Islamic blogger explains how Islam will dominate America

by Infidelesto on March 10, 2008 · Comments

I came across this post tonight by an Islamic blogger who, today, tried his best to explain how Islam will dominate the world. If there’s any doubt about what Islam’s plan for the world is, then start here.

First he explains why the West won’t embrace Islam:

Why would the disbelievers and hypocrites hate for Islam to be implemented? Simply because they do not wish for their corruption, evil, crime, cheating, oppression, dishonesty, fraud, lies, tyranny, freedom, and deception to come to an end, and for justice (Islam) to prevail.

Did you catch that? Yes he said the West does not want FREEDOM TO COME TO AN END. There is no freedom in Islam. What a wonderful and desirable religion.

He then explains the 3 ways that Islam can dominate the world:

Therefore there are three main ways in which a state or country can become Daar ul-Islam (the domain of Islam):

  1. The majority of its citizens embrace Islam and implement the Sharee’ah on their own accord
  2. A group of Muslims rise, overthrow the government and implement the Sharee’ah by force (coup)
  3. The Islamic state carries out Jihad as its foreign policy and removes the government

“Rule by what Allah has revealed (the Qur’aan and Sunnah) and do not follow their vain desires, but be aware of them lest they turn you far away from some of that which Allah has sent down to you…” (EMQ al-Maa-idah, 5: 49)

If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizyah (tax). If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them…” (Saheeh Muslim #1731)

He then concludes with explaining how Islam will eventually dominate America and Britain.

So how will Islam dominate the world? Most likely by force! If the people do not embrace Islam and implement the Sharee’ah on their own accord, it becomes an obligation upon the Muslims to fight and implement Islam. In countries such as Britain and America, their people have clearly rejected to embrace Islam and will never choose to live by the Sharee’ah.

Therefore, the only two ways in which these countries can become under the domain of Islam is by the last two options, a group of Muslims rise and overthrow the government, or an Islamic state is established elsewhere and comes to conquer these nations.

Is there any doubt of the threat we face? Or is this just some random radical who misrepresents Islam?

 

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  • oomyaaqub
    I don't know whether or not this person "misrepresents Islam". He certainly misrepresents the branch of Islam I am personally acquainted with; when I was pregnant, unemployed, my baby's father also unemployed, and utterly desperate, a bunch of Muslimas decided to help me although they knew I am Jewish. Their take on things was that as long as you are one of the "Peoples of the Book" (Jewish, Christian, or Muslim) you are okay. Granted, they were probably less tolerant of Hindus, but then I lived in Virginia, not India.

    Islam's big problem is that it has not yet passed through the equivalent of the Enlightenment. I hope such a thing is possible, and soon. Individual Muslims can be the world's finest people, but the religion itself desperately needs to modernize.
  • Lars
    To underestimate the American Man is a handicap!
  • maliken76
    mohammed was a pig and his wife wafa was a chicken and look what popped out a muslim turd1!
  • Ben
    There's a third way via Islamic-creep, which is to advance Islam by developing gradual inroads into an existing society so as to infringe upon or supplant the existing culture, language and values.

    http://onislamicfascism.wordpress.com/2009/10/2...
  • migueljs16
    I know 4 muslims, atleast who have told me

    3 of them are completely secular, they actually are more atheist than Muslim, just their religion heritage I guess
    The other is a bit of a nut, with his wife, and his mother with that burka, looking like a ninja

    I hate how they can screw up in the ass while for them, every little thing is a riot and a last straw...
    I wish we just did business with these people, and leave them to their fate in their shitty country
  • Das
    The way Islam will take over is clear as day. They know they could never win a war against the combined west with military strength, but they dont need to. Muslims are emigrating into every non-muslim nation and having babies like mad (average 6+ per family), while the local populations are struggling to maintain their populations (falling short of the necessary 2.1 birth rate ratio needed).
    The people's of europe will soon become minorities in their own nations, and in less than 50 years, muslims will have effectively taken over their enemies. The US will not be far behind, but likely will be destabilized from within.
    Is there any way to stop this? Will people just laugh at anyone who suggests this idea? I really dont know how we can avoid this short of sparking a religious war worldwide, but its happening and I think people need to be aware of it.
  • Jeffrey
    Oh, how lovely! Typical journalist aren't you? "Did you catch that? Yes he said the West does not want FREEDOM TO COME TO AN END. "

    Why are you nick-picking? The Muslim you interviewed also said "Did you catch that? Yes he said the West does not want FREEDOM TO COME TO AN END. "

    Why ignore the rest? Why ignore the point he IS trying to make?

    You call yourself Anti-Jihad? More like Anti-Islam you racist fuck.

    Not one extremist Muslim speaks for the other. (There are over 1.5 billion muslims in the world, only a small fraction resort to terrorism.).
  • JEWHAWK
    Jeffrey,I am ANTI-ISLAM.

    I can't be friendly to a hideous ideology whose sole purpose is to
    CONQUER and KILL people like ME.It's about my very SURVIVAL
    we're talking about,not a mere rhetorical matter.

    Gee,HOW MANY terrorists do exist within a "small fraction" of a 1,5 BILLION ?
    Was that a SMART remark?
    Remember that only took about 20 muslims to destroy the World Trade Center's
    twin towers...

    Is ISLAM a "RACE"?

    If it is,PROVE it,JERK.
  • Kal_El
    Jeffrey,

    How is being against an ideaology (islam, in this case, and the violence
    inherent therein) racist? Are muslims now one race? You say there are 1.5
    billion muslims. I have read that the number is 1.1 billion. Okay, fine. But
    there are also 5 billion NON-muslims. And you do not see large numbers of
    those 5 billion blowing themselves up for Jesus, Buddha, Marx, Mao, etc...
    The opposite is true of islam.You say only a small fraction resort to
    jihad. Even if it is 1%, that is still 1.5 MILLION jihadists. Yet where does
    that small fraction get their funding? Ever heard of zakat? And why does
    that fraction that does not resort to jihad do NOTHING along the lines of
    condeming said jihad?

    Have you ever lived in a muslim country? I have.
  • jeffrey1001
    Kal_El,

    Sure not all Muslims are one race, but I've been looking around this blog and the comments I've read towards ALL Muslims is terrible, it's pathetic. Call it ethnicism or whatever you want. I call it hatred toward Muslims. At first I thought this blog was just about the extremist Muslims and how you guys hate them, but I thought wrong. This isn't about how you hate extremist Muslims this about how you guys hate Muslims in general.

    There are actually Non-Violent Muslims that condemn the actions of Violent Muslims. I figured you'd know that on your own but, oh well. My dad being one. I am a Palestinian-American, and he is for a two-state solution, he calls the actions on both fronts (Israeli & Palestinian) pointless.

    There are crazy Christians that do resort to violence, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
    There are crazy Jews that manipulate people in this case, and are a cause for violence.

    Mao killed about 50 - 70 Million people, so bringing him up and saying his followers don't commit violence is kinda stupid.

    ...Islam is always under the microscope, One Muslim kills someone. The media calls him a terrorist. A Christian, Jew, etc.. kills someone. The media calls him a murderer.

    Bias or a plot to destroy Islam, Not sure. Either, Or.

    Cheers,

    Jeffrey

    (And Yes, I have lived in a Muslim country. I lived in Jordan, Palestine and parts of Saudi Arabia. I was born and raised in America, though. I just go to the Middle East as a vacation.)

    Have you ever met or talked to a Muslim? Because the idiots on here that say 'Every Muslim hates everyone that isn't Muslim', would be proven wrong once they do meet a Muslim. I, myself am a Muslim and I don't support the extremist beliefs of the terrorists. I am respectful towards all religions so are my parents. My parents raised me not to hate (Because it's Haram [A Sin] ) , but I still get hated on. Why? Because I'm a Muslim. You say Christians and Jews are tolerant towards other religions, if so then why am I getting picked on by both Christians and Jews because I'm a Muslim?


    Why do the Jews always make a big deal out of anti-semitism, but then some Jews still see the need to make fun of other religions? Hypocrisy? Yes.

    .....Need I go on? (I'm 14 years old, And the way I know how racism hurts at this age, is unbelievable. I've been assaulted both verbally and physcially, simply because I'm a Muslim. Thanks for contributing to the hatred).

    Have fun.
  • hellosnackbar
    I'm sorry to hear that you've experienced discrimination.
    There's a principle known as guilt by association,
    Simply put:You are a Muslim; and other Muslims seek to coerce we "ignorant"infidels into following the teachings of your psychopathic,illiterate,murdering prophet into accepting the
    corrosive ideology as stated in your terrorist manual the Qran.
    That statement is not hate ;but demonstrable fact.
    Ask yourself why you live in America??
    It's because America with freedom of expression and thought is logically a better place than some Muslim hell hole ruled by the ignorant third raters;who believe that any means
    to advance Islam is justified.(ask your parents to tell you the truth about their immigration).
    We make fun of Islam because it is so very silly and dangerous;and because its tenets
    are uncivilised.(lampooning idiocy is part of our culture).
    If people laugh at you because you're Muslim ;then ask yourself why?
    And arrive at the conclusion it's because you are identified with a sick death cult that
    has ambitions to enslave us all to the supposed mandate of imaginary Allah.
    Ask yourself why Israelis are far smarter than their semitic cousins?
    Islam is backward and totalitarian.
    The reason why Muslim nations are so unsuccessful is due to the dead hand of Islam.
    So,grow up and return to the ME as a radical leader; who will eradicate Islam and turn the benighted victims of a silly ideology into first world prosperous happy people.
    Curiously I've always been fascinated by the fact that wherever they are Jews make a massive success of their situation.
    The penny finally dropped when I was party to an argument amongst religious Jews on
    the meaning of principles in the Torah.
    This discussion was extremely heated and the debate was that of smart, articulate youngsters.
    Jews learn to argue and analyse at a very early age!
    Muslims do not(it's haram!).
    Thinking people are smarter people!
    QED
    JH you might like to add to this?
    BTW look up the the principles of reasoned argument and get to know the fallacies of :
    tu quoque ,strawman etc.
    It will stop you making a twat of yourself when posting here!
    All the best!
  • jeffrey1001
    I think you're mistaking culture with religion. Al-Qeada and other terrorist groups refuse to let their countries be 'Westernized'.

    I won't add Hamas and Hezbollah in that group as they're simply fighting for their country. There's a difference.

    Let me put it this way, Hamas/Hezbollah suicide bomb for their country while the others suicide bomb for.. their own interpretation of Islam.

    My parents didn't come to America for more freedom (When I was in Palestine, I had more freedom than in America). My parents came to America to take advantage of the opportunities this country offered. And luckily enough, my father now owns a chain of beauty supply stores, in 3 different cities.

    I'd label myself as a youngster that has learned to argue/analyze at an early age. I have been ever since 9/11. I'm 14 years old now.
  • JEWHAWK
    "I am a Palestinian-American" ("Jeffrey")

    And I am a KLINGON-BRAZILIAN.

    "...this about how you guys hate Muslims in general"

    As far as I'm concerned,you're right.I do HATE muslims in general.

    "I lived in Jordan, Palestine and parts of Saudi Arabia. I was born and raised in America, though."

    I do NOT recognize such places.They are British-invented entities with funny names and a "national" flag above,just that.
    They are monuments of the British greedy colonial past.
    Had the INFIDELS didn't dicover OIL in that region,you'd still be living in the DESERT,making love to CAMELS and GOATS.
    You were born and raised in America ?New York City's RATS,too...All of them are "born and raised" in America.

    HAVE FUN.
  • jeffrey1001
    I see no need in commenting on this blog any longer. As you people aren't going to change my views, I'll just live day by day proving that Muslims aren't murderous idiots.

    Just one thing caught my interest... " I do NOT recognize such places"

    Read this.

    Written by Ryan Dawson.

    http://rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php...
  • Beejj
    And there you have it in a nutshell, Jeffrey: you steadfastly refuse to have your views changed. Yup, you're a Muslim, alright. Great to be young, isn't it? Dylan's words come to mind: "Ah, but I was so much older then; I'm younger than that now."
  • jeffrey1001
    Why shall I continue debating with people that don't contribute to the conversation, other than saying "Muslims should die".

    I may be young, but I'm very intelligent for my age. Don't hold me back just because, I'm a Muslim.

    Try not to stereotype.
  • Beejj
    Hold you back? Jeffrey, that is the last thing I would want to do. I think it's wonderful that you, a young fellow, has the guts and appetite for debate to defend what you believe in, even if I KNOW you are wrong. You tell me not to stereotype, and you are right in believing that such a practice is reprehensible, but my battle is with Islam and its enslavement of the human mind. (Indeed, I confess that I am prepared to battle ANY religion, for they are all mortal enemies of reason.) But in order to engage in such a battle I have to joust with its followers, all of whom have been tarnished since birth, poor things. So, stout-hearted young man, don't leave us. Say your piece but be prepared to consider what others write, even when you find some of it unsavoury or hostile. Ask yourself: WHY the hostility? Here's a final thought for you. Let's hypothesise for a moment. Let's imagine a day when you might wish to turn your back on Islam. What then? Incredibly, you will risk incurring the death penalty! Phew!!!
  • hellosnackbar
    Stay Jeffrey,despite your tender years you at least write in good English.
    Take the heat and stand your corner(it'll make a man of you) and I can guarantee you one thing you'll know more about the vagueries, whims,crochets and outright madness of Islam than you'll ever learn from some bearded halfwit down your local madrassa!
    IAC is a valuable education!
    Stop bumping your head against the floor in submission to ever wrathful Allah
    and learn how wonderful the world is without the pernicious and baleful filth of Islam,
  • jeffrey1001
    Again, Why should I stay and debate with people that only contribute to the conversation by saying incredibly horrid comments such as; "I hate Muslims, they should all die".

    There's violence in every religion. Try to look passed the violence, and look at the good religion is the cause of. That's why I won't have my views changed.

    My life with Islam is wonderful. Despite the pain I have received for the person I am, A Muslim. It has made me stronger, it's what made me an intelligent person.

    ..Without Islam, I'd just be, well not sure.

    Can't believe I said that, but it's true. Sad, but true.

    Also why should my comprehension to the English language matter? What is that another stereotype towards Muslims? They can't type/speak proper English?

    ...How lovely.

    In my family and most Muslim families I've met, education is a main priority.
  • Odyssia
    What decided you to become a Muslim? I am a girl, so tell me why I should consider converting to Islam. How would I benefit from it?
  • JEWHAWK
    [other than saying] "I hate Muslims, they should all die".

    I just said that I hated muslims.If they must die it's none
    of my business,as long as they don't kill themselves
    as SUICIDE-BOMBERS (an ISLAMIC TRADITION)
    killing us,infidels,in the process.

    "There's violence in every religion"

    Don't you compare your DEATH-CULT also known as "islam"
    with Judaism and Christianism.If violence is the subject,
    there's no way muslims could lose this contest.

    "My life with Islam is wonderful"

    I'm thrilled with your experience.Maybe,if you were a girl,
    your opinion regarding "islam" would be "different".

    "That's why I won't have my views changed."

    My kind,respectful and loving thoughts about "islam" also haven't changed.What a coincidence...

    "Hamas and Hezbollah ... they're simply fighting for their country. There's a difference."

    Sure.A muslim explanation to justify the bombings of Pizza Parlors,Hotels,Cafés and buses in Israel...
    The Israeli Embassy and the AMIA bombings both in Buenos Aires proved the "difference",huh?

    Jeffrey,you do belong to the LOWEST kind of humans on Earth.
    FILTH...SCUM...RIFF-RAFF...MUSLIMS.
  • Beejj
    If your life with Islam is wonderful, you are assuredly a male. Islam has made you intelligent? Clearly, you have no idea of what intelligence means: don't confuse intelligence with knowledge. Islam fosters knowledge of all things Islamic, but is blind to the knowledge so avidly sought by Jews and others, which is why the Jews, unlike Muslims, have contributed so enormously to the growth and spread of academic excellence and scientific/technological advancement. Don't take pride in your stubborn refusal to have your views changed, for you only display the fact that you are an incurable victim of dogma. You have pride in being intellectually enslaved to risible superstition? And please refrain from telling us how intelligent you are. "How vain is man who boasts in fight the valour of gigantic might." Let us, your readers, evaluate your intelligence.
  • JEWHAWK
    "I see no need in commenting on this blog any longer"

    Finally I agree with you.


    "proving that Muslims aren't murderous idiots."

    I never accused muslims of being idiots.

    "...Islam is always under the microscope"

    It's because VIRUSES only could be seen that way.Extremely small but also extremely vicious.

    HAVE FUN.
  • jeffrey1001
    How cute.

    Anyways,

    You've ignored my previous comment twice already.

    Read this.

    Written by Ryan Dawson.

    http://rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php...
  • Beejj
    No, Jeffrey, it's not Muslims per se, but Islam itself that is the focus of our concern. Your Auntie Fatima and Uncle Abdullah might be harmless old fogeys, but there are rather too many Islamic murderous fruitcakes at large to ignore, and it is abundantly clear to the meanest understanding that the rantings of your prophet are the cause of their malevolence. Those of us outside your faith also take a dim view of your religion's treatment of women, but you - a callow youth - might have to grow up a bit before you appreciate their plight. And you wonder why Islam is "always under the microscope"? Clearly, your education is far from complete, but if you take the trouble to read the hundreds of articles listed on this site, courtesy of Infidelesto and Kal, you will be well on your way along the path to understanding.
  • JEWHAWK
    "Your Auntie Fatima and Uncle Abdullah might be harmless old fogeys"

    Beejj,thousands of Aunties Fatimas and Uncles Abdullahs DONATING
    money to HAMAS and HEZBOLLAH could do an unprecendent damage
    to Israel.
    Terrorists need friends.
    Those friends could support terrorists by providing money,food,hideouts,medicine,
    public relations,religious motivation and justification,favorable media coverage...
    A suicide-bomber is only the very tip of the islamic scimitar.
    Those friendly folks could be very far from being harmless.
  • MariaLouisa
    Thank you for keeping us educated...and yes (to the Muslim who commented here) SOME statements in the Koran are peaceful - but most are not. And the statements of Mohamed, made once he was a warlord, cancel out his peaceful statements made earlier.

    jihadwatch.org has some good commentaries on the Koran. Mohamed himself was very concerned that he had been possessed by the devil when the first being tormented him. And then a priest died- "Oh it was the angel Gabriel - and the priest died the next day.
    The passage does not read "angelically."

    Mohamed needed to say - right then - with force and conviction: "Get the behind me satan!"

    But he didn't - and therein lies the problem. And here we all are..."By there fruits ye shall know them."
  • MarianoApologeticus
    zhann,

    EvilBible.com is Dead

    Large portions of evilbible.com have been considered, dissected and declared
    fallacious on very many levels.

    Two examples of this fact are as follows:

    Whilst besmirching the Bible for allegedly commanding rape evilbible.com,
    for some odd reason, neglects to mention the most relevant biblical text
    related to the biblical view of and law about rape. Why this omission? Who
    knows, but it would certainly have gotten in the way of a good session of
    emotive expression of prejudice-it would have discredited evilbible.com to
    reference this most important text. Indeed, those annoying little facts have
    an annoying way of getting in the way of good fallacious assertions.

    Whilst besmirching the Bible for allegedly commanding human sacrifice
    evilbible.com, for some odd reason, neglects to mention that the Bible does
    not command but condemns human sacrifice. Evilbible.com, for some odd
    reason, neglects to mention that when the Bible reports that human
    sacrifices did take place they were carried out by Gentile Pagans who were
    not worshiping the God of the Bible but various false gods. When "Jews" were
    performing human sacrifices it was only when they turned away from the God
    of the Bible and joined Gentile Pagans in worshiping various false gods.
    Yet, in typical militant activist atheist fashion, evilbible.com does not
    condemn Gentile Pagans but only condemns the Jews.

    Further evidence of this is found at this URL:

    http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/07/evilb...
  • me
    This is ridiculous. This blogger needs a vacation and a blunt.
  • Islam will eventually rule the world because they are the only culture currently populating enough to continue growth of the culture, they are also the number 1 populating culture immigrating and the number one immigrant culture in EVERY major country, including ours, research it...
  • barbara Godding
    America turning into a Islamic state when hell freezes over NO way that menas women have to be veiled .
  • Love
    I will fight till my death for Christian. Shot me, torture me & kill me but I am still a Christian.
  • JEWHAWK
    Love: "... Shot me, torture me & kill me..."

    The probabilty of what you've said actually occur is 100%.

    I'm sorry,but this is the future,in this case,the END of the Western
    Civilization as we know it.

    Watch "PLANET OF THE APES" and you'll have a glimpse of what I
    mean.
  • hellosnackbar
    Planet of the Apes!!!! most apposite point you've ever made JH!
    I'll remember that one!
    Roddy MacDowell would love the joke!
  • guy
    I can assure you that thanks to the Second Amendment, millions will rise up and defend the Liberty of this great country that values freedom over religious zealots like fanatical islam.

    Tolerant Americans who love freedom, guaranteed, will fight back--we are not the scared sheep one sees in Europe, who are too scared to stop these who take rights away.

    I suggest that radical islam remember the resolve this country exhibited to defeat Nazism and Japan. Live peacefully and coexist with respect and tolerance....it's in everyone's best interest. I promise you, Americans will NOT idly stand by and let them destroy our freedoms.
  • Ismail
    Islam is made up of whatever is Evil on the earth.
    Mohammad created this character Allah for his self interest.
    Now human race is going in the opporite direction due to islam.

    Poor muslims give up their brains at very early age, and become lifetime threat to mother earth.

    God save USA, UK now.

    BTW, is there any efficient way to elliminate islam from earth in first place ?
  • Kal_El
    There is but it is an UGLY choice.
  • This is just disturbing and very scary. And people think that this is not a violent religion and it is. Yes some Christians have done aweful things in the name of God. But the Bible does not say to kill everyone who does not believe in it. I think we are under a threat from this religion. Great post.
  • Bob
    Well Ragboy,

    You are correct that the great WEST does not want freedom to end and the only way for that pipe dream to work. You will have to kill ever red blooded AMERICAN. You cannot defeat us ever, even now you use a cowards means to fight. If your religon is true, why do you have to kill to receive the blessings of heaven? You believe that I am going to hell. I will see you there and kick you arse forever !!!!!!!!!!!
  • jade
    Beej, Jesus said to greet each other with a greeting of peace. In Islam, this is asalamu alaikum. How obedient the Muslims are to Jesus, if you understood!!!

    Yes, Beej, in a world of lies, the TRUTH does appear to be insane. You are perceptive!
  • Beejj
    Didn't the guys who flew the planes into the Twin Towers say something like that in their final moment?

    Muslims obedient to Jesus??? Did Jesus tell people that killing in his name was a just act? Did Jesus say that the testimony of one man is equivalent in value to that of two women? Did Jesus OK polygamy? Did Jesus encourage his followers to conquer by the sword? Did Jesus promise those who died in his name 72 virgins in Paradise? Did he say that those who turned from believing in him should be put to death? Did he proclaim poetry and music to be unchristian? I could go on, but I'll let others continue.
  • jade
    By the way, everyone should stop eating pig meat. Pigs are genetic breeding grounds for mutant viruses. Countries that consume pork have millions of pigs living in proximity to human beings, and their excrement travels even farther afield. Not eating pork was mandated in the Bible and again in the Qur'an. Even some Christian denominations uphold the ban. Christians mistakenly think the pork ban was lifted by Christ, but there are end times prophecies in the Bible talking about the enemies of Israel having the "forbidden meat" in their teeth, so clearly the ban was never lifted. Jesus only killed one type of creature in all of the New Testament: A horde of THOUSANDS of pigs being raised by apostate Jews. By casting the demons into the pigs, Jesus caused the deaths of the pigs. He expressed no regrets about the loss of pig life, nor did he make any apologies to the angry (apostate Jewish) owners of the drowned pig herd. Muslims believe from their prophecies that upon Jesus' RETURN TO EARTH TO RULE (YES, ISLAM TEACHES THAT, AS WELL AS THE VIRGIN BIRTH OF JESUS!!) Jesus will kill all of the pigs. Anyone fearing for their life from swine flu should appreciate that right about now. So people thought they had God "figured out" --that it was just pig parasites causing the Bible to forbid that meat, and went ahead and bred millions of pigs and ate their flesh "well-done," and now we see that there is much more to the story and why the Bible should not be taken lightly, if you want LIFE.

    Notice when Paul had his vision about the clean and unclean, he did not go out and get a pork bbq sandwich as a result-- he went to the house of a Gentile, which had been forbidden to him as a Jew as "unclean" because the Gentiles were heathen-- "dogs" as Jesus called them. But of course Jesus was testing consciousness, and demonstrating-- by metaphorically calling a non-Jewish woman seeking his help a dog-- that faith can cause even "dog-people" to evolve into spiritual "children" of God. Case in point: he then honored her humble response, "even dogs can eat the children's crumbs that fall to the floor," by saying she had great faith and her request for healing would be granted. Know Jesus, and you will understand Muhammed better. Ask yourself, as a Christian, what you would HONESTLY think if someone told you that Muhammed called a non-Muslim a dog... then remember that the man you call "Savior" did so to the non-Jew. God does not mince words. Jesus also pointed out that people, like dogs, return to their own "vomit"-- a figure of speach Jesus chose regarding people's inability to leave their own sin and ignorance for God's Way. What if I told you that Muhammed had said that? Christians would call him all kinds of disgusting things, as proof that he was no prophet of God. Look at Jesus and learn God's ways, people! Then Islam will not seem so strange to you. Muslims can corrupt Islam as easily as Christians can corrupt Christianity, Jews can corrupt Judaism, and so on. It is very important for everyone to look at the scriptures for themselves and ask for enlightenment about them from the Divine. Misguided human examples in any religion can turn us away from the very lessons that we need to be "saved"-- body, mind, and soul. When you find that essentially all THREE religious sources are anti-pig, the wise will likewise refrain from porcine assocations.
  • Necrowulf
    I was looking for this posts, because I couldn't stop laughing from the preview quote that i saw.

    Jade, please, don't use any scientific knowledge, it is really not your forte. Pork is quite hygienic, in fact they prefer cleanliness. Secondly, any meat can give a disease pork or not, but also vegetables. Like the meat must be well cooked, the vegetables and fruits must be well washed.

    Did quran know that? Did alah even mention any of this? Of course not... he is a illiterate on everything!
  • Beejj
    Mutant viruses. Gosh, that sounds SO scientific! Someone had better tell the Chinese this quick smart, since they eat so much pork. Your willingness to believe the poison that was force-fed into your trusting mind when you were an infant is testimony to the efficacy of religious dogma and its paralysing effects. You are a disciple of evil, Jade, but you have become so much a part of that evil that your eyes are forever shut to it. But please continue to write such nonsense.
  • jade
    Christians seem to think Jesus came to set them free. He did, but only to make them love-slaves of God and Christ... not to turn them into "freedom-loving" libertine party animals, abortionists, homosexual paraders, bosom-juggling "beauty" contestants, and so on.

    Gnashing their teeth outside Heaven's Gates are liars, murderers, drug-users, worshippers of falsehood, and the sexually immoral. These are not ISLAM's rules (except that they are!! surprise!!) they are the rules of Jesus Christ, the Lamb who returns to deliver the WRATH OF GOD against an unbelieving world. A world punished for SIN. Sin, a concept that Americans have forgotten as they worship their own desires and call it a God-given right to freedom. That is the deceiver's ploy-- make you think that living an unholy life is what you are entitled to do by virtue of being an American.

    When God delivers wrath upon wrath upon the world, causing the deaths of billions, it is because they fail to acknowledge God's existence and their own relationship to creation in view of that reality. It is not ISLAM passing the judgment in the Book of Revelation... and yet, look around-- Islam is like a warning preview of the wrath to come-- but instead of heeding it, people mock and resist its message of submission to the God of Abraham, the God of Jesus, the God of Muhammed.

    Speaking of Revelation, a large, CUBE-SHAPED city descends from Heaven, it is 1400 miles long, wide, and HIGH. It anchors atop mountains now towering over the Holy Land, and casts its shadow along the Arabian Peninsula--- overshadowing the cube-shaped worship site of Islam, the Ka'abah, which Muslims say was designed as a miniature model of a city in the heavens. Now, who is mocking? Who is laughing? Truth is One, whether it be expressed in the Torah, the Bible, or the Qur'an. You cannot escape it, no matter how many homosexual judges sit in judgment as "good Christian women" parade half-naked in front of millions for fame and money to represent this God-forsaking land, America, who has forgotten that she was founded based on belief in a Creator God and Divine Law that supercedes the laws of man (Read the Declaration of Independence)-- otherwise, if we do not believe the very basis for our independence, and we no longer want to honor our national pledge of allegiance to be "one nation, UNDER God," then let's apologize and return our land to Mother England. Oops, but most of you complain that England is going Muslim...how ironic... I guess God is gonna getcha one way or another!

    Abortion kills about 3000 American lives PER DAY, EVERY DAY. Show me any Muslim doing that to us. We went to war over 3000 in one day, but we kill that many ourselves, every day. So what do we do about the enemy within? Hypocrites, Jesus would say. If you care about American lives, then tell your President, as he would just as soon seen every baby aborted, anywhere in the world, at any stage of gestation, if its life "inconveniences" anyone. Looking for murderers? Look under the US flag. God does.
  • Beejj
    When did you escape the lunatic asylum, Jade? I hope they catch you soon.
  • JEWHAWK
    Why the mainstream media don't show this HARD EVIDENCE of how
    muslims are a MORTAL THREAT to our society?
  • slomo
    everyone know mohommed enjoyed having sex with farm animals, especially pigs! he couldnt get enough ofit!good muslums are dead ones. there are more of us then them and we will boil them alive in boiling hot bacon grease. a giant jihad againt all muslimsssss
  • jeffrey1001
    Are you an idiot? You're against Jihad and Muslim terrorism.. And you would still suggest the thought of killing all Muslims?


    .....That's terrorism.
  • spootnik
    I lived among u, you followers of that basterdised religion. you f-----n devil worshipers, suffer like you do. you pigs.you respect the rapist mohmood more than God. You hipnotised pricks
  • USpace
    .
    No matter how many terrorist attacks there are, and no matter what groups carry them out, we must never fear, resist or mock the precious and ever peaceful Islam. Who are we to say that raping 9 year-olds is immoral? Who are we to say that stoning gays and rape victims to death is evil?

    Who are we to say that killing hundreds of people every month in the name of Allah is the height of evil? That is just their culture and ideology and it MUST be respected. Morality is all relative, we must remember that.

    Amazing Anti-Jihad Music here:
    http://www.weaponofmusicaldefense.com/general/pla...
    .
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe wants
    all planets Islamic

    Earth is one of many
    in process of conversion

    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe wants
    many Taliban planets

    stonings and be-headings
    billions served daily

    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    allow Islamic conquest

    enjoy the dhimmi life
    of second class citizens

    .
    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    convert the infidels

    or make them pay a tax
    if they don’t want to die
    .
    http://www.lulu.com/content/2457373
    .
    http://absurdthoughtsaboutgod.blogspot.com/2008/0...
    .
    All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech there can be no real freedom.
    .
  • Richard de Meath
    There is only one God and Jesus is his Son!
    The way to the Father is through following the teachings of his Son, this is an eternal and unchangable truth!
    All other prophets who teach contrary to this belief are in holy error.
  • Kal_El
    I would. ;)
  • Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
    1. Jesus Christ
    2. The American G. I.
    One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
  • hellosnackbar
    It was given to me by a now deceased friend.He explained that he'd bought a hard back koran and had it rebound in fine pigskin at a London bookbinders and it cost hin £50 in the late 80s.
    I wouldn't try that in the middle east.
  • Templars
    Bravo...... Templars.
  • Templars
    Bravo...... Templars.
  • yes,Islam is coming to dominate the world,in fact it has done most part of europe.
  • Have no fear
    Beej, To me an Atheist thinking like these is nothing new.

    Well, yes there is nothing wrong for "learned people" like you to do some wild brain storming like that, except that you should have a specific target of what you wish to understand first. Mind you when I was a lot younger I did self brain storming myself but I started by think of "emptiness and nothingness"

    I dunno about you but for me, if ONE really wish to understand all the "stuff" that you have written just like "thinking loudly" .. if you ever managed to find the answers then it should be a real bonus for YOU.

    Good luck to you Beej !!!

    Cheers

    Cheers
  • Beejj
    Have no fear, you refer to the PRECISE orbit of the moon round the earth. Um ..... do a little more reading on this, please. The moon has has an immense influence on tides, does it? Gosh, I never knew that. Thank you for telling me. I wonder if it might have something to do with gravity? You reckon? "Deadly precision to PUT the moon in its current orbit." An orbit that is changing! Some deadly precision! No true scientist would EVER invoke a "higher intelligence", so cease such nonsense forthwith. But let us return to your fabulous birds that can bombard people and elephants with deadly rocks. While we are about it, let's look at other godly miracles - religions have no shortages of them, from Mohammed's astonishing horse (the Lone Ranger's Silver pales into insignificance) to dead people coming back to life and the cessation of the earth's rotation to allow a battle to be won, etc., etc., etc. Clearly, you have no difficulty in believing this childish tommyrot. In every such case the laws of physics must be suspended in order that the miracle might occur. So, there's this God who created the universe and set it to function in accordance with his (God's) laws of physics, but he suddenly changes these laws in order to achieve a certain desired effect. After that, everything returns to normal! It is simple matter to PROVE that the sun never stood still in the sky, but retards would only say that God can do anything he likes, whenever he likes, so such proof is invalid. No bird that has ever existed would have been able to lift rocks of sufficient size to a sufficient height to kill elephants, BUT God can suddenly bestow great strength even upon sparrows, can't he? And the terrific energy generated by the birds' wing muscles in performing this task would NOT cause the birds to ignite spontaneously because God wills it not to happen. Hell's teeth, does it actually HURT to have a brain that can believe this nonsense?
    Religionists often talk about Eternity. I presume Eternity extends in both directions. So there was God, all alone for God knows how long, nothing but himself in existence (there's no Mrs God, is there?). Suddenly he must have thought. "Christ, this is boring! I know: I'll create a universe! What do I need? Um ..... atoms! Then, these can play together to form molecules, etc. Hmm ..... my atoms, then, must be made up of bits and pieces so that the appropriate inter-particle forces can come into play. How? Yup, I'll create electrical character into my bits and pieces. Better create gravitational attraction between masses while I'm about it, although this might pose a few problems one day because I might want people and their horses to fly up into the sky. But I can do whatever I like because this is my game and I make up the rules as I go. (When I want my future great prophet and his horse to ascend, I'll suspend the gravitational law, but only at the very spot where he and the horse are standing: I don't want any old Tom, Dick and Harry to come up here.) This implies, of course, that there will be living things that can reproduce. Hmm ...... that means inventing sex. Nasty stuff. I'll allow plants and all my animals to indulge in sexual activity, but just to be a devil (!) I'll give my humans all kinds of hang-ups about sex and have them look upon it as original sin: this will provide me with entertainment. Don't let anyone say I have no sense of humour. What will my humans look like? Like me, of course.
    And that's how it all "began"!
  • Have no fear
    Beej, PBUH is really Peace Be Upon Him and for your info I will always apply the same to Jesus PBUH. Quite simply it is one way that we Muslim shows respect to these revered Man of God.

    Cheers
  • Have no fear
    Hello Beej, Firstly I am not an Arab but a Muslim Asian and I have accepted Islam as my faith. I like you to know that I was also an almost a convert to Christian when I was much younger until I have met a former Christian Priest Father James Cunningham who guided me into Islam again.

    So much for my former life, I have read an article that states that the moon was much older than Earth itself so the former theory that moon was part of Earth can no longer be applied. Why yes of course! Beej you are a learnt "Professor", you should know better. a glance at your wrist watch will show the current time, days, month, year etc. Simply put those words have practical functional purposes because of the precised moon orbit around our space ship Earth ! The moon have an immense influence on the sea tide and also our Earthly climate, didn't you know that Beej ?

    One can imagine that it will took a deadly precision to put the moon in its current orbit now for the Earthly requirements. If these were astronomical explanation as expected the Scientist would used the words "Higher Intelligence" that placed the moon at its present position now ! I rather conclude that it was the works of the All Knowing Creator of the Universe.

    Tell me did you have any asteroid near miss yesterday ? Well, I'm not too worry on that if i
    am you because it is very possible that you or me will "expires" much earlier to witness the "armageddon".

    About the Meccan event that "mystified" you, I don't see that the impossibility of the event or the type of the species etc. Because for the Creator there is no such things as "Doing this task is much difficult than doing that one." The Creator only decreed (say) "Be ! and it is .." Kun fa ku

    Cheers
  • Beejj
    Have No Fear, forgive me for intruding again, but tell me why you seem to have to write PBUH whenever you refer to your prophet. Will you be smitten with a lightning bolt if you fail to do so? What does it mean? Peace Be Unto Him? Peanut Butter Undermines Health?
    Do you, a thinking adult, truly believe that story of birds dropping stones from the sky? They must have been rather large birds, yes? What species, I wonder. And there must have been rather a lot of them to vanquish an entire army. The stones must have been pretty big ones, too, in order to wreak such havoc upon elephants! I am a keen amateur ornithologist, so I'd be interested to know the answers.
    The moon was put there for our earthly requirements? Do you believe this? What about the asteroids (which pose a threat to us and our "earthly requirements")? And the stars? And all the squillions of galaxies? And how do you react to the FACT that our moon is receding and that one day it will be lost to us? But perhaps Allah will make us a new one ..... Pity he was not clever enough to get it right first time, isn't it?
    Given your failure to respond to my previous post, I do not expect a reply to this one, but perhaps - just PERHAPS - someone who shares your thinking might read these words and wonder about the irrational tripe you are brainwashed into believing.
  • Have no fear
    Jim Jones, if you thought that the prophecy was about Jesus then you will have to consider that the Israel have more than one Prophets to choose from. Why would you have to handpicked only Jesus when you have Zakaria, John the Baptist etc.They are from the Israel brotherhood alright !

    The LORD said to me: "What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them
    everything I command him. 19 If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account. Deutronomy 18:17-19

    When the Lord said to Mose "...like YOU from among their .." You should make a comparative challenge between Moses and the rest of the Israel Prophets. But since Jesus is the best choice you said, lets take a look at the acid tests.

    Jesus have only 2 similarity with Moses i.e. Both are Jews and Prophets but a lot of contradicting factors such as :

    1)Jesus is considered God but Moses is only a man, 2)Jesus have no human father but Moses have normal parents, 3)Jesus died violently on the cross but Moses had a normal demise of old age and sickness. 4)Moses managed to decree a punishment (Law) but not Jesus.... a women that had commit adultery was brought before him, but Jesus said this in response ... Those who had no sin shall cast the first stone... and nobody threw the stone including Jesus himself.

    BUT If you open up your mind to look at the "brethren side" you will have a candidate that would "fit in". For the sake of argument ... Muhammad PBUH. He fulfilled all the contradicting factors that does not fit with Jesus. Further, Muhammad PBUH always repeat words that the Angel Gabriel utters. ...I will put my words in his mouth Deutronomy 18:18

    The Words of God in the Quran whenever it is recited should and always begins with In The Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful ... that the Prophets speaks in my name..Deutronomy 18:19 and do not forget the dire warnings that the Lord said in ..Deutronomy 18:19 ...If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account. In other words ... you will have to answer to the Lord, eventually. !!!!

    You might want to rethink how to accept FAITHS after this. .....

    Cheers
  • Have no fear
    Jim Jones,
    Jim I do appreciate your lengthy explanation and most of all ur patience is just Great. If faith is the prominent issues here I do agree BUT I also need you to understand what ISLAM means. ISLAM means submission to the Will of God.
    To realize what Allah had ordained the Muslim to abide, in ISLAM there 5 pillars as follows:
    1. Spoke the Syahadah (Sincerely Accepting Allah as the only God)
    2. Performing the Solah. (5 time interval throughout the day)
    3. Fasting in the Month of Ramadan
    4. Pay alms for the poor (charity)
    5. Performing Haj ( at least once in a Muslim Life time)
    The above are the daily / annual chores of a typical Muslim. Pls note that I'm not trying to teach anybody here, just to show the significant of what Muslim does on daily/ annual basis to deserve the Terrorist label...

    Muslim have 6 spiritual Faith to abide with :
    1. Believe in Allah
    2. Believe in Allah Creation - the Angel Gabriel ...etc.
    3. Believe in Allah Messengers.
    4. Believe in 4 Books of God which include Torah, Zabur, Injil (Bible) & Quran. - Books from Moses, David (Dawood), Jesus (Esa PBUH) & Muhammad PBUH.
    5. Believe that nothing in these World will last.
    6. Believe in What (Allah as the Planner) Destiny had decreed. Good or bad.

    So to speak A True Muslim are people who have faith in Allah prominent 25 Prophets from Adam ... down to Abraham,Moses, Zakaria, Jesus and Muhammad PBUH. A majority of the the Prophets are of course the Jews.

    There are a lot of common belief between Christian and Muslim except for the Christian want to accept Jesus as the Lord and wanted to believe that Jesus had to died to redeem the SIN of all people ? What if he never died at all, even the Holy Bible state that Jesus never died on the cross. BUT all Muslims accept the facts that Jesus or Hazrat Esa will return to complete his mission.

    The facts is the TRUTH will only be realized by any individuals when one died OR when Jesus finally return .... A mortal will always remain mortal no matter what, agree ? Because logically, if Jesus really died, and he return to Earth... most of the inhabitant in hell will complaint (since they have learn the absolute truth don't they?). They will demand to be given the same opportunity and they can be good religious, pious individuals.

    UNLESS, if Jesus never died then nobody can claim anything from the Creator.... anyway whose bright idea that conclude Jesus must die. I have never seen Jesus mentioned anything in the Bible that he shall die to redeem everybody SIN. Somebody else say that
    for him ... and that's for sure.
  • Haven no fear
    Jim Jones,

    No religion will teach the follower to hurt other, as in current issues you cannot be religious but react negatively toward others at the same time. Islam can never be a pagan religion but you wanted to believe it to be pagan. Alas, much to your disappointment you can never find any sort of pictures of statue in or outside the Mosque.

    Ironically those artifacts that reflect paganic in nature can be found very obvious in the church. I'm sorry, but this is the hard facts that you will have to swallow. The Kaabah in the center of Masjidil Haram served to be the direction of focus to all Muslim during prayers. Physically, it shows unity in believe towards one direction. Spiritually, it manifest of Muslims faith of only Allah as the Creator of the Universe.

    Sure, Allah does exist ! The annual event of millions of Muslim performing the Haj are considered as Allah's guest. Historically, there were events where King Abrahah with his mighty army on elephants came to destroy Mekkah or specifically Kaabah. The incident happened in the same year Muhammad PBUH was born. Abdul Mutalib who was the grand father of Muhammad PBUH had came to see the King requesting him to spare the Meccan people life and belongings. The King may do whatever he wanted to the Kaabah as the "Owner" will protect it. The King agreed and the event can be read in Surah 105 AL FIL. The armies and the elephants were being destroyed and disintegrate by army of birds that drops down stones from the sky.

    Jim, everybody knows what the moon is, simply put it is one of the satellite that Allah creates for
    the purpose of our Earthly requirements. The moon can never be anybody God. I dunno if Jim still that it is the Muslim God, then he should consider to get his brain an immediate medical attention.
  • Jim Jones
    No Fear Correction: Genesis 18:14 should be Deuteronomy 18:14

    from Jim Jones
  • Jim Jones
    no fear --- We are not having a lesson in mathematics here but we are having Theology.
    The bible says in Deuteronomy 6:4 "The Lord ,Thy God is one LORD"
    1 The Lord
    2 Thy God is
    3 one LORD
    The word "one" here is not the word that the Jewish people use ,as in 1,2,3,
    The word "ONE" used here is the Hebrew word "ECHAD" ,which means "one in unity "
    The three Gods are one God, one in unity or God is a compound unity.
    I have told you this before .
    There is no human thought or writings here . Just what God says.

    The covenant that God had with Abraham was passed on to Sarah's son not Hagar 'son
    Genesis 17:19 God had a relationship and covenant with Abraham,Isac and Jacob and after that the children of Jacob which is the people of Israel
    This is not my personal perception this is BIBLE
    The people of Israel are God's chosen People . Not the Arabs or the English or the Americans or any other people .
    God has chosen Israel and through that Nation God has blessed the World and will
    bless the World .
    I am not interested in what Plain Truth MAGAZINE says.

    The last part of your letter seems to refer to Genesis 18:14 I think you actually are quoting from the Koran. I will tell you what The Holy Bible says;
    "The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee,of thy brethren,like unto me, unto him you will hearken."

    This was a prophesy and foretelling of the coming of Jesus Christ .

    Notice ,Moses said " from the midst of thee" The coming Prophet had to be Jewish!
    Was this an Arab nation that God was speaking to ?
    Were these people Arabs? of course not!!
    The Apostle Peter after he had received the Holy Spirit confirms that Moses was speaking
    about Jesus. Please read Acts 3:20 till end
    There is no god but Abba and Yeshua is His Son.
    Greetings Jim Jones
  • Jim Jones
    To "No Fear"
    It seems to me that you have 5 paragraphs in your last letter so I have 5 answers for you .

    1 How could Abraham possibly accept Jesus as God as Jesus was not known to him ??
    Jesus had not been born !! God's demands was and is now that we should believe Him.
    Abraham believed God , concerning the promises that He gave to Abraham.
    I told you that the Bible says that Abraham believed God and it was accounted unto him for righteousness. What religion was Abraham? He was a BELIEVER!!!
    Abraham had faith in the promises of God. That made him go to heaven

    2 Of course Abraham was neither "Judaism" nor Christian.
    He lived before the Law was given and before the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles were
    known. Abraham did what God demanded AT THAT TIME and that was to have "FAITH IN HIM' and belief Him. God still now demands Faith and believe in Him and what He says .
    No different from what it was then and now . Faith then and Faith now!!!
    God never asked and never will ask "What religion are you??" He demands FAITH.!!

    3 Yes Abraham was a mortal man and obeyed The Lord God when God said to leave Ur in Iraq
    because of the idolatry and worship of the Moon God Nanna. And He went to the Land God had promised . The Lord Jesus was the Son of God and also a man . The bible says that He humbled Himself and became a man an was obedient to God the Father. YET HE WAS EQUAL TO THE FATHER because He was God. So I agree with you both were obedient to the Father .

    4 Yes I can confidently say that a true Muslim will never go to heaven.
    I will carefully explain:
    God demands that we believe in Him and believe in what He says .
    In this period of time He tells us that Jesus is the Son of God and that there is eternal life in
    the Son. He that hath the Son hath life, he that hath not the Son hath not life. 1John5:11
    A true Muslim cannot believe in Jesus The Son of God .And He will never "HAVE " the Son .
    As a Muslim he cannot believe in the Son of God and will not receive Him in his life .
    IF HE DOES BELIEVE IN JESUS THE SON OF GOD ,HE IS NOT A MUSLIM ANYMORE!!!

    i AM NOT CLAIMING TO HAVE ANY AUTHORITY,I AM LISTENING TO WHAT GOD SAYS!

    YOU BETTER LISTEN TOO

    greetings Jim Jones





    j
  • Have no fear
    Jim Jones,

    By sheer logic 1+1+1=1 in it actual it must become three . In general most of you have accepted that as an answers is One (TF+TS+THG) whether you realize it or not. That explained why you readily accept the assorted mixtures of God script and human thought writings as one AUTHENTIC Words Of God.

    If you really think that "some" Children of Abraham had no relations with the Covenant, that was your personal perception that was very understandable to me. Then tell me what does it mean when the Bible can actually prove quite the opposite of what you actually want to believe.

    Plain Truth magazine being distributed free of charge to the Asian Muslim in the 70' did pose the prominent question WHO IS THE NEXT MESSIAH.

    That the Bible can actually prove to people the coming of Last Messenger of God. let me give you a hint. Remember when Moses ask the Lord " ...who is he ..." and the Lord answer " ..He is like unto U...He is from among your Brethren ..and He who does not read or write ... and He will Speaketh in my Name .. and whom so ever who does not not heed to what he says shall ANSWERS to ME ! "


    Cheers
  • Have no fear
    Jim Jones,

    You are actually saying Abraham does not have to accept Jesus as God to go to heaven. In other word Christian faith is not necessary as the mean to enter heaven. You did not answer my question yet of what were the religion of Abraham.

    If you could not actually confirmed Abraham was neither Judaism nor Christian then what was it ?

    Would you agree the both Abraham and Jesus are people that Submit to the Will of God?

    Heaven belongs to the Creator would you agree that it is up to the Creator discretion of who and where he will be sent after he died ? If it so saying, you have actually contradicts you own words of ".. I can confidently tell you that no true Muslim will ever ......."

    Unless if you can show proof to us that you are given authority on behalf of the Creator to decide, agree ?

    Cheers
  • yellow
    If 99% believe in nonsense, this is not a proof that they are right. This only shows how profoundly stupid they have been made
  • Jim Jones
    No Fear I would like to explain to you that The Koran cannot be God's Word. Does not matter if you think the Koran is beautiful.Does not matter how many colors you think you can see in it .
    Also Mohammad cannot possibly be a prophet of God and finally, Allah cannot possibly be God and is not the God of the Bible as the Muslims try to make out .
    You see you have to go back to the basics. You see God never had a covenant with Abraham and
    Ishmael. Ishmael was send away from Abraham's tents. Because of his hateful attitude to Isaac.
    Ishmael had no relationship with God, neither had Esau. God calls himself ,The God of Abraham
    Isaac and Jacob. The Arabs are People that partly descend from Ishmael and Esau. The Arabs have no relationship covenant or agreement with Abraham's God. Therefore God would NEVER speak to the Arabs like He did to the Jewish People.All the prophets of the Bible are ALL Jewish
    and so were the writers of the New Testament.
    For this reason Mohammad is not a Prophet of God. AND CANNOT BE A PROPHET OF GOD .
    His fruits give him away anyway .!
    Neither can Allah be a God. He is non existent and never has done anything to prove he is there.
    He is the product of old Arab idolatry and was the moon god called Nanna. He is nothing but an idol.
    When I say that God has no relationship with the Arabs ,you must understand that does not mean that God does not love the Arabs. God loves the whole world and offers the people of the whole world salvation through the Lord Jesus the Son of God who eventually will return to Jerusalem.
    Greetings from Jim Jones.
  • Jim Jones
    First of all "No Fear", If someone would ask me, what is necessary or what has one to be, or do, in order to go to heaven, I would never tell that person that he or she has to become a Christian .
    The Bible never tells us that we can have eternal life ( or go to heaven ) by being a Christian.
    The Bible tells us that salvation is obtained by believing God and what He has said.
    That is what Abraham did ,when God promised him multitudes of descendants. He believed God although Sarah was VERY old and had not given birth. God had told him Sarah shall have a child .
    Abraham also believed God's promise about the land of Canaan that his children would posses it.
    He believed God and therefore went to the land of Canaan and dwelled there.
    The Bible says that he believed God and it was accounted unto him for righteousness .Genesis 15:6. So he BELIEVED and that is why we know that he is in Heaven. This was in a period of time before Christ which we call The Old Testament Period .
    When Jesus was born and died and rose again that period of time is called the New Testament
    Period . Now again we must believe what God said in this period of time. Now God speaks to the whole world not only to Israel . And says that we have to believe on the Son of God. God says
    that Jesus is his Son and that eternal life is in His Son.1 John 5:11.
    Verse 12 says," He that hath the Son has LIFE, he that hath not the Son has not life "
    This is how a person goes to heaven by believing God and by receiving Jesus in his character
    (heart) and life . Once this happens ,that person is a Christian . NOTE !!! It says in verse 12 " He that hath the Son" If a person really believes what God says He or she will ask Jesus to COME INTO HIM OR HER !!
    Now here we have a very large obstacle for Muslims. This is just exactly what the Koran denies .
    I can confidently tell you that no true Muslims will ever go to heaven !
    The Koran and Islam is absolutely against Jesus Christ the Son of God! it is of the foretold coming
    Anti Christ and it is a product of Satan. Hope this will answer your previous question re Abraham.
    greetings Jim Jones
  • Jim Jones
    Thank you for saying that my letter to No Fear moved you. I understand what you have been saying in your letter about historic Christianity. I am glad though that you also tell me that it is not the fault of Jesus. I also have a deep love for the Jewish People.I am also very concerned about the progress
    Islam is making in the Western World .However I know this progress will come to an end and He
    (Jesus Christ) will rule ,whose right it is.Hope you will see that too one day.
    Beej I wish and pray for you the very best.
  • Jim Jones
    Very well said Beej.
  • Beejj
    They are chemistry texts, out of print, alas. My magnum opus is to come.
  • Beejj
    Have no Fear, permit me to intrude upon your argument/debate/discussion with Jim Jones. Without doubt, you and Jim could demolish me at a stroke should I be foolish enough to raise matters of Scripture, but since I consider said Scriptures to be not worth the paper they are written on, I will take a different tack.
    As an atheist I am what might be deemed an "impartial observer". Yes, I was raised as a (most inadequate) Christian, but I assure you I have shaken off the shackles of my childish superstitions. You can quote your Koran until you are blue in the face, but what is the reality of Islam in our world? Read the articles daily posted on this site - not people's opinions, but the accounts of deeds and words emanating from the Islamic world. Egyptian sub-humans praying for a Muslim-induced holocaust of the Jews; Pakistanis raping and murdering Christians; Gaza womanhood wishing to breed Jihadis; the stoning to death of young rape victims; murder of people SUSPECTED of aiding America; proclamations that sexual intercourse with pre-pubescent girls is acceptable in the Muslim world; Afghan girls threatened with death if they attend school; the Iranian leader's desire for the annihilation of Israel ........ the list is almost endless.
    Putting it succinctly, what are people to think? That because you have your book you are worthy of the respect of those who have the "Testaments"? Stuff your book, and stuff their Testaments. Let's get down to the realities of daily life. And how are people to react to the threats you so clearly pose? Well, dear boy, you can can thank your lucky stars that the finger of Beej is not on the button, for if it were, your Islamic states would be reduced to a glassy consistency upon the instant.
    I know from experience of your past replies to me that you will oleaginously attempt to slide by the matters I have raised, for you can do little else, attempting to muddy the waters, but realise that when you do others can perceive your scurrilous gymnastics
  • Have no fear
    Beej,

    Very interesting thesis, personally you are not my enemy but rather an opening for me to understand more of what destiny laid by the Creator to comprehend what he want me to know before I meet him eventually. How I wish all Muslim throughout follow this esteem blog.

    Tell me when your have wrote the books that you have mentioned. i wish to own one as my personal collection.

    Cheers
  • Have no fear
    Jim Jones,

    Speaking of Father Abraham, the question were, was he a Christian faith individual ? If you declared the esteem man had rightly fully in heaven now which I agreed too then what were his faith?

    He was not of Judaism faith as well, interesting issues don't you agree ?

    Cheers
  • Have no fear
    Jim Jones,

    I think we have a very good healthy argument no doubt, well speaking of Words of God.
    In Islam there is basically 3 type of Books:

    1. Kalammullah (Words of Allah) or Word of God.
    2. Hadith (Words of the Prophet)
    3. Books written by Muslim Imam. e.g Iman Ghazali etc.

    When one reads the Al Quran, he or she will experience a very personal interactive feelings similar to receiving a very personal letters. The Quran words was delivered to the Prophets via Gabriel based on separate issues and events. The firman were then being memorized by Muslim Hafiz and the ayat are recited to the Muslims and rewritten on paper scroll or animal skins. The Quranic ayat was then being recoded systematically during the Osmaniah Caliph reign for fear being forgotten. Collectively, there are 114 surah in all.

    In general most of us knew that the prophet were illiterate ( he couldn't read or writes)

    There were times during the Prophet reign, where a numbers of Arabic poets tries to imitate or create the ayat but doesn't bring about the immense spiritual effects to the listener as the Quranic ayat. The beauty of the ayat is best to be understood and comprehend in its Arabic language; this is because Quranic Arabic is like spectrum of 7 colours and reading it in translation of other language, one will miss the remaining 6 colours.

    Unlike the Holy Bible which most of the Christian accept as words of God is basically of 2 main chapters. The New Testament that were comprised of 4 Gospel according to Luke, Mathew, Peter and John (writers). This are then being combined with the Old Testament. Hence you will have an assorted mixtures of the above 3 in general. Logically, you cannot collectively declare the book as the Word of God anymore.

    Cheers
  • Beejj
    Hello, Jim Jones. If you have read any of my posts you will know I am an atheist. I was raised a Christian, and many of the lessons of the Christian view of daily life remain deeply embedded in me, but after DECADES of deep thought I decided to rid myself of religious belief. (I sometimes describe myself as a God-fearing atheist!) I write to tell you that your recent message moved me.
    As I wrote to JI, Christianity has much to answer for; much blood on its hands; but that is not the fault of Jesus - rather that of all-too-human people who sought to profit in multitudinous ways from the power they achieved through the growing influence of the Church. Christians, then, are an imperfect lot, but the Christian ethos muddles through in the name of its Saviour.
    Queen Victoria asked her Prime Minister, Benjamin D'Israeli to give her one "proof" of God's existence. He replied, "The Jews, ma'am." Think about this. It's a brilliant answer (even if I cannot agree with it!), for it proclaims that the continuing survival of the Jews is the stuff of miracles. I have taught chemistry in two Jewish schools, so I know very many Jewish people. My experiences have given me an abiding love of the Jews, a heroic people. Their religion, of course, I shun.
    Islam? I swear I do my damnedest to keep an open mind, but I am prepared to write a PhD thesis or two or three to explain why Islam is the foullest, most evil construct of the human mind. Perhaps it's my Christian upbringing that causes me to feel momentary guilt when I rejoice upon hearing of the deaths of Muslims, but the feeling is fleeting. This pestilence must be banished from the earth.
  • Jim Jones
    To no fear
    No fear tells me I am a christian . Thanks, but I don't think, No Fear knows what a christian is. Or how a person can be come a true Christian. How can he tell me that I am a christian ?
    However if he would like to know how one can become one , I will gladly tell him.Yes by their fruits ye shall know them . He is correct there. That is something he got from the Bible .
    When I look at the fruits of Islam , it shows a dreadful picture. Do I have to go into details about that?
    Islam may have a different understanding what blasphemy is, however blasphemy is blasphemy and remains blasphemy. Wrong understanding of what blasphemy is ,changes nothing. No fear has committed blasphemy in his letters .It is typical of Islam and typical of the Anti Christ.
    I know what a person has to accept in order to go to Heaven. It is not the Christian Faith, which might surprise Mr. no fear . I can inform him about that too, if he asks.
    Yes Abraham is in heaven because he believed God ,and it was accounted unto him for righteousness.
    No Fear needs to update his knowledge of the True Word of God, the Holy Bible .There is no" Epistle of Paul". Also The Apostle Paul lived in Jesus time. He attended a meeting in Jerusalem where Peter was present. Galatians. Galatians 2:11. Indeed how absurd is no fear and his understanding of Christianity and the Bible .
    My advise to him is not to listen to his imam but to go to the bible . Read for yourself , if you have the freedom to do so .The Bible is the True Word and it encourages the reader to read it .
    So unlike the Koran that was partly eaten up by a goat just after the death of Mohammad. " Narrated by Hazrat Ā’ishah that ayat-e-Rajm and ayat Raza’at were revealed, they were written on something. I kept them under the cart, meanwhile the holy prophet died and we became busy and one GOAT came and ATE those ayyat” (Ibn-e-Maja) " See further info on you tube
    Where are all those verses that the goat ate ? I am not even going in the abrogations that Allah made himself and changing his idea's.
  • Have no fear
    Beej,

    if you are really concern about the Jews welfare and safety, you don't have to look far. Haven't you heard about the Jews who live in Iran protesting againts the Gazan genocide by the Zionist Jews lately. Maybe any Iranian readers of this esteem blog can shed some lights about your concern.

    About Saudi Arabiaor Yemen, we should respect the political means of that respective country. I do not wish to interfere with their political system.

    Beej its a typo error. I'm so sorry, the sentence should be good or rogue .... Although Islam relates to the Arab, you may find Christian Arabs too. In the 80' I happen to sail or travel along the Suez canal, I noticed that there was a mosque and a church being built side by side. Both buildings have bombardment holes in them. Possibly being attacked by the Israel during the war with Egypt.

    About passport being endorsed with Israel marks, hehehe my friend, even we the Muslim have the same problems too. But I was told by my Muslim friend who have similar experience, the Israel Immigration were quite considerate. They endorsed it on alternate forms. Anyway it is just an administrative issues.

    I don't understand what two final sentence ? Perhaps you can clarify....

    Cheers
  • Have no fear
    Jim Jones,


    You are a very nice Christian ... I can feel it !! Elohim or Jehovah ..those are tetragramathon words based on 4 letters word ... I have read it b4 ... ok. Not an issue anyway .... you have the right to believe whatever you want.

    Except ....

    The body does not belongs to me and so are the soul... we came from the the Lord and to him shall we return.I don't need to strengthen my position in any way, because in the eye of the Creator, nobody is great.

    In Islam the greatest blasphemy is to take others to be God. It is very clearly being described in the Quran ...nothing is like him ... not even in puny human imagination or whatever can be equal to God. Know yourself and you shall know him, some answers cannot be described by mere worldly words. For example one can never explains the taste of Asian exotic fruits to somebody in Europe who never even seen the fruits.

    However, you shall get the ANSWER when you actually TASTE it. ... By their fruits you shall know them... The Holy Bible. Try explaining it to other skeptic ... you can never find the right worldly words to explain what you know.

    Such is the "fingerprint" set forth by the Creator.

    Blasphemy in Christian faith is when one started to ask certain "taboo" questions. They were told just to follow and refrain from asking question. Such acts is not blasphemous in Islam, how can you are in the wrong when you want to make sure of the uncertainties. We never confined our mind to refrained from thinking.

    You may want to know what "taboo" question. We being told that to accept Christian faith to enters Heaven, right ? Tell me what was Father Abraham faith ? He can never become Christian !!! Or like wise show us in the Bible where does Jesus Christ ask people to become Christian?

    You can never find one, then who are you following anyway ? Jesus or Paul ? (Epistle of Paul). He was originally known as Saul (Jews name) who was born 500 year after the demise of Jesus. He proclaimed himself to be the 13th deciples. How absurd !!!

    If you goes back to the origin of the King James version of the Bible how it is started you will never stop wondering of the authenticity of the rewritten version of the Book. This is manifested by the words in the Bible ... how can you say that we are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us. But behold, the scribe had made it false with the writing of their right hands ...

    The Bible told the readers to be careful in reading the Book.
  • Have no fear
    gmoney,

    Smokescreen you say? Well, I don't recall of doing any sort of camouflage. I agree there is war in the Middle East except that .. these people are being attacked in their homeland. Their act of fighting, defending their family and land have been interpreted as the acts of terrorism by the media.

    Imagine if the past, Israel were been given a piece of land in Texas to reside instead of Palestine. Then the Zionist and American Government will have no reason to create any war in the Middle East.

    Just to let you all know I will try to repost the message that Jim Jones answer as above.

    Let see if "something" tries to delete it again this time.
  • Jim Jones
    To "No Fear'
    Like a true Muslim," No Fear" talks about the Trinity to strengthen his position. Muslims cannot understand the concept of the trinity. But try and understand yourself, Are you not Body , Soul and Spirit? Were you not created in His Image?And did God not leave His finger prints upon His creation by making this world into Land Air and Sea?
    Yes His name is Elohim. The last 2 letters im denotes, it is plural , meaning Gods . Oh I know, you will say ,there is only one God. How right you are ! You see when the Bible says " The Lord your God is One" , Deut. 6:4 it uses the word "echad" which means , one, as in a plural unity. Like a man and his wife is one ( echad ) flesh
    I notice the blasphemy that "No Fear" commits when he speaks about the incarnation of the Son of God.
    If Christians had the same zeal of punishing people for the sin of blasphemy, Mr " No Fear" would be laying on the ground suffering from a mortal wound on the neck. But this of course is what the Anti Christ does as described in The True Word Of God, Revelation 20:4. Islam gives itself away as the Anti Christ !!
    Oh, please permit me to correct you," No Fear ", the God Of Israel rested on the seventh day not on the sixth day .
    Muslims commend themselves,because they say ",We believe in Jesus as a Prophet !" Yet they dishonor The Father as He spoke from Heaven and said at the baptism of Jesus, "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well
    pleased".I reckon God the Father ( Abbah) knows best. Jesus is His Son !
    Does "No Fear" know what " ABBAH " means? If he does ,he will know the meaning of...
    THERE IS NO GOD BUT ABBAH AND YESHUA ( Jesus) is His Son
    Greetings from Jim Jones
  • gmoney
    You are putting up a smokescreen in defense of Islam. It is a religion of warmongers. Look at every war in the world today and I'd bet 99% of them have Muslims involved and said wars were created by the same.
  • Have no fear
    Jim Jones,

    I believe you have got the answer .... "something" won't allow the message to be shown here.
  • Have no fear
    Jim Jones,

    Well at least you are not an atheist like Beej.

    Speaking of Gods which one from the three that you recognized as God. The Father The Son The Holy Ghost. That is ...OMG .. a lot of Gods !!!

    Some of the Christian Sect recognized Mother Mary to be revered as the Mother of God?. Imagine God entrance into this world through the women .... pussy? Very unacceptable to us!!!! In general, you may accept Jesus Christ as God? himself. Is that right?

    You must agree that the Creator should have some of the following qualities:

    Self Sustenance (free from any needs)
    All Mighty
    All Knowing

    There are 99 beautiful and fully functional names in Islam. I only name a few for the sake of conversations.

    Lets assume that you accept Jesus as the Creator?
    He does not fit with the self sustenance, he still requires food and drinks. What more the Jews did bullied "your God" isn't they? They managed to convinced the Roman Authority in Jerusalem to arrest your God? Tried your God ? in the kangaroo court and finally crucified (killed) your God?

    Does that make your God any greater? Will it suits with his should be quality of ALL MIGHTY. NO it is not ... it sound like a very weak God. No wonder he need to rest on the sixth day in the creation of the world. What a hard working God !!!

    Your perception will logically draws to conclusion that the Jews is equal or better to God? How strange when the Creator being and could be cheated by his Creations (Jews). What is "God" trying to prove to us ?

    That God can be cheated... can be killed and he need food and drinks too. And GOD need to disguised as a Gardener because ...God is so afraid that he might get caught again? A (Godly) concept which is in total contradiction with free from any worldly sustenance and requirements.

    That stance does not fit and will not fit at all with the True Creator. By accepting God have a son merely bringing The Creator to lower animalistic qualities which is a grave mistakes.

    The Muslim revered Jesus Christ @ Esa son of Mary (Mariam) as one of the Prophet to teach the people of Israel the Tawhid concept. Didn't Jesus state in the Bible ...There is no God but One God ....

    Very similar to Islam kalimah of La Illahillah. There is No God but Allah.
  • Have no fear...you are a pig.
  • gmoney
    'Have No Fear' is practicing taqiyya:

    Taqiyya ― Islamic Principle of Lying for the Sake of Allah
  • Beejj
    Sorry, "Have no fear", but what the fuck are you talking about? Am I forbidden to want to do to you assholes what you daily try to do to us? Kick your ass? I would sooner shoot the filthy thing. Defend your families? You treat your women abominably and brainwash your infants to believe the rambling rubbish of a gutless wonder Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot would envy, and encourage them to strap explosives to their bodies. Call me a coward??? Shit, you fuckers have taken out a mortgage on cowardice. Infidels slandering Islam????? Think, you stupid fuck: you just used the word "infidels", and then you complain that such "infidels" slander you??????? There is no hope for you raghead scumbags.
  • Kal_El
    Now now Beej, don't hold back. Why don't you tell us how you really feel? :P
  • Have no fear
    Beej,

    My apology for thinking that you were one of the infidels, sorry I forgot that you don't have any faith in the
    Creator.Just to clear some "airs" of how "violence" our daily activity really is.

    My current daily activity is just to monitor any comment (from this blog)that give or promotes hates among human towards Muslim. The unnecessary comments that have the objective to create hates among people, towards a chronic dangerous intent. You really have a lot of time setting up the fires while we try to douse off to cool any ignorance heated theory that you gave.

    The nearest war zone is about 20 - 30 thousand miles away. We are not involved with any kind of physical wars. I never have any liking for strapping any bomb to kill any one.

    We never fail to have positive support from our non Muslim friends, sure we have hope at least for many years to come. We never have any liking to use vulgar words towards our enemy because we strongly believe cursing our enemy makes you no different from them. We are really not interested to start any fights with anybody, but that will not prevent us from defending our stance to live hand in hand with our non Muslim neighbours.

    Infact for the past 3 days ago we are celebrating the Chinese New Year. Gong Xi Fa Chai !!!

    Cheers
  • Beejj
    JustSomeone, your sentiments are admirable, but misguided, I fear. You speak from the standpoint of reason. You differentiate between good and bad Muslims and say it is not about hating Muslims, but that is precisely what Islam's shakers and movers wish of you. The so-called good Muslims are but putty in the hands of the extremists. The fall of the Shah taught us what can happen in an Islamic state overnight, so don't think it cannot happen again. These vermin want world domination, and they are devious enough to know that peaceful Muslims, living amicably amongst non-Muslims, do great work, for they can gradually ascend to positions of influence until it becomes too late for the infidels to react. Never trust these scumbags. Frankly, it's the peaceful ones who worry me; whom I regard as the greatest threat. The Islamic lunatic fringe alarm us with their inhuman acts and proclamations, and put us on our guard. Such overt expressions will never bring them the triumph they crave unless all the while their fifth columnists odiously and cancerously weave their way into our trust.
    In the West, liberal (and some not-so-liberal) politicians are paving the way for the triumph of Islam, the reason, of course being petroleum, but sites such as this are doing their bit to alert those who will pay heed to the dangers. Remember: when you try to reason with a Muslim you are grappling with the "mind" of a 7th Century illiterate, paedophilic merchant.
  • Have no fear
    Beej,

    So the average Muslim are the much feared Muslim that you need to worry about, congratulation !!! You have dangerously painted an unknowing person so that innocent non Muslim are encourage to kill innocent Muslims even if they are at their very infancy.

    That is a very monstrous and uncivilized act of coward by a man like you. Go ahead kill us if you have to, we won't be surprise you will label us terrorist when we tried to defend our families from your unthinking barbaric action.

    That proves how dangerous slandering is, but anyway, sorry I'm not interested to kick your ass either. If there were any Muslim that you know had kick your ass let me know....ok. Let me remind you again I'm here because of the infidels deliberate slandering of Muhammad PBUH and Islam.

    Save your ass for someone else, I'm sure no Muslim is interested to kick your ass, they are just too busy to defend their families and country from being attacked by an unthinking people like you.
  • Kal_El
    So you are saying the Moors were expelled from Spain in the year 695 AD??? Because the First Crusade took place in 1095. You seriously need to find a good chiropractor to help you pull your head out of your ass and straighten that spine of yours.
  • JustSomeone
    Well dear folks it's not just in the US you've got a problem. Here in Europe it's getting worse by the hour. Why can't we just make everyone to see that fact that talking about islam as a religion of peace is utter nonsense. I'm sure that here and there you'll find good muslims but they are unfortunately not the majority...couldn't we simply make a worldwide movement including everyone to try and end this nightmare. No matter where muslims settle there's problems,violence,hatred,..it's not about hating muslims but it is that interpretation of islam that is insane. Why should we respect their prophet when they don't even respect our lives?!

    The problem is that is one try to adress this whole issue you'll hear words such as fascist and racist...eehhm when did muslims turn into a human race???!

    No do whatever you can.locally,nationally and even internationally it's more important that ever...

    A concerned person (!) in Europe who at least tries to do something!
  • Have no fear
    JustSomeone,

    I have hinted to most of you all, in my previous posting that a real Muslim will not be interested to do harm and damage to other human being. We strongly believe all things belongs to Allah, regardless whether they are good and rogue nation. Let me tell you of who have the intent to destroy other nation regardless whether they are Muslim or non Muslim country. They are not terrorist by the infidels standard, I leave it to you people to decide ....

    http://www.rense.com/general34/esde.htm

    Cheers
  • truthsquak
    There is a danger that the sickness, the evil, the barbaric ideology known as Islam, will cause a lot of bloddshed before it is defeated. Islamists are amazing. They spend 24/7 plotting and scheming and screaming against the West and nothing to improve the life of their followers. Islamits and muslims in general need to pityied. They are still existing in the past, fail to undestand that freedom is a GOD given right, regardless what their Allah preaches or says or transmits, etc., and believe that their way to paradise is through killing innocent people. I doubt they will ever be able to join the community of nations and need to be ignored as crazies in the history of the world have been ignored.
  • hellosnackbar
    Rephrase that pivotal question HFN and I shall do my best Inshallah.
  • hellosnackbar
    HFN we don't curse Islam(pejoatives are balding they are the yelp of the simple minded(like the beautiful(so she tells me) sex queen belladonaja.
  • Does "us" include all the people here who see right through you? You are the joke here.
  • hellosnackbar
    Well if Jihad is not about killing people then someone(an Islamic scholar perhaps) ought to explain to mindless, murdering muslims, that they shouldn't kill.
  • die juden die
    hellosnackbar,
    u imbecile,retard,i can easily fathom ur anger against the whole world including muslims.u must be one of those typical christian or jewish children born to unwed mothers out of teenage pregnancies,left on the church doors by their slutty mothers coz they r so poor that they cant afford shit,raised in church dorms like typical bastards ,molested by paedophilic pastors,becoming deliquents,working ur ass out doing two daily jobs as a night watchman n a toilet cleaner,but still not making enough money coz most of it is spend on dope.islam is about salvaging ur moronic ass from being eternally roasted in the the ferrocious fires of hell n.its the religon ur jesus will profess when he comes back ,to save his own ass.take ur brains out of ur ass n put them inside ur head to think reasonably,jerk.or do u need me to kick ur ass to accomplish this simple task
  • Kal_El
    Bring it on, khanzir!
  • Beejj
    "Only 2 people died in 9/11." Gaz, you need urgent medical attention.
  • gaz
    who cares about the bible anyway, it is just another load of crap... you can't give wise answers about a load of rubbish made up by primitive societies thousands of years ago... frankly who cares?... get a life
  • gaz
    ... I don't need to ... like you it's an article of faith :)
  • This is part where you try and turn it all on me, because I will not fall for one line of your bs. That is what the Islamic world does best, play the victim card.
  • Have no fear
    ChristopherL,

    We don't have to figure it out who you really are, you have just painted a specific colors of your true self.

    Cheers to all my Christian friends.
  • Christians are not on a worldwide jihad, so the comparison is not valid. Islam deserves all the criticism that it gets.
  • The truth is that I clearly see the game that you are playing here and I am not religious. Mohammad was a child rapist and terrorists. Since you cannot refute that you have to try to take the focus off of Islam. Nothing that you say will haunt me or be a pain in the ass as unlike so many Muslims I am not thin skinned. Maybe one day you will figure out that I do not care what you think about me or any other issue.
  • Have no fear
    ChristopherL,

    Well now you can see, that truth is really a pain in the ass. What the "learned" Infidel can do now is to hide behind a carefully fabricated words in the hope that nobody would ask the TABOO question , frightening and ugly truth about Christian faiths.

    Not so bad of a "human" comment in comparison when you terms Islam as barbaric ..... is it ?
    With those questions unanswered doesn't if feel funny when you tries to avoid simple
    mandatory Christian faith questions. Put it this way guys, the more you people keep
    slandering and telling lies about Muhammad PBUH, don't be surprise this prominent unanswered questionS will haunt you .....

    In other words it will become a PAIN IN THE ASS kind of inquiries for you folks !!!

    Cheers
  • Beejj
    If Christians were waging holy war (holy war, my ass!) upon the Jews and whom they might consider to be infidels; if they were treating their women as abominably as Muslims do theirs; if they sanctioned paedophilia; if they outlawed apostasy; then we would take them to task just as we do you. But they don't. Don't feebly try to muddy the waters.
  • The ugly truth about Islam is what is being spoken here and your game is to try and get the focus off of Islam. Does "we" include all the people who are not buying a word that you say? lol!!

    Let me make this clear, I do not owe you or any other Islamist a damn thing. Save the Bible distraction, because Christians are not looking to impose a set of barbaric laws on the world, Muslims are.
  • Have no fear
    ChristopherL,

    So the games is to slander and make fun to other religion as you please ..is that it , huh? " Don't do to others things that you dislike others do to you ... " the Holy Bible .... "by their fruits ..you shall know them.."

    Anyway, you owe the peoples some answers ... we are waiting to be enlightened by you..

    Cheers
  • The thread is not about Christianity, so stop with the games.
  • Beejj
    My apologies, ChristopherL.
  • Not necessary it gets confusing the way the comments link up sometimes.
  • Not you buddy, my comments were for Have no Fear. The new comments to him, just go down to the bottom.
  • Beejj
    Sorry if I am being obtuse, ChristopherL, but I cannot see your point, if indeed your message was directed at me. What's all this about my last sentence? Why should I think I am "outsmarting" anyone? Tell me what you think my goal is. I am as bemused as the most pious Mohammedan.
  • Beejj
    Absolutely right, "Have no Fear". Spot on. I'm sorry I did not make myself clear. I was not even attempting to answer your pithy questions; I was merely lending you support. Your questions cannot be answered from the viewpoint of sheer logic: they pinpoint the ludicrousness that begs you to ask them. I repeat that it was Paul and Constantine who invented such things. You are correct - they are NOT mentioned in the Bible. I don't know if this makes me a "learned" infidel, but as a scientist I seek and value truth - the most serious business of all. This is one of the reasons I shun religion. Who needs it?
  • Your last sentence proves to us what your goal is here. Do not even begin to think that you are out smarting anyone.
  • Have no fear
    ChristopherL,
    I'm not outsmarting any one, I will never admit that.. Tell me is it a taboo in the Christian faith to ask question like these. This is not insulting question ..mind you. I'm pretty sure some of the Christian would like to know the answers. Only they are too afraid to ask .... ask again afraid of what ?

    You tell us ....
  • The truth is that your goal here is to try and get the focus off of Islam.
  • Have no fear
    Beej,

    Your reasoning does not provide any clear answer ..perhaps because you do not fully understand what the question was. These are questions that Christian don't want people to ask, well I supposed we have the right to "think freely" don't we?

    Beside if "God" have to raise again to conquer death ? That makes "death" to have much more authority than God himself don't you think so? We have the right to know don't we ? Any learnt infidel here? pls enlightened us ...

    Truth is really a very serious business. Don't you think so Beej?
  • Beejj
    Allow me to recommend "God Is Not Great" by Christopher Hitchens, Hellosnackbar. You'll enjoy his trenchant views. A pigskin-bound Koran? You rascal, you!
  • hellosnackbar
    I've already got it and on the subject of the islamofacists a signed copy of America Alone by Mark Steyn,
    His message accompanying his signature was:Let's win"
  • hellosnackbar
    Well my little solanaceous poisonous herb(atropa belladonna aka deadly night shade).It seems that you are treating us to your poetic talents.
  • Beejj
    You'll get no argument from me, concerning these matters, "Have no Fear". Paul has much to answer for, since it was he who did so much to spread the word, seemingly embroidering it as he saw fit in order to attract more converts to Christianity. Then there was Constantine, a few hundred years later, who decided to invent the concept of the Trinity for political purposes. Much, much later we had Pius XII to "confirm" that the so-called Virgin Mary, long before NASA, did not die, but shot up into the sky. (I believe Mohammed was supposed to have enjoyed such transport, so perhaps the later Christians felt they had to join the Space Race, too.) Christians might get hot under the collar about all this, but not I since I have no religion. The general tone of the messages posted on this site, though, are not so much a matter of claiming one religion to be superior to another, but expressions of disgust with the antics of Muslims.
  • Have no fear
    Hello Infidels,

    Let see if you really have any balls left to enlightened us with these simple question? The last time when these question were being posted you have just ignored it. No Muslim here is interested to convert you, personally I'm here to see if you really have the ANSWERS !!!
    1. Show us where in the Bible that Jesus proclaimed that he is God the Al Mighty.
    2. Show us where in the Bible that he ask the people to become Christian.
    3. The infidel "arjis" mentioned that his Creator died on the Cross ... does fragile God can be a perfect God ?
    4. Why does God had to died anyway ..does it necessary for God to die...???

    fORGET ABOUT iSLAM ...forget about Muslim ... Infidels just enlightened us with your wise ANSWERS...
  • Beejj
    Well said, Britannia Patriot. The problem is, however, that no muslim will ever listen to reason. Their thinking has not changed one iota since their book of hate saw the light of day. They feed on outlandish grotesqueness and stand still while the rest of the world advances, no matter how halting and sometimes mistaken such advances might be. The brainwash each new generation into belief in dogma and contribute nothing to the wellbeing of the world. Mentally, they are stone-age people, but at least they are very good at stoning to death 13 year-old girls who have been raped by their brethren. Astonishingly, they have convinced much of the world to pay heed to their lies about Palestine, but one hopes that the gullible ones might one day delve deeply into its history.
  • rjimlad
    They won't listen to reason because Islam has removed the ability for the Moslem to think for himself.
  • Britannia Patriot
    Muslims (Mohamadans is a better discription as they are clearly followers of the dillusional ravings of a flesh and blood madman called Mohammad) better realise that we are not all weak, vacilating cowards. Our governments do not represent our views and do not protect us as we expect them to. If you want a fight then you will get one! Better that we fight as Lions than submit to you as sheep.

    Taking over a country is not easy and there are plenty who will fight back politically and literally - if necesary.
    If you don't like it in the west emigrate to a Muslim country where you will be 'free' to live the 'perfect' life.

    SOmething you Muslims don't get is that your religion is nasty: it demands we submit by force whereas the better religions (yes, they are better) ask that people be persuaded into the religion. If you learnt to persuade you might find more converts. Threatening people with death and distruction just makes them very angry!
  • Kal_El
    Well said. If the time comes, you will not stand alone.
  • Please tell us how you are not a Muslim. Oh you are did that, you are just too smart.
  • Right you are not a Muslim, but you make comments like this.
  • gaz
    I could be a jew couldn't I?
  • Islam is not a race.
  • gaz
    well a good dose of fibre is better than a bad dose of sex I guess :)
  • gaz
    sorry mate, I posted my comment on the wrong thread.. my mistake... i am not a moslem, however I think the term raghead is just racial abuse, which shows the lazy way you think
  • Kal_El
    Agreed. Israel Akbar! :D
  • Kal_El
    How do you arrive at that conclusion? Christianity was founded on tolerance, peace, God's love and forgiveness, where as islam was founded in robbery, rape, misogyny and blood. People made a mess of Christianty, where as islam IS the mess. Write that down.
  • rjimlad
    Agreed. Maybe the Spanish Inquisitions and the Crusades by the Roman Catholic Church qualifies as being as despicable as Islam, but the Catholics are sorry for it today, unlike Islams so called warriors. Jesus is peace, not Mohammad, the Pope, Buddha or any of these false deities.
  • Kal_El
    Actually the Crusades and the Inquisition were retaliation against muslims who had invaded and taken over Christian lands in the Middle East (Crusades) and occupied Spain/Portugal, establishing a caliphate there (Inquisition). And, truth be told, fewer people died during the 350 years of inquisition than on 9/11.
  • gaz
    the crusades happened 400 years after the moors were expelled from spain.. who needs facts when you can just make stuff up... did you know only 2 people died in 9/11?
  • rjimlad
    The point I was making was that the RC's are sorry for it now. Don't see too many Muslims expressing regret for 9/11 or 07/07. Christ preached that neither of these groups' activities were acceptable to God.
  • Daniel
    Where exactly are you getting your information from? Some estimates of deaths during the inquisition are around 5,000 people. I don't know the exact body count from 9/11 but I don't think it was that high. Also, the deaths from the crusades are estimated to be in the millions.
  • Kal_El
    Daniel, I stand corrected, my statement was innacurate. What I SHOULD have said was fewer people died in the 36 years of conflict in Ireland than on 9/11, or that more people are killed by muslims each year than during the 350 years of the Inquisition. Apologies for the mistake, and thank you for correcting me.
  • Kal_El
    ROFL!!! That was HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Raisins LMAO!!!!!!!!!
  • Beejj
    Yes, I have read of this. How delightful to think of those 9/11 arseholes walking into Paradise to be greeted with 72 raisins! "What's this?" "This your reward for your valour and great sacrifice, my son." says Mohammed. "Raisins????? Hell's teeth, we could have bought them for damn-all when we were alive. All that pain and burning and flames - FOR RAISINS?????" "Yes, my son, but if you ask nicely we'll pour some cream over them ." "You mean I spent all those years of fostering my hatred for the infidels to be rewarded with a few RAISINS????" "Yes, my son. I was disappointed, too, when I got here." "Why?" "Because God is not a Muslim. He hates the fuckers."
  • gaz
    I agree, both christianity and Islam have one hell of a lot to answer for in terms of human suffering.
  • Beejj
    ALL religions have much to answer for, although I am not certain such applies to Buddhism. Religion is the most vicious and odious poison ever concocted by the human mind. Christians seem to hold the opinion that theirs is a religion of love and forgiveness, but what do they think, for example, when they delve into the Spanish Inquisition or the Crusades or their treatment of the Aztecs and Incas? What of Judaism's Ten Commandments? They omit the word "Jews", as in "Thou shalt not kill (JEWS)". Muslims? I would sooner befriend a rabid dog.
  • gaz
    I think the 72 virgins is a bit of a mis translation. Proffessor Luxwmbourg an Linguistics expert in france thinks the word Duur which is an Arameic word... (a language spoken at the time of jesus) has been mistranslated as virgin. the correct translation is white raisin. So on that basis if you do blow yourself up remember to enjoy your bowl of dried fruit as you enter heaven (or Hell)
  • gaz
    well i think kaffir means a non moslem. so if not being a moslem is a race... but as has already been pointed out islam is not a race, so not being a moslem cannot be a race either. Filthy kaffir certainly soundls like an insult thought
  • Kaffir is a Arabic slur.
  • Beejj
    Kaffir might well be an Arabic slur, but there any slur that equals MUSLIM?
  • Beejj
    Oops, typo. "is there ........"
  • Beejj
    Kal_El, I fear no Muslim, either. How can one fear cowards who hide behind womens' skirts; who get the crap knocked out of them them when they attack Israel in such superior numbers; who are so sexually disturbed they force their women to cover themselves so completely; who so eagerly linked themselves with Hitler, hoping he would achieve what they could not. A Muslim is not to be feared, but pitied and reviled. Long live Israel!
  • Kal_El
    Repost whatever you said, and I will make sure it gets on here.
  • Joan
    Is the term "filthy kaffir" a racist term ?
  • Kal_El
    No it is not, it kafir is the singular of infidel, kuffar is plural, from what I am told. And called :P
  • Beejj
    Hello, Gaz. I would sooner eat pork or pig droppings than sit at the table with one of you low-life, cowardly, wife-beating, scum-bag ragheads.
  • Beejj
    Hello, Al Law. I don't know if your message was in response to mine, but if it is, please translate it into English so that I might understand.

    To those readers of these messages - those who have been indoctrinated into the cess pit of religious belief - allow me to suggest that you read Richard Dawkins. His "The God Delusion" would be a good starting point.

    I strongly support the enlightened Jews (winners of over 160 Nobel Prizes) against the blind hatred of the Muslims (winners of SIX), but I would, if I could, place a curse upon all religions because they make a mockery of the human mind - the most wondrous entity discovered in the known universe. All religions are a curse, but the excrement that poured forth from the child molesting Mohammed is the most disgusting and ruinous poison ever to threaten humanity. The Qu'ran? The Book of Hate.
  • Hi Beej, I take a guess at you wanting an explaination 'Al Law's' somewhat Cryptic first sentence, as I understand it by the 'God is Love but she's on the rag right now' refers to his woman' she is Menstruating and he is unable to have sex with his Woman, some what mis-led especially when the subject is of Muslims, Islam and their attemps to bludgeon the rest of the World into Islam, which of course will never happen, there are two many Freemen who would inspire those Free to continue to be Free not matter what, Islam wears Blinkers and those who follow it also wear Blinkers, their rantings and ravings are a show of lack of Education and Understanding, let them get on with it just remember your a 'FREEMAN' - Templars......
  • hellosnackbar
    Sagacious advice Beej! I've so far converted two individuals to the verisimilitude of non-faith by giving
    "the God Delusion" as Christmas presents.
    BTW I have a (as far as I know) a unique copy of the Koran;it's bound in pigskin.
    I get a rascally pleasure showing it off to muslim colleagues explaining that the binding is calves' skin.
    They always purr with approval and urge me to convert.
  • My Best , Mr Burns....."Excellent"
  • Kal_El
    Where did you get that pigskin bound quran, and can you find out if I can have 150 of them shipped to my address in the middle east??? :D
  • JEWHAWK
    Hehehehe...very clever!!If they already touched it,they became "impure"...
    Don't even kid yourself about their intention about conversion.One day
    they could tell you that you've got TWO options:CONVERT TO ISLAM OR
    DIE.
  • gaz
    No i disagree with you paying people differently because of nationality could well be racist
  • Kal_El
    Could well be? No, it IS racist. Which is what I just said...
  • Kal_El
    Could well be? No, it IS racist.
  • Kal_El
    That is a crock, the insult is not just directed at Arabs alone, but also Afghans, Pakistani and African muslims who wear the dishdash, along with the Western imbeciles who decide to follow the path of the Pedophile Muhammad. So your crying about racial overtones is crap. Typical leftist whining, since you cannot win the argument on merit or logic, play the race card. As for racial abuse, how about the virtual slavery in Kuwait where Bangladeshi day laborers are worked 7 days a week, 12 hours a day for 75 dollars a month? Or how about the Filipina nurses that face 6 12 hour workdays a week for 350 dollars a month? Nothing racial about paying them based on nationality, right? But keep trying, you almost look like you are attempting to form a cogent theory from which to base an argument.
  • Kal_El
    That is a crock, the insult is not just directed at Arabs, but also Afghans, Pakistani and African muslims who wear the dishdash. So your crying about racial overtones is crap. Typical leftist whining, since you cannot win the argument on merit or logic, play the race card. As for racial abuse, how about the virtual slavery in Kuwait where Bangladeshi day laborers are worked 7 days a week, 12 hours a day for 75 dollars a month? Or how about the Filipina nurses that face 6 12 hour workdays a week for 350 dollars a month? Nothing racial about paying them based on nationality, right? But keep trying, you almost look like you are attempting to form a cogent theory from which to base an argument.
  • gaz
    Thats because America unconditionally supports Israel, has vetoed every UN resoution that critisizes Israel, despite the fact that Israels occupation of Palestinean land is completely illegal, againt international law. Israel has continued to build settlements on stolen land, it has more UN resolutions agains it than Iraq ever did, and yet america pours 80 million dollars a year into supplying apache attack helicopters, F111 fighter planes, to aid Israel in it's illegal land-grab.

    Consiquently palistineans see that America is totally against it, and will support Israel no matter what Israel does. So palestinians tend to hate America. And America hates Palestine.

    The problem we should be dealing with is radical Islam, and by supplying weapons of war to a country that is illegally occupying the land of another, is just one example of how to sew radicalism.

    If after the second world war the Allies had decided that Texas was to be given to the jews, and any Americans that happened to live there would be hounded out of their ranches, and the jews had all the weapons, and the texans just had stones... that might give you some idea how the palistineans feel.

    We all need a home for gods sake, and theirs has been taken by an artificially created state ie Israel.

    Ok so stop the settlements, give them some of their land back and lets go for peace instead of all this killing.

    shalom
  • rjimlad
    gaz, read Scripture. Palestine is a newly created state that has no right to the land of Israel. It is not the Jewish people but the other side who are the illegal occupiers.

    God clearly gave the Land from the Nile to the Euphrates to the Jewish people as an eternal possession (Genesis 15:18 , Psalm 105:6 -11, Jeremiah 30:3 ).

    The root of the violence has always been the Muslim Arabs refusal to accept the right of the Jewish state to exist. Arab violence against the Jews has been taking place since the early 20th century - it began as soon as the Jews began to move back to their ancient homeland. Long before Israel became a nation in 1948, the Arabs were carrying out murderous acts of terror against the Jewish people who had returned.

    The sad indictment on the Western nations is that not much has really changed since the Nazi Holocaust. The world was silent while the Nazis murdered thousands of Jews every day. Over the 40 years since 1967 of Palestinian terror against Israel, much of the world has been silent or even more shockingly, standing with the Palestinians in their guerilla war against Israel, their unabashed aim being the destruction of the Jewish State. That is, plans for a Holocost!

    Even the Church also stood in silence, praising the God of Israel, as 6 million Jews were gassed and incinerated in Germany and Poland. And today much of the Church is still doing the same, or even opposing Israel.

    Over the last 40 years the secular media has successfully deceived most of the world about the real situation in the Middle East. Satan is the " prince of the power of the air " and thus has control over the media which uses the airwaves to gather and disseminate the news. Most of the international news providers like Reuters and Associated Press are owned by members of the Saudi royal family - Muslims!

    It is no wonder people are confused. Best to stick to what the Bible says about it all. it is ultimately God we will face on Judgement Day, and He speaks to us through His Holy Scriptures. If we listen and are prepared to learn history, that is.
  • Beejj
    Israel does not "occupy" Palestine. Read history, you ignoramus, and discover how your gutless brethren fled that land when your pitiful heroes attacked the newly-formed State, imagining they could deal a death blow to the noble Jews. Read what Ben Gurion had to say about the exodus of the moneyed Arabs. Did the Jews vindicate this decision of the Arabs to leave through slaughter and bestiality? Nope. Gosh, imagine the shoe being on the other foot! Would there be a single Jew living there now? Nope; not one. Who is the greatest enemy of the Arabic Palestinians? The Arabs, of course. As long as there are Palestinian "refugees" the Muslim world will have a target for the sorrow of an ignorant world. They are "good press" for the Arabs - who care nothing for them.

    Before the Jews began settling the area in the early years of the 20th Century the land was sand and rocks and a desiccated hopelessness. Read Mark Twain if you dare argue with me. Along came the industrious, ingenious Jews and the process of reclamation began. And then the Arabs wanted to steal that which the Jews had striven for. Much like Mugabe, really.

    By the way: I am not a Jew, alas.
  • Kal_El
    Artificially created state? Israel has existed in that region for at least 3000 years!!! As for sewing radicalism, pull your head out of your ass, islam is the problem, not radical islam. Iran's Ayatollah Khameini himself said there is no such thing as radical islam. Its singular goal is to take over the world and convert, subjugate or kill EVERYONE. Israel is just another excuse for muslims to be violent, as their "prophet" Muhammad was. I do agree we all need a home, which is why Israel got theirs back from the Arabs occupying it. As for your hypothetical on Texas, you can make any claim you want. I could just as easily claim that Texans, friendly and welcoming as we are, would have stayed put and welcomed our Jewish neighbors with open arms.
  • Beejj
    Well said, Kal_El. Well said, indeed! Let us see if any of these wife-beating, sexually inadequate gutless wonders respond with an ounce of logic to your message. Logic from a Muslim? Oops, sorry. Slip of the tongue. Just think ...... in a thousand years from now the world will have moved on to who knows what? It will have learned from its triumphs and failures. But what of the muslims? They will still be slaves to their revered child molester, cladding their women in garments that will not inflame their neighbours while providing the world with perhaps 2 more Nobel laureates. Ah, Allah Akbar, or whatever it is these yokels scream when they desperately want to feel heroic. A heroic Muslim? Um ... that's equivalent to a virgin prostitute.
  • Kal_El
    Thanks! Now and then I come up with stuff like that. LOL @ virgin prostitute!!
  • Kal_El
    Artificially created state? http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/isra...Read that, seriously. As for sewing radicalism, pull your head out of your ass, islam is the problem, not radical islam. Iran's Ayatollah Khameini himself said there is no such thing as radical islam. Its singular goal is to take over the world and convert, subjugate or kill EVERYONE. Israel is just another excuse for muslims to be violent, as their "prophet" Muhammad was. I do agree we all need a home, which is why Israel got theirs back from the Arabs occupying it. As for your hypothetical on Texas, you can make any claim you want. I could just as easily claim that Texans, friendly and welcoming as we are, would have stayed put and welcomed our Jewish neighbors with open arms.
  • Decisive
    Guys, been an independent for awhile (religiously neutral, but spiritually uplift). Must say I have been inspired to check-up on this Islamic thing??? Have a family member who recently converted to Islam... Noticed something a little different about him...so I did my home work. Short answer... ISLAM SUCKS!
    This guy has turned into a total wack-job, so much so I have totaly disenfranchised myself with him. Don't get it wrong I'm not painting islam with a broad brush...but I love freedom and life too much to see 911 or any of the other horrific historical events happen again!!(Ottaman Empire)

    Go Bush Go , Go Bush Go... wait a minute did I say that? Never thought I would ever say that? Thanks islam for bring it so close to home......I’m ready for ya and so are my friends......turn back now...it will never happen...long live the WEST ...se ya!
  • Al Law
    God is love, but she's on the rag right now, which is why she's letting Israel wipe it's ass on Gaza. Where's your Allah now biotches?
  • gaz
    I never said islam was a race, i merely commented that the term "raghead" used as an insult could only refer to people who live in the middle east, and therefore is an insult that has racial overtones. If you want to win the battle of ideas, insulting people on a racial level just lets you and your arguments down.
    There are plenty of reasons to disagree with the islamic religion without degrading yourself by using racial abuse.

    christopher... I make comments like what?
  • hellosnackbar
    A muslim colleaague told me that the term towel head was racist(he meant insulting)And that the
    keffiyeh was in fact like a small sheet.
    Alright "sheet head".I responded and he let forth a stream of filthy invective.
    These people are far too sensitive.
  • gaz
    no i am not a moslem, nor am i a fan of islam
  • rjimlad
    You still haven't proven that God the Almighty Creator "didn't exist"...
  • gaz
    I say screw god... he doesn't exist... you might as well use the man in the moon to justify your position.. you really are not better than the jihadists you critisize.
  • Beejj
    Islam overthrow the US and Britain by force? In order to succeed, its adherents will have to don uniform and fight a real war. Strapping explosives to the bodies of children and mentally handicapped women will not work, and neither will firing rockets from civilian centres and school playgrounds. Muslims come out into the open to spread their hateful religion? I shan't hold my breath, although it would be delicious to see them have their cowardly asses kicked yet again.
  • hellosnackbar,
    You have chosen a very appropriate name that suits you very well with your comments on Allah ... it sounds more like ...hell snackbar... good luck to you.
  • hellosnackbar
    No you halfwit it's what I thought a howling mob of muslim louts were shouting at a rally in London.
  • right4us
    Chuki - Well don't stop there - go ahead and point out some more "unbiased" reporting from others like, er, Al Jezzera, BBC, CNN.... - or any of those other leftist/propaganda dhimmis - and lobbyists for terrorists, murderers, and psychopaths..

    And, how would the story go if Israel had been training their children (proudly taped even) - to hate and murder like muslims do? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8zmsrncSBA

    Or using them as human shields like muslims do? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7hA_EwnZ-4&fe...

    And, of course, you will even try to deny, or obfuscate what this Islamic satanic death spewer - is spewing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTu-AUE9ycs&fe...
  • Bella, Not my Creator.
    My Creator died on a cross for the worlds sins and then rose from the grave to conquer death. He didn't pass down the words of the Koran.
  • rjimlad
    arjis, Hallelujah, Selah and Amen. John 3:16
  • gaz
    he also didn't exsist!
  • rjimlad
    gaz, prove it!
  • hahahaha!!!! My sentiments EXACTLY!
  • "I CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH YOU BECAUSE IT IS LIKE TRYING TO HAVE AN EDUCATED DISCUSSION WITH AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLER. PLEASE SPEAK SENSE OR KEEP QUIET OTHERWISE FEAR THE FIRE OF HELL. THE QUR'AAN IS FROM YOUR CREATOR, IT IS THE WORDS OF ALLAAH (GOD) NOT THE WORDS OF SCHOLARS OR MAN. YOUR REPLIES ARE THAT OF AN IDIOT AN UNEDUCATED PERSON THUS I WILL NOT REPLY TO YOU."


    Excuse me, are these the words of Allah speaking through you?
    Cause.... I'm just not feelin the love and peace....

    You just seem to go around here yelling and screaming like a cornered animal. Are you sure about your God, you're salvation? You look really insecure to me...
  • right4us
    Chuki - LOL - Your logic and reasoning is non existant!!

    And to further illustrate your ignorance - you just called all these "self proclaimed and witnessed groups" liars. Also, everyone in the world that has either encountered them, taped, televised them on stations throught the world, disbursed their propaganda material praising their deeds and threats/demands, etc. etc...

    But, then again, this is what muslims do repeatedly every day - distort reality, lie and deceive..

    Shear ignorance on display!
  • right4us
    Chuki - What part of this did you not grasp: "Israel has pre-possessed that land, as well as kicked the crap out of a combined arab force in the 6 day war in battle to posess it, and even more land. You mean that history? "
  • Israel gave them Gaza and all they got back in return was more rockets. Now the Palestinians deserve nothing.
  • The population of Gaza is on the rise, there is no Genocide.
  • Are we discussing on Biblical historical facts or Palestinian land being gradually robbed off by Israel... ????!!! ;p
  • If I wanted to say that I would of, save the victim card for someone else.
    Your statement really shows the type of person that you are. YOU are calling for the genocide of the Israelis. Just a typical Muslim who thinks that there are two sets of rules. One where Muslims can say and do what they want and the other where non-Muslims cannot. Take a look around, the Islamic world is not superior to the non-Islamic world, and it never will be.
  • Beejj
    The Islamic world is not even superior to dogshit.
  • For your info Al Qeada is non existant, these group served to validate any claimed of "Islamic terrorism"made by the Invading nation. In other word they are like ur ally to validate invasion of other Islamic country.
    There is no sincerity in war ....
  • Gable
    Chukai, since we are talking about the power of truth, enlighten me on Islam. All great religions have a common thread, basically a tenet that states "do unto others, as you would have them do unto you". Tell me, is this something Muhammad/Islam would teach?
  • Are you implying that these people have no right to live. Thank you very much, for your statement really shows the type of person u are.
    Never mind, I have "good news" for you . Read these latest news !!!! Its about the daily life of a nation whose days are numbered.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/03/gaza-...
  • hellosnackbar
    If you use Al Guardian as your source of truth then you're more deranged than I thought.
  • right4us
    Hamas, Hezbolla, PLO, Al Qeada, Taliban, etc. - name your Islamic muslim murderous sect.. they all have the same mission. Kill off the Jews, then the christian, then others till Islam rules the world in sharia law.

    Anyone that is friend to them, is enemity to humanity. They are the embodiment of evil. They reveal this every day in the inhuman acts of terrorism, barbarism they commit - suicide bombings, beheadings, using innocents as human shields, teaching their children to hate and become killers for allah, and on and on...
  • What the hell? Who is this joker? Chukai, lets get to brass tacks. One doesn't need to know Mohammed all that well to realize he was a false prophet. Just a quick read of the Koran and it's cyrsial clear to me that Mohammed was an ill man with too much influence. He was sick in the head, twisted for sure.
    Jesus on the other hand taught love, forgivness and understanding. .I question a few things in Christianity but that's healthy, God gave me free will and I use it, thinking keeps the brain from going soft!
    Which makes one wonder, exactly how soft in the head do you have to be to commit a suicide bombing?
    Have a bitchin day! I'm going to watch my little bro shred the les paul at band practice!
  • Mohammad will bow to Jesus Christ, as will ALL MEN.

    Just look for Him...

    He is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you...

    Peace
  • Mohammad will bow to Jesus Christ, as will ALL MEN.

    Just look for him...

    He is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you...

    Peace
  • Whoever u r, there is a Hadith that states that ... if human were to worship other human. Then I (Muhammad PBUH) will command the wife to worship her husband and the son to worship his mother.

    That was the closest .... if human were to worship other human... however that is not the case. Jesus PBUH is just a human and you can never find anywhere in the Bible that he instructed to be worshipped as God.

    If you were to read in the Bible you may find an event in the garden of Gethsamane where Jesus himself falls his face on the ground after praying to the LOrd ".... o my Father released these cup from me not as I willed but as thou willed ..." As a prophet he knew that he will be arrested by the Jews and the Roman soldiers but that is all he did after uttering those words. Very similars to the Muslim acts of doing sujud in Solah (praying).

    Jesus or Essa PBUH bow down to the Creators just like every Muslim .....
  • sorry 09/11/01

    Lost my head for a minute... :^)
  • So Belladonnaia,

    9/11/08 was Allah's will? Your god said... " Go kill the American's..."?

    This is what you are preaching here. Nice

    Religion you have there....
  • The only problem with your comment is that the population of Gaza is on the rise.
    Feel free to come up with some new Islamic propaganda.
  • Hello Infidels,

    We think its about time that you should read an open letter to your out going President with regards to the Genocide of Palestinian civilian. The people of the world is not stupid to learn the truth. Feel free to read it here. http://nader.org/index.php?/archives/2092-Letter-...
  • Beejj
    People like you make me proud to be an "Infidel". If not being one implies I must belong to your diseased creed, then I embrace "infidelism" with open arms, heart and soul. You scumbags speak of genocide in Gaza. Clearly, your understanding of the word is on a par with that of your concept of fairness to women. How dreadful that Israel should defend itself against the rocket attacks of your cowardly, murdering "soldiers".Scum like you bring shame on the word "soldier". Tell me: why do your poxed brethren so hate the Jews? Do you know? If not, allow me to explain it to you, you inferior insect.
  • Kal_El
    No, the people of this world are not stupid. We are waking up to what islam really is: nothing more than a violent stoneage cult. As for Genocide, how does the deaths of 700 Palestinians over 2 weeks become genocide? By that measure, muslims committed genocide against Americans on 9/11 in New York and Washington, which Palestinians celebrated in the streets. Now you cry because your chickens came home to roost?
  • Joan
    Islam is simply a modern day cult, an excuss to murder in the name of a non existant religion.
  • right4us
    Chuk - You and other muslims should do a simple web search of - history of bible - then the koran. Maybe it will start to sink in that the written Hebrew/Jewish religious texts existed more than 2000 yrs before Islam.

    "1450-1400 B.C. The traditional date for Moses' writing of Genesis-Deuteronomy in Hebrew." An undeniable pre-Islam Jewish legacy spanning thousands of yrs of GOD/man's relationship. A 40 generations evidence of revealed wisdom meticulously documented by the Jewish people. The Koran didn't come into existance until the late 7th century AD, after Muhammed's death

    To re-create history, you infer the idiotic notion that for thousands of years GOD was really looking for a Muslim, but could only find Jews who would listen to HIM, and document his message. But, finally, thousands of years later he found a Muslim. And, immediately corrected the misprepresentation of GOD (lies and misconceptions he allowed for thousands of yrs) via Islam/koran/suras/hadiths. That is completely absurd.

    Anyone claiming GOD would later embrace a religion seeking to kill Jews now, after keeping his words alive for over 4000 yrs - is demented beyond comprehension.
  • Beejj
    Have no fear, I omitted to ask one more question of you .........
    Why I am I not allowed to enter Arab countries if my passport reveals that I have visited Israel?
  • Beejj
    Have no fear: please define "good" and "rogue" as these apply to nations. You strongly believe that all things belong to Allah. How do you react to those who disagree with you? I wish my knowledge of the history of Islam were better than it is, but somewhere along the way I got the impression that your book says it's OK to put those resistant to your faith to the sword. Am I being foolish? If your religion is so accepting of others' beliefs, why are there no Christian churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia, for example? Could there be such a thing as a Christian Democrat political party in Yemen, or Iran? What would be the fate of Israelis if Israel were conquered by the various Arab states? What do your final two sentences mean?
  • right4us
    Chuk - You and other muslims should do a simple web search of - history of bible - then the koran. Maybe it will start to sink in that the written Hebrew/Jewish religious texts existed more than 2000 yrs before Islam.____"1450-1400 B.C. The traditional date for Moses' writing of Genesis-Deuteronomy in Hebrew." An undeniable pre-Islam Jewish legacy spanning thousands of yrs of GOD/man's relationship. A 40 generations evidence of revealed wisdom meticulously documented by the Jewish people. The Koran didn't come into existance until the late 7th century AD, after Muhammed's death____To re-create history, you infer the idiotic notion that for thousands of years GOD was really looking for a Muslim, but could only find Jews who would listen to HIM, and document his message. But, finally, thousands of years later he found a Muslim. And, immediately corrected the misprepresentation of GOD (lies and misconceptions he allowed for thousands of yrs) via Islam/koran/suras/hadiths. That is completely absurd.____Anyone claiming GOD would later embrace a religion seeking to kill Jews now, after keeping his words alive for over 4000 yrs - is demented beyond comprehension.
  • right4us maybe ....it is not necessarily correct, Israel had been killing for the past 56 years ago.Collectively they have killed million and they still doing it every year under close safe guard of Big Brother America.

    Hamas was created because of the war being faced by Palestinian on daily basis because their land had been occupied by the Jews immigrant assisted by the British and American. Come on ...the whole world knows that historical facts.

    Stay awake Infidel ....!!!!
  • right4us
    Chuk - historical facts? You mean the bible, dating back thousands of yrs, kept up by Jewish heritage - that archeology is continuing to confirm as the most substantial and acurate historical record known? Statement from Smithonian Institute = http://www.2think.org/ssotb.shtml

    "On the other hand, much of the Bible, in particular the historical books of the old testament, are as accurate historical documents as any that we have from antiquity and are in fact more accurate than many of the Egyptian, Mesopotamian, or Greek histories."

    In illogical minds: an arab, for example, becomes the posessor of land if he takes it in battle, and therefore entitled to it.. If the UN gives them some land in a brokered deal (no matter who's before) they are entitled to it. But, this is not acceptable to another!!

    Israel has pre-possessed that land, as well as kicked the crap out of a combined arab force in the 6 day war in battle to posess it, and even more land. You mean that history?
  • right4us
    Chuk - ignorance is bliss. Because anyone with any rational intelligence knows that Israel has the military capacity to wipe Gazans off the map, and also kill many many MILLIONS of Muslims. Yet they don't. They pre-warn when they are going to bomb TERRORISTS. If women and children are killed THEY APOLOGIZE.

    Hamas contiually fires rockets AT CIVILIANS, and REJOICES when any Jewish child or woman is killed. Hamas mocked Israel before they began to fight back. Now that Israel has - they complain about them fighting back.

    And, if Hamas had the military capacity Israel does - they would utterly destroy Israel, including women & children.

    infidelsarecool.com/2009/01/01/hamas-mp-we-used-women-and-children-as-human-shields/
    gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/01/ladies-of-hamas-vow-to-blow-themselves.html
    terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/html/human_shield_e.htm
    islam-watch.org/Others/Things-That-Offend-Muslims.htm

    Search youtube for jihad + children and view the many clips of the inhuman acts of a depraved, demented people.

    No Chuk - the retarded ones are the ones who don't know the difference between humanity, and inhumanity - and supports anyone like Hamas.
  • jonah
    If we look at the sources and foundations of modern ways of living, it becomes clear that the whole world is steeped in Jahiliyyah, [Ignorance of the Divine guidance] and all the marvelous material comforts and high-level inventions do not diminish this ignorance. This Jahiliyyah is based on rebellion against God's sovereignty on earth. It transfers to man one of the greatest attributes of God, namely sovereignty, and makes some men lords over others. It is now not in that simple and primitive form of the ancient Jahiliyyah, but takes the form of claiming that the right to create values, to legislate rules of collective behavior, and to choose any way of life rests with men, without regard to what God has prescribed. The result of this rebellion against the authority of God is the oppression of His creatures. Thus the humiliation of the common man under the communist systems and the exploitation of individuals and nations due to greed for wealth and imperialism under the capitalist systems are but a corollary of rebellion against God's authority and the denial of the dignity of man given to him by God.

    In this respect, Islam's way of life is unique, for in systems other that Islam, some people worship others in some form or or another. Only in the Islamic way of life do all men become free from the servitude of some men to others and devote themselves to the worship of God alone, deriving guidance from Him alone, and bowing before Him alone.

    This is where the roads separate, and this is that new concept which we possess and can present to mankind--this and the way of life which this concept organizes for all the practical aspects of man's life. This is that vital message of which mankind does not know. It is not a product of Western invention nor of European genius, whether eastern or western.

    Without doubt, we possess this new thing which is perfect to the highest degree, a thing which mankind does not know about and is not capable of 'producing'.

    But as we have stated before, the beauty of this new system cannot be appreciated unless it takes a concrete form. Hence it is essential that a community arrange its affairs according to it and show it to the world. In order to bring this about, we need to initiate the movement of Islamic revival in some Muslim country. Only such a revivalist movement will eventually attain to the status of world leadership, whether the distance is near or far.
  • Since the good "palestinians" voted Hamas into power, there are no "innocent victims". "Palestinians", like all other muslims, are week cowards. "Palestinians" are weeker than the average muslim because they let themselves be used by Jordan, Egypt, Syria and the rest of the islamic world as pawns.

    "While Israel installs warning systems and builds shelters, Hamas refuses to do so, precisely because it wants to maximize the number of palestinian civilians..."

    a big mistake as far as I'm concerned, kill as many as it takes until the muslim world takes their pawns off the chessboard

    "...inadvertently killed by Israel's military actions. Hamas knows from experience that even a small number of "innocent palestinian civilians" killed inadverently will result in bitter condemnation of Israel by many in the..."

    anti-Semetic

    "...international community."

    from Alan M. Dershowitz ( with a few notes from me:)) in today's WSJ (Jan. 2, 2009)
  • Since the good "palestinians" voted Hamas into power, there are no "innocent victims". "Palestinians", like all other muslims, are week cowards. "Palestinians" are weeker than the average muslim because they let themselves be used by Jordan, Egypt, Syria and the rest of the islamic world as pawns.

    "While Israel installs warning systems and builds shelters, Hamas refuses to do so, precisely because it wants to maximize the number of palestinian civilians..."

    a big mistake as far as I'm concerned, kill as many as it takes until the muslim world takes their pawns off the chessboard

    "...insdvertently killed by Israel's military actions. Hamas knows from experience that even a small number of "innocent palestinian civilians killed inadverently will result in bitter condemnation of Israel by many in the..."

    anti-Semetic

    "...international community."

    from Alan M. Dershowitz ( with a few notes from me:)) in today's WSJ (Jan. 2, 2009)
  • Joan
    I would like to point out that this is an English speaking board and it is not enough to have a little grasp of English words, to take part in a meaningful debate you need to be able to understand and follow the whole of what is being said, who is answering who and what is meant by the answer.
    The command of Engish needed for a message board such as this is to be able to understand and follow more than a very basic childlike English.
  • Joan
    That comment was said by me in relation to a Muslim poster called Belladonna, if you look at her remarks you can draw your own conclusions. It was not said as a general remark.

    since you are obviously twisting what i clearly said to refer to Palestine, then i assume you are in favour of Palestimian rockets being fired on a daily basis into Israel, killing and causing terror to the Israeli people, or are you suggesting they deserve it ?
    Gaza had a clear choice and they chose to continue firing their rockets. The children are the responsibility of their parents who make the choice to continue to fire rockets into Israel and shield those who do.
  • Hello Infidels,

    To these day more innocent children and women shall be killed in the daily genocide of the Gazan by the Zionist army. They don't deserved to live a normal life and killing them is the right things to do! They deserved if don't they ... right Joan ?? ...... because they act or sound like retarded apes ... Joan ?
    http://uruknet.info/?p=m50187&hd=&size=1&...

    The whole world watch in silence as the genocide continues... I guess we are all retarded species unless if the genocidal act happen to us or our loved ones.

    Christian friends
  • right4us
    bella - lol - here is what you sound like in summary: We have the true peaceful religion, and wish you well. Did you just insult me or my religion you filthy swine whore. But, I hold no anger to you you ignorant infidel. And, I truely wish love to you and guidance from allah - even though you jew loving westerners don't deservie it. You deserve hell and I hope you go there fast. By the way, I have no hatred in my heart, only love - unless you offend me, or my religion in any way. And if you do you worthless dog, I hope allah destroys your sorry ass, and you suffer greatly But, I really am a nice person - just don't piss me off, you idiot swine infidel. - Good grief!!
  • Beejj
    True, peaceful religion? "Wish you well, you filthy swine whore"? "Deserve hell, etc"? No hatred in your heart? "You idiot swine infidel." Ah, such words of calm wisdom and loving understanding. I now know Allah's great love and am filled with remorse for not belonging to your Great Faith. If only I had been born as blind as you, you disgusting filth! One day, once the oil has dried up, perhaps, the civilised world will turn upon you and squash you like dogshit that lies on the ground: you are no better. Jew loving Westerners? Are you referring to Einstein and Feynman and Born and Haber? Being a shitty muslim, you probably have never even heard of them. To you, a hero is a man who hides in the caves of Afghanistan or sets about exterminating 6 million European Jews. Look at your record of "valour". What have you done, despite your numbers? Run away. You are nothing. Remember Saddam's words about "the mother of all battles"? We in the West laughed. Muslims offering resistance in open warfare? Yes, and Santa Claus comes every December 25th! You scumbags have done nothing of valour since Saladin. Crap on all you will about Allah and your illiterate paedophile prophet, but there are more than enough of us in the world to piss on your heads.
  • Kal_El
    That was without a doubt the most concise, clear, and precise interpretation of islam I have ever read. :D
  • Joan
    That is why they will never be taken seriously, they act and sound like retarded apes.
  • Hello,

    Hi everybody .... fellow Christian and Muslim too. ... an angry Muslim one. Calm down ... but I must agree it is very intense debate...
  • Have_no_fear
    Kal_EL,

    Quite an imagination you have there mister.... father of Superman huh ? .... I see that you really hate Muhammad and never fail to insult him everytime you mentioned his name.

    Did you know him very well, did he hurt you in any way......? You know very well that you it is none of the above. Don't you find it strange to hate someone that you never even know throughout your entire miserable life preaching hate .......

    Please learn about Jesus Christ first and try to understand his message before you start calling people by names that you do not approve of ur self. Perhaps ... you know all about Jesus Christ ... then help us ....... Seek this answers ... look in the Bible and try to find any lines that Jesus ever command people to become CHRISTIAN !!!

    Cheers
  • Trust me, Kal knows plenty about Muhammed and so do I
  • Have no fear
    hello infidels,

    Strange these peoples really enjoy tagging and condemning their very existances a bit too early. hehehe ... the Muslim knows what i mean. I know what these infidel really wants ...... they enjoy the Muslim scream with anger helplessly.

    Cheers
  • Here we see the true face of Have No Fear. Muslims are always screaming with anger, like the boy who cried wolf.
  • Kal_El
    I do not enjoy the suffering of innocent people. But like the Germans who did nothing while the Nazi's wiped out 30 million plus people, the Gazans are guilty of doing nothing while Hamas launched rockets daily all year long into Israel. An eye for an eye, insha allah
  • Joan
    Have no fear, not you again.

    I know what Islam really wants, to take over my country, and Europe. Now do you not learn from history ? You should remember what happened to you and practice
    "once bitten twice shy "
    It is not going to happen, as I have told you repeatedly in the past.
    Joan of Arc
  • anonymous
    kal el which country do u live in
  • Kal_El
    Now why would I do something like tell you that? So you could report me to the authorities here and get me censored? Get me arrested, tortured and executed for insulting islam?
  • A muslim scholar, so you are qualified to ask me if I want fries with that?
  • So even if you ignore it, it still won't go away. Frustration much?
  • Joan, I guess so.
  • Joan
    The only missinglinks are in Muslims heads.
  • Kal_El
    The only reason spousal abuse appears more prominent among kuffar is because we prosecute people for it, unlike muslims who are celebrated for it and shielded by your muslim governments. For every OJ Simpson, there are at least half a dozen incidents of a muslim beating/mutilatint/killing his wife/sister/mother/daughter over a SUSPECTED act. As for us being leaders in crime, that is also not true. Just because the media in muslim countries are not allowed to report it by the ruling families does not mean it is not happening. I also note that you keep saying we will not win over islam. Ghengis Khan, Charles Martel, and Jan Sobieski all did in the past. We will do so again.
  • Bella no one cares about your opinion. No one wants your approval. If Allah is punishing the US, he has been spitting upon the Middle East for 1400 years.
  • Jacky Trepseudonym of Jennifer Anne, a British woman who ran away from her Egyptian husband in 1992.[1] With the help of ghostwriter Clifford Thurlow she published the book Fatwa: Living with a Death Threat, describing her version of her life with her Egyptian Muslim husband Maged (in her book called Omar). Jacky was twenty-three when she arrived in Egypt for a holiday with her boyfriend, Dave. Separated from Dave in a bustling street, she fell and twisted her ankle, only to be swept up by a young handsome, chivalrous Egyptian. It was, she says in her book, love at first sight. She married him, converted to Islam and lived with him in a poor suburb of Cairo. The couple got two daughters. Their marriage, however, turned sour and Jennifer decided to return back to England. She says a fatwa was issued against her and is thus "living in the shadow of a death threat."[2] The Egyptian publication Al-Fajr spoke with Jennifer's husband, providing a different story and denying many of the claims Jennifer made.[
    vane is the
  • Non-Muslim women should never marry a Muslim man. If they get divorced and he takes the children to an Islamic country she will never see them again.
  • Merry Christmas dear.
  • J from India
    The blogger here has forgotten some additional methods that aren't mentioned in the toilet paper-worthy Quran, so I'm going to take the liberty of "educating" all you infidels.

    When all of the above fails because:

    1) You're weak and you realise your enemy is a little bigger than a school-girl and therefore stronger than you
    2) You're too stupid/uneducated/your throat is parched because water is scarce in the desert rendering you helpless and therefore unable to make coherent coversation.
    3) You forgot your sword back home is Saudi Arabia/ airport security somehow didn't believe your sword was sacred like they believe the Sikhs/ Your mother (also your father's first cousin and your grandfather's mistress) confiscated it when you accidentally chopped your testicles off. (they gave you hell in school for that didn't they?)
    4) People just generally don't believe you/can't be bothered listening to you/ Laugh at the way you speak English and hold their noses every time you walk into the room.

    Then use the following techniques -

    1) Land up in a considerably prosperous and broadminded country where one is generally able to talk to women and look at their faces at the same time without being married to them and children are allowed to keep their innocence.
    2) Beg for asylum (make puppy dog eyes) citing that you can't go back to your own war infested, pathetic excuse for a country that makes the Yearning For Zion guys look like a bunch of noobs.
    3) Beg for a good job. Remember some of the greatest and most successful people in the world had humble beginnings at the local KFC.
    4) Beg for the freedom to construct a place of worship (play race-card here if necessary). They're suckers, they'll melt i promise
    5) Then try to look humble for a while until they make you a part of them. Once this is achieved, call yourself a tax-paying citizen and demand privileges, whine when they worship their fake gods in your presence.
    6) Shout alot when your can't back your beliefs with substantial evidence (common sense is included in the broad category of 'Evidence'), if shouting doesn't work threaten the country with Islamic Jihad being your fundamental right as a citizen of that country. Remember, they will always pander to your sensibilities so don't hesitate to say or do anything. They can't stop you because they're restricted by democracy, social justice, equality in opportunity and political correctness.

    This may be a long and tedious method but don't underestimate the power of patience.

    All the best in your endeavours,

    Mohammedxxx
  • hellosnackbar
    Excellent J from India I think that that article is written in all copies of the Koran(between the lines as it were)
  • hellosnackbar
    Excellent J from India I think that that article is written in all copies of the Koran(between the lines as it were)
  • belladonna
    MAY THE WRATH OF ALLAAH BE UPON YOU AMEEN... YOU FILTHY HOMOSEXUAL WRETCH.
  • mandy
    Guys this is MCM hi chris!!! listen i have been kinda banned from the computer and internet for a good while so you wont see me. Just know that my support is 110 percent behind u guys and keep up the good work. With people like us they can never rule and remember I will never stop fighting for what we know is right. Merry Christmas guys!
  • shiva
    btw guys i love this site it is absolutely hilarious.....

    kal_el is my favourite, would be interesting to know his background... i.e. did he go to scholl, has he ever stepped out of the USA.... but either way i love the guy....

    "Right, and the muslims who invaded North Africa, Europe, Persia, Afghanistan, and India were all peaceful people. Except for the killing desecration of the local holy sites in countries they invaded, the taking of slaves and chattels, the looting and the forced conversion of those they did not kill. Not to mention the muslims today who do all of the above, and have added the suicide bomb to their repetoire."

    umm, muslims ( the moguls ) ruled india for a number of centuries, when the brits took over the muslims were very much still a minority after hundreds of years of muslim rule... 10 hindus to 1 muslim after three hundred years and over the same period the hindu shrines / temples increased 10 fold..... those muslim invaders did a realy crap job didn't they..... israel was ruled on / off by muslims for centuries, yet all the christian / jewish shrines remain intact, anther crap job.... same goes for europe and north africa....
  • Fact is that Muslims are taking over more and more of the world and do not act like Christians, Jews and others are not persecuted across the Islamic world. Now the problem has spread across the West.
  • Ummm... Kal lives in a Muslim Country...
  • KAL IS A SELL OUT REAPING THE BENEFITS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY IN A MUSLIM TAX FREE COUNTRY YET SLANDERING IT... IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEGRITY OR SELF RESPECT THEN YOU WOULD QUESTION HIS CHARACTER BUT YOU HAVE NO VALUES OR STANDARDS THUS YOU WOULD ACCEPT TESTIMONY FROM A PROSTITUTE OR CRIMINAL AS LONG AS IT IS AGAINST ISLAAM BECAUSE YOUR PURPOSE IS TO INCITE EVIL AND ENMITY... YOU ARE NOT SEEKING GOODNESS OR RESOLVE... YOU MAY BENEFIT IN MAKING AN APPLICATION TO OXFORD UNIVERSITY LONDON... IF THEY ACCEPT YOU. YOU MAY THEN LEARN A THING OR TWO,. REMEMBER DEATH AND THE MEETING WITH YOUR LORD ALLAAH,
  • Kal_El
    Speak for yourself, khanzir
  • PLEASE WATCH THIS IN IT'S ENTIRETY. IT WILL TAKE TIME TO LOAD AND ABOUT TWO HOURS TO WATCH. http://www.911missinglinks.com/
  • In all other circumstances, camel urine or ANY animal urine is prohibited.

    As for human urine, it is forbidden no matter what; the Prophet Muhammad told us that it is simply waste matter, and is filthy and impure (a Muslim can not pray if he has any on his clothes).
  • While many people are aware that Gandhi drank his urine, few know that leather-clad rocker Jim Morrison began the practice of drinking his urine while on an LSD-induced spiritual quest in the Mojave Desert. One of the more famous modern day cases involves movie star Steve McQueen, who, it is said, in the last stages of cancer, survived solely on a diet of urine and boiled alligator skin prescribed by his Mexican doctors.

    An enterprising young company has come up with a way to trap medically powerful proteins from urine. Enzymes of America has designed a special filter that collects important urine proteins, and these filters have been installed in all of the men's urinals in the 10,000 portable outhouses owned by the Porta-John company, a subsidiary of Enzymes of America.
  • Indian yogis reportedly have been drinking their urine as a cure for more than 5,000 years. More than 600 scientists gathered in Goa, India, for the first World Conference on Auto-Urine Therapy in February 1996. Some proponents in attendance believe human urine can treat everything from baldness to cancer and AIDS. The use of urine as a topical rub and drink not only is common in India, but also in Japan and Germany and a growing number of countries. At least two books, "The Golden Fountain: The Complete Guide to Urine Therapy," by Coen van der Kroon, and "Your Own Perfect Medicine," by Martha Christy, provide more info on “Urine-Therapy”.

    The Second World Conference on Urine Therapy, held last month in Gersfeld, Germany. There, in a tiny resort two hours outside Frankfurt, the Nicholses and 250 other health enthusiasts -- several dozen with M.D. after their names -- from more than 40 countries spent four days debating, discussing and charting the future of one of the world's oldest but least respected healing arts.
  • Islam’s stance-Conclusion

    First of all, let us clarify the reason and story behind the prescription. Some people had become very ill at the time of the prophet, and were suffering from an unknown illness. Their bellies had swollen and they were not in a fit state. Hence, the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said to them, that they would find a cure in the milk and urine of a camel and so he sent them out to an area where camels were grazing fresh herbs. These men went to this area and drank the milk and urine. Sure enough, just like the Prophet said, they were cured and became fit and healthy.

    Yet the Prophet had said in another Prophetic saying that body excretions, such as blood, pus, urine, etc, was filthy and prohibited in Islamic law. It is Islamically prohibited for a Muslim to drink their urine. Muslim scholars came to the conclusion that the real meaning of this the Prophets odd prescription is that if a person needs to consume an impure and impermissible substance as a cure for an illness, and no other reasonable alternative is available, then it is permissible
  • A researcher from a teaching hospital in the Sudan presented a study of 30 patients with ascites -- an accumulation of serum in the abdominal cavity that causes distended stomachs -- that found that they responded slightly better to 150 ml of camel urine a day than to a standard medicine, the diuretic frusimide. And a Chinese pharmaceutical company reported that in a clinical study, its urine-derived cancer drug CDA-II cured 61 percent of patients, compared with a 30 percent cure rate for chemotherapy.
  • hellosnackbar
    So folks drink camel piss!it's the Islanic panacea.
  • Recent News in the Urine/Medical Issue: In New York City, alternative health guru Gary Null has devoted several segments of his popular radio program on WBAI (99.5 FM, 12 noon, Monday through Friday) to extolling the benefits of the urine cure. acording to Dr. Beatrice Bartnett in her pamphlet, Urine-Therapy: It May Save Your Life: “morning urine is the richest and best urine to drink, partially due to the greater level of hormonal secretion that takes place in the late night hours when the body is totally relaxed and repairing itself.”
  • Islam is nothing more than a con made up by Mohammad.
  • ALL PRAISES BE TO ALLAAH WHO HAS NOT BEGOTTEN A CHILD, AND WHO HAS NO PARTNER IN HIS DOMINION, NOR IS HE IN NEED OF HAVING A HELPER, PROTECTOR OR SUPPORTER. I MAGNIFY HIM WITH ALL MAGNIFICENCE. I TESTIFY THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH ALONE WITH WHO THERE IS NO PARTNER, THE ONE, THE SUSTAINER WHO BEGETS NOT NOR WAS HE BEGOTTEN AND THERE IS NON COMPARABLE TO HIM. I TESTIFY THAT MUHAMMAD IS THE SERVANT OF ALLAAH AND HIS MESSENGER WHO HE SENT WITH THE GUIDANCE AND WITH THE RIGHT RELIGION IN ORDER THAT IT WILL OVERCOME ALL FALSE BELIEFS AND ALLAAH IS SUFFICIENT AS A WITNESS. VERILY, ALLAAH, EXALTED BE HE, MADE MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) THE LAST OF THE PROPHETS AND SO, HE PERFECTED THE RELIGION (I.E. ISLAAM) FOR HIM AND FOR HIS NATION. MOREOEVER, HE SENT HIM AFTER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME HAD PASSED IN THE SERIES OF PROPHETHOOD.
  • THE TRUTHFUL RELIGION PROVIDES PROOFS AND EXACTNESS AND TRUTH FOR WHOEVER CONTEMPLATES IT AND FOR WHOEVER UNDERTAKES TO DEFEND IT. THEREFORE, THE TRUE RELIGION STRENGTHENS ONE'S CERTAINTY AND INCREASES THE FAITH OF THE BELIEVERS. THUS, THE LIGHT OF ITS GUIDANCE ILLUMINATES THE HEARTS OF ALL MANKIND. WHENEVER A DISPUTANT DEFENDS A FALSE RELIGION, HE IS TRYING TO STRAIGHTEN ITS CURVED STEM BUT ALLAAH THE ALMIGHTY WILL UNDOUBTEDLY SEND THE MEANS TO HURL THE TRUTH AGAINST FALSEHOOD, AND REFUTE ITS CLAIMS, AND BEHOLD FALSEHOOD PERISHES! THEN, ITS HIDDEN CORRUPTION WILL BE EXPOSED AFTER HAVING BEEN PREVIOUSLY UNKNOWN TO MOST PEOPLE.
  • How can muslims be so sure that their religion is the only religion of truth? Only because Muhhamad told so? Islam came almost 15 hundred years later than christianity had done. How can the koran say that before the only "true" religion came, there had been darkness? How can islam be the only "true" religion when it preaches so much hatred and intolerance towards other, non-muslim people? Judging from what is going on in the world today, the only "true" religion DOES illuminate the heatrs of "true believers" - with hatred and menace
  • MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM), WAS SENT WHEN FALSE BELIEFS AND PRACTICES HAD BECOME WIDESPREAD AND OVERWHELMING, AND WHEN THE RIGHT PATH WAS BURIED BENEATH THE QUAGMIRE OF DEVIATION TO FALSE DEITIES. SO, THROUGH MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) ALLAAH REVIVED WHAT HAD BEEN EFFACED. THROUGH HIM (PEACE BE UPON HIM) HE SUPRESSED THE POLYTHEISTS AND INFIDELS WHO WERE WORSHIPPING IDOLS, FIRE AND THE CROSS. THROUGH HIM, HE HUMILIATED THE DISBELIEVERS FROM AMONGST THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK (CHRISTIANS AND JEWS), AND THOSE WHO DOUBTED AND WERE SUSPICIOUS. IN FACT, ISLAAM IS THE RELIGION WITH WHICH ALL MESSENGERS AND PROPHETS HAD BEEN SENT,AND THUS, NO RELIGION IS ACCEPTED FROM ANY HUMAN BEING OTHER THAN ISLAM. THIS ALSO APPLIES TO THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) AND THOSE WHO WILL COME AFTERWARDS, FOR IT IS THE RELIGION OF THE PROPHETS AND THEIR SINCERE FOLLOWERS.
  • Islam, as I have already told once, is a synthetic religion - muhammad did not say anything new, almost everything that he preaches was taken, first of all, form JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY, ZOROASTRISM and many pagan tribal traditions. To pray in the direction of mecca, muhammad "borrowed" from the jews, who prayed in the direction of jerusalem. At first, muhammed also told "believers" to pray in the direstion of jerusalem in the hopes that the jews would take his newly invented religion, but they turned muhammad as a prophet, alomg with his religion. Not to eat pork - was also jewish idea, which muhammad again "borrowed" from the jews for his new religion. After turning down by the jews, muhammad decided to pray in the direction of mecca which at that time was completely a pagan place inhabited with the arabic nomads who were worshipping different deities.
  • IT IS AMAZING HOW AN IGNORANT KAFIR LIKE YOU WHO HAS ZERO KNOWLEDGE OF THE QUR'AAN, SUNNAH, OR ARABIC LANGUAGE CAN MAKE SUCH ERRONEOUS STATEMENTS. VERILY YOUR IGNORANCE IN ITSELF IS A HUMILIATION. SHAME SHAME SHAME
  • MADAM IGNORAMOUS, PROVE THAT ISLAAM IS SYNTHETIC.
  • Kal_El
    Prove that it is not. I DARE YOU. Oh wait, you cannot.
  • YOU ARE AN OPPRESSOR. THE KAFIRS ARE THE MOST RUTHLESS PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH.
  • Kal_El
    Right, and the muslims who invaded North Africa, Europe, Persia, Afghanistan, and India were all peaceful people. Except for the killing desecration of the local holy sites in countries they invaded, the taking of slaves and chattels, the looting and the forced conversion of those they did not kill. Not to mention the muslims today who do all of the above, and have added the suicide bomb to their repetoire.
  • only after you, dear "believers"!!!!!!
  • AGAIN, YOU ARE SPEAKING THAT WHICH YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF. EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS 100% WRONG. SATAN IS WITH YOU. I DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU TOLD ME ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN YOUR COUNTRY RATHER I THINK THAT YOU ARE THE INSTIGATOR LOOKING FOR PROBLEMS. MAY ALLAAH PUNISH YOU FOR THE SLANDER YOU MAKE. AND BY THE WAY DON'T DICTATE THE PLAY TO ME AND TELL ME ABOUT MY RELIGION. YOU ARE THE EPITOMY OF IGNORANCE AND A WASTE OF TIME. REMEMBER DEATH.
  • If he is a waste of time, why do you keep on coming back here?
  • I think, satan is with you, not with me. I am not an instigator - it is you who came here and preach your religion. If you are happy with it, nobody has anything against it - just keep it with you. We all know about islam - we are not fundamentalists and brainwashed. We are not deprived of reasoning and can come with our OWN conclusions! You don't dictate the play to me and tell me about MY religion. This is you who is a complete waste of time - you are not able to argue and are so powerless that can only spit around with your venomous muslim
    curses...
  • THE SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS DO NOT FOLLOW THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF JESUS RATHER THEY FOLLOW MANMADE LAWS. THE TAWRAH AND BIBLE WERE CHANGED THUS THE REVELATION OF THE QUR'AAN. YOU HAVE ENMITY IN YOUR HEART AND YOU HAVE PERSONAL ISSUES THAT YOU ARE USING AGAINST ISLAAM. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ISLAAM THUS I ADVISE YOU TO GO AND STUDY IT. YOU ARE MALICIOUS AND SARCASTIC AND I DO NOT THINK YOU HAVE AN ATOMS WEIGHT OF SINCERITY IN YOUR HEART. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW YOU RATIONALISE IN YOUR SMALL LIMITED MIND... IT IS WHAT ALLAAH SAYS THAT PREVAILS. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE BEEN RELYING ON THE MEDIA TOO MUCH AND I FEEL THAT YOU ARE STUBBORN IN YOUR THINKING THUS DO AS YOU WILL BUT BEWARE THAT DEATH IS A REALITY AND THIS WILL STAND AGAINST YOU AS PROOF ON YAUMAL QIYAMAH (JUDGEMENT DAY). CIAO..
  • WE ARE SURE BECAUSE THE QUR'AAN IS A PROOF THUS IF YOU WISH TO ARGUE AGAINST IT THEN GIVE PROOF THAT IT IS NOT FROM ALLAAH. AGAIN, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR PROBLEMS, BLAME AND FAULT. READ THE QUR'AAN. AND YOU MAY UNDERSTAND. ISLAAM IS NOT THE CAUSE OF THIS WORLD'S PROBLEMS RATHER ISLAAM IS THE SOLUTION BUT YOU ARE UPON YOUR WHIMS AND DESIRES AND SATAN IS WHISPERING INTO YOUR HEART. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN KNOWING YOUR CREATOR. ESSA (JESUS) DID NOT PREACH CHRISTIANITY RATHER HE PREACHED TAWHEED OF ALLAAH (THE ONENESS OF ALLAAH) AND HE WAS MUSLIM BECAUSE MUSLIM MEANS SUBMIT TO ALLAAH..
  • Kal_El
    You demand we give proof the quran is not from allah, yet what proof do you offer that it is, other than the rantings of the pedophile, piss drinker Muhammad?
  • THE PROPHET SALLALLAAHU ALAYHE WASALLAM SAID, "THERE WILL BE MANY WOMEN IN JAHANNAM [HELLFIRE]. KEEP UP WITH YOUR EVIL DEEDS YOU EVIL SHAYTAANAH UGLY JEALOUS SLANDERER WICKED SPITEFUL SLAVE OF THIS EARTH.
  • Kal_El
    Yeah, Muhammad was a mysogynist, as well as a pedophile. Funny that the one thing he always lusted for (women), is the thing he condemns to hell the most. One wonders where the 72 virgins in paradise come from. Unless it is 72 virgin males...
  • DUA'A AL MADHLOOM
    ALLAAHUMMA ALL KNOWER, ALL WISE, ALL HEARING, ALL SEEING, PUNISH THIS EVIL WOMAN [MIGRO] FOR THE EVIL SLANDER SHE HAS MADE AGAINST MUHAMMAD SALLALLAAHU ALAYHE WASALLAM AND YOUR DEEN. ALLAAHUMMA MAKE THE PEOPLE OF THIS EARTH HATE HER, ALLAAHUMMA LET NO MAN LOVE OR BE ATTRACTED TO HER, ALLAAHUMMA MAKE HER FAMILY ABANDON HER, ALLAAHUMMA LET HER COLLEAGUES FIND HER INCOMPETENT AND DISLIKE HER, ALLAAHUMMA AFFLICT HER WITH ELEPHANTIASIS WITHOUT REMISSION, ALLAAHUMMA PROTECT ME AND ALL THE MUSLIMS FROM HER EVIL EYES, EVIL TONGUE, EVIL INTENTIONS AND EVIL LIMBS, ALLAAHUMMA LET HUMILIATION DESCEND UPON HER UNTIL THE ANGEL OF DEATH COMES FOR HER AMEEN. ALHAMDULILLAAHIR RABBIL ALAMEEN.
  • Kal_El
    Funny, I always hear from muslims I hang out with that allah doesn't see what is going on in Bahrain. If that is true, then allah is not really all seeing. Either you are lying, or the hundreds who have told me that are. Hmmmm
  • It's just amazing - almost all muslims think they have both the right and freedom to criticize the bible for being contradictory and corrupted but if someone dares to say anything about the koran - the muslims go completely mad! Is it so hard for muslims to get - if they are entitled to criticize the bible, or other holy books, non-muslims have exactly the same right to criticize the koran. This is not a case to lose all the sound reason; anyway, if a religion is against researching its holy book by logic, then, for sure, it has something to hide!!!!!! Take off your rosy glasses and look realistically; the koran is FULL of contradictions - shall I start pointing to the relevant suras right now, or you know it but pretending you do not know all the blemishes in it? By the way, where is the original version of the koran??? All islamic scholars are trumpeting that it exists, but on the question "where?" - they just make stupid faces. BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST!!!!!!! The Koran, which exists at present is a
    FRAUD! On the islamic traditions: every belief and custom in islam can be traced back to preislamic
    pagan arabic society. Your prophet DID NOT preach anything new, everything he "taught" had existed and been practised in arabia long long before he was born. Even the idea of "only one god" was borrowed from the christians and jews. So, girl, use your brain and make a conclusion who is an infidel! And spare all your filthy curses for your muslim brothers!
  • AntharaX
    Iam an atheist. I don't believe in existance of god. I do believe in Science N fact. All the credit for the kind of lives we have now goes to Science.And the fact is "every wrong doing has wrong and bad consequences". As the world have been watching and seeing these islamic terrorists spreading violance and terrors e.g.killing,beheading,honor killing,child and women abusing etc.,of course they will go through bad consequences sooner or later. This is a fact. The price has to be paid not only by guilty ones but also those educated and intellectual muslims who are not taking initiatives to stop these crimes being committed by uneducated and brainwashed muslims. Never ever imagine this world could be ruled by sick Muslims.
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