather than as individuals yet you have done just he same by calling liberals mentally deficient. hypocrite. if all liberals are mentally deficient then please explain why there are more self described liberals with college educations than conservatives. yes, i know, a degree is not an accurate measure of intelligence (hence the phrase "college educated idiot") but one cannot be, as you say, "mentally deficient" and earn a degree.

4- to imply liberals do not hold the values and ideals of the constitution in high esteem is a great example of one way, blinders on thinking. both sides of the fence have done much damage to the constitution but you imply only liberals do. the military is and was full of liberals like me. hell, most people i met while stationed at pope afb were socially liberal and financially conservative.

By: Kal_El

Kal_El — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:33:55 +0000

Oops! I missed it, as I do not always see each comment. I get them in my
inbox and reply from there.

Regarding your posts, you are way off the mark. True Conservatism has
nothing to do with the right wing. Right wingers are fascists, like the
Nazi's and the 1930's Italians(think Qadaffi). They are the extreme opposite
of left wingers, i.e. socialists/communists, like Hugo Chavez, Evo Morales
and their ilk. True Conservatives hold the ideals of the Founding Fathers in
the highest esteem. Those values are what have made the United States the
greatest nation in the history of the world. Calling that a mental disorder
is akin to responding "No I'm not, you are!" when someone calls you
something derogatory, despite it possibly being the truth (i.e. liberals
being mentally deficient).