Rick Santorum calls for all-out-war with Radical Islam

by Infidelesto on April 12, 2008 · Comments

Great speech by Santorum at Yale yesterday.  

Zip adds: “Anyone else get the feeling Santorum reads blogs? The way he’s talking shows he has a much deeper knowledge base than if you just read the MSM….

Yale Daily News

Amid a chorus of condemning hisses, supportive banging and outright laughter, former Republican Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum argued for war with radical Islam at the Yale Political Union debate Thursday night.

As part of a speaking tour throughout various college campuses about the dangers of Islamic extremism, Santorum spoke before a full house in Sterling-Sheffield-Strathcona Hall on the importance of defining the enemy in the “War on Islamic Extremism” — the subject of the debate — and on the historical roots of the clash between Islamic and Judeo-Christian culture. After the event, many students interviewed agreed with Santorum that dangerous extremists who tend to justify violence through the Quran do exist. But most went on to emphatically dispute his claim that Islam is a fundamentally violent religion.

For Santorum, though, any lingering questions about the necessity of America’s war with Islamic extremists are in no way moral. Rather, he said, they are practical.

“We absolutely must confront this enemy,” he said. “The real question is ‘Will the American People be willing to fight?’ ”

Resistance to the war is the result of America not knowing its enemy and instead clouding the mission with political correctness and more palatable jargon, Santorum said. He specifically targeted the characterization of America’s military efforts in the Middle East as a “War on Terror.”

“How can you be at war against a military tactic?” he asked. “FDR had the courage to offend people and called the Germans Nazis, and the Italians Fascists … Congress, on the other hand, has sugarcoated the enemy so as not to offend anyone. Seven years into a war and people still can’t tell the difference between Sunni and Shi’a.”

Santorum’s criticism of the handling of the war in American politics was focused even more fiercely against the political left.

He argued — amid impassioned banging of support and opposing hissing — that the left should recognize that the “Islamo-Fascis world” is the antithesis to everything the left embodies.

“The very principles the left holds dear in the United States, such as feminism, homosexual rights, separation of church and state, and the elimination of anti-Semitism are the ones the Islamo-Facists violate,” Santorum said. “[The left says] the enemy hates us because of us, that [the extremists] are victims of imperialism and Zionism, that it is our fault, and that if we walked away they would leave us alone.”

But many in the audience said they were not convinced that warfare and Santorum’s rhetoric are the best ways to deal with Islamic extremism.

“There are people who use Islam to justify violence and there are strains of Islam that are antithetical to western civilization, but [Santorum] is wrong on the question of how deal with those groups,” Matthew Ellison ’10 said. “Our challenge is to convince others that the liberal values we hold dear are worth subscribing to. When we use the rhetoric of war we are pushing the moderates away from us and emboldening the extremists.”

Santorum seemed to remain unfazed by any skepticism in the audience and only got louder as he argued for the origins of Islamic extremism in the religion’s founding.

He offered a contrast between Jesus Christ and Muhammed as the basis for the irreconcilable differences between Christianity, which he linked to the West, and Islam, which he linked to the Middle East.

“The greatest Christian, the Messiah, is Jesus — he never ruled a country, never forced anyone to convert,” Santorum said. “Islam, on the other hand, was founded by Muhammed who went on to conquer much of the Middle East and Northern Africa.”

He pointed to how Muslim leaders of Spain, centuries ago, gave nonbelievers the option of converting or facing death. He did not mention the Spanish Inquisition, and he excused episodes of Christian violence as “misguidance.”

This message did not sit well with some in the audience who did not appreciate what they termed a “history lesson.”

“I don’t think Rick Santorum is qualified to give us a lecture on the history of Islam,” Benjamin Chaidell ’11 said. “He oversimplifies the religion of Islam and the struggle against Islam as an ‘us vs. them’ phenomenon.”

Syed Salah Ahmed ’11 took issue with the way Santorum interpreted Islamic thinkers like Madudi and Syed Qutb (Qutb is the ideologue behind al-Qaeda -ed.) out of their contexts. Ahmed said that Islamic fundamentalism is a reaction against British — and now American — imperialism.

hattip: Creeping Sharia

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  • Kal_El
    She damn sure tried. Then when that blew up in her face, she claimed Iran was responsible for the success of the surge. She is nothing but a traitor to the United States, whose passport should be shredded, citizenship revoked, and shipped off to Iran to live.
  • VinceP1974
    I left this comment on the site... it's in the moderation holding pattern:

    I agree with #3's comment 100%. The snotty know-nothing who gave this quote:

    "“I don’t think Rick Santorum is qualified to give us a lecture on the history of Islam,” Benjamin Chaidell ’11 said. “He oversimplifies the religion of Islam and the struggle against Islam as an ‘us vs. them’ phenomenon.” "

    Where to start... well first off.. this know-nothing is not qualified to state that Santorum is wrong.

    I heard Santorum give a lecture on Islam in the past.. the man understands the relevant parts and distinctions.

    What so many know-nothings seem not to understand is that the doctrine of Jihad and the imperative to Islamize the whole planet and by force if necessary IS A COMMON DOCTRINE in all schools of Islam.

    Just like there's a bazillion protestant denominations, for the most part they all share a common core... and in Islam, Jihad is one of the common cores.

    This notion that Islam is so complexly fractured is the oversimplification.

    What is true is that Muslims, since they're people, run the full spectrum of fever , belief, interest, adherence , etc.. to these doctrines.

    That's not the point.. the Jihad doctrine is there in Islam... waiting for some Muslims somewhere to pursue it as Allah commands.

    If I hear one more idiot direct the "Islam is peace" platitude to a critic of Islam, I’m going to explode.

    Oh Apologist for Islam: you don’t need to convince us Non-Muslims that Islam is peace... you need to convince the ever-growing number of Muslims who fully accept this hadith from Bukahri:

    Volume 1, Book 2, Number 25; Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

    And then there was this quote in the article:

    “There are people who use Islam to justify violence and there are strains of Islam that are antithetical to western civilization, but [Santorum] is wrong on the question of how deal with those groups,” Matthew Ellison ’10 said. “Our challenge is to convince others that the liberal values we hold dear are worth subscribing to. When we use the rhetoric of war we are pushing the moderates away from us and emboldening the extremists.”

    Another genius. Obviously he doesn’t understand that according to Islam, all man-made laws , forms of government, etc.. is a direct offense against Allah.

    Per Islam, Allah has demanded that all humans live according to Allah's will and by the behavioral example set by Mohammed.

    Please Matthew.. dazzle us with your skills of persuasion as you attempt to convince an Imam who believes that the US Constitution is a grave sin against Allah that liberal ideas are really cool!

    Try to tell them that these two imperatives (one from the Koran and one Hadith (Bukhari)) don't mean what they say.. these are the marching orders given to Muslims for all time to accomplish...


    Koran
    8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world].


    Hadith
    Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24; Narrated Ibn Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

    Islam is a declaration of war against the world, and what do the college students say? "Oh we need to be sensitive to them" No, I don’t think so. They need to understand we will not submit.

    it's shameful how stupid and arrogant college students are. The Left is destroying the ability to think. So wrapped up in some bizarre subjective way of thinking.
  • Tonto
    Actually I don't give two shits about muslims, mohammad, mullahs, sharia, diarrhea, or gangreah. I don't like people that say things like "death to America", burn my flag or attack my country or my countrymen. Fuck 'em. They need to die. They can keep their fucked up religion and their fucked up customs over there. If they are lucky enough to come here and don't want to assimilate, them they need to go back to the mooslimb shithole they crawled out of and good riddance to them. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
  • Storm-Rider
    There are two aspects to the war in which we are now engaged, something that should be stressed by leaders like Rick Santorum.

    One is the kinetic war against violent Islamic fighters who see themselves engaged in Holy Jihad against non-Muslims, ultimately with the purpose of imposing Sharia law and a new Islamic Caliphate. This, of course is important because without the violence of our military forces exercised in the defense of our lives and liberty, we would be exposed to their violence - same as in World War II with Nazi Germany. This aspect of war is the animal side of war - kill or be killed - and this has been a reality of human existence since the beginning of the human species, and it won't change as long as our genetic makeup remains as it is.

    The second is political and rhetorical war against Muslim religious/political leaders and followers who agitate politically for the adoption or imposition of Sharia law over current Western laws based upon Judeo-Christian and Western Enlightenment values. This is cerebral war, not animal war; but it is in fact more important than the first in the long run. All liberty-loving people the world over, including Muslims, should be engaged in this second type of war against the injustice of liberty-killing Sharia law.

    The adoption of Sharia law, even through a democratic process, would be a similar situation to that of the adoption of Nazi law in 1930's Germany - it can be voted in once - then no more voting - it was then, and would be now the end of liberty.
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