Lefties Suddenly Care About the War On Terror

by Infidelesto on November 19, 2008 · Comments

Al Qaeda #2, Ayman Al Zawahiri, came out with a tape today ridiculing the Obama Presidency as “the direct opposite of honorable black Americans” and called Obama a “house negro”.

Of course the left is up in arms about this, not for the fact that he’s one of the leading terrorists in the world, and partially responsible for the death of thousands of Americans and other Westerners,  but the fact that he’s raaaaacist really gets the blood pumping of the lunatics on the left…

Al-Qaida’s No. 2 leader used a racial epithet to insult Barack Obama in a message posted Wednesday, describing the president-elect in demeaning terms that imply he does the bidding of whites.

The message appeared chiefly aimed at persuading Muslims and Arabs that Obama does not represent a change in U.S. policies. Ayman al-Zawahri said in the message, which appeared on militant Web sites, that Obama is “the direct opposite of honorable black Americans” like Malcolm X, the 1960s African-American rights leader.

In al-Qaida’s first response to Obama’s victory, al-Zawahri also called the president-elect–along with secretaries of state Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice–”house negroes.”

Speaking in Arabic, al-Zawahri uses the term “abeed al-beit,” which literally translates as “house slaves.” But al-Qaida supplied English subtitles of his speech that included the translation as “house negroes.”

Malkin: Obama thinks Zawahiri lacks…empathy

Here is the translation of the message as released by as-Sahab, al-Qaeda’s media wing. (Thanks Jawa)

In the Name of Allah, and all Praise is due to Allah, and Prayers and Peace on the Messenger of Allah and on his family, Companions and allies.Muslim brothers everywhere: Peace be upon you and the Mercy of Allah and His blessings. As for what comes after:

Barack Obama has won the presidency of the United States of America, and on this occasion, I would like to send several messages.

First, a message of congratulations to the Muslim Ummah on the American people’s admission of defeat in Iraq. Although the evidence of America’s defeat in Iraq appeared years ago, Bush and his administration continued to be stubborn and deny the brilliant midday sun.

If Bush has achieved anything, it is in his transfer of America’s disaster and predicament to his successor. But the American people, by electing Obama, declared its anxiety and apprehension about the future towards which the policy of the likes of Bush is leading it, and so it decided to support someone calling for withdrawal from Iraq.

The second of these messages is to the new president of the United States. I tell him: you have reached the position of president, and a heavy legacy of failure and crimes awaits you. A failure in Iraq to which you have admitted, and a failure in Afghanistan to which the commanders of your army have admitted.

The other thing to which I want to bring your attention is that what you’ve announced about how you’re going to reach an understanding with Iran and pull your troops out of Iraq to send them to Afghanistan is a policy which was destined for failure before it was born.

It appears that you don’t know anything about the Muslim Ummah and its history, and the fate of the traitors who cooperated with the invaders against it, and don’t know anything about the history of Afghanistan and its free and defiant Muslim people.

And if you still want to be stubborn about America’s failure in Afghanistan, then remember the fate of Bush and Pervez Musharraf, and the fate of the Soviets and British before them. And be aware that the dogs of Afghanistan have found the flesh of your soldiers to be delicious, so send thousands after thousands to them.

As for the crimes of America which await you, it appears that you continue to be captive to the same criminal American mentality towards the world and towards the Muslims. The Muslim Ummah received with extreme bitterness your hypocritical statements to and stances towards Israel, which confirmed to the Ummah that you have chosen a stance of hostility to Islam and Muslims.

You represent the direct opposite of honorable black Americans like Malik al-Shabazz, or Malcolm X (may Allah have mercy on him). You were born to a Muslim father, but you chose to stand in the ranks of the enemies of the Muslims, and pray the prayer of the Jews, although you claim to be Christian, in order to climb the rungs of leadership in America.

And so you promised to back Israel, and you threatened to strike the tribal regions in Pakistan, and to send thousands more troops to Afghanistan, in order for the crimes of the American Crusade in it to continue. And last Monday, your aircraft killed 40 Afghan Muslims at a wedding party in Kandahar.

As for Malik al-Shabazz (may Allah have mercy on him), he was born to a black pastor killed by white bigots, but Allah favored him with guidance to Islam, and so he prided himself on his fraternity with the Muslims, and he condemned the crimes of the Crusader West against the weak and oppressed, and he declared his support for peoples resisting American occupation, and he spoke about the worldwide revolution against the Western power structure.

That’s why it wasn’t strange that Malik al-Shabazz (may Allah have mercy on him) was killed, while you have climbed the rungs of the presidency to take over the leadership of the greatest criminal force in the history of mankind and the leadership of the most violent Crusade ever against the Muslims.

And in you and in Colin Powell, Rice and your likes, the words of Malcolm X (may Allah have mercy on him) concerning “House Negroes” are confirmed.You also must appreciate, as you take over the presidency of America during its Crusade against Islam and Muslims, that you are neither facing individuals nor organizations, but are facing a Jihadi awakening and renaissance which is shaking the pillars of the entire Islamic world; and this is the fact which you and your government and country refuse to recognize and pretend not to see.

As for the third message, it is to the Muslim Ummah. I tell it: America, the criminal, trespassing Crusader, continues to be the same as ever, so we must continue to harm it, in order for it to come to its senses, because its criminal, expansionist Crusader project in your lands has only been neutralized by the sacrifices of your sons, the Mujahideen. This, then, is the path, so stick to it.

As for the fourth message, it is to the lions of Islam, the Mujahideen. I tell them: may Allah reward you in the best way for your historic heroics, which have ruined America’s plans and rendered its projects ineffective. So be firm and resolute. Your enemy’s stagger has begun, so don’t stop hitting him.

And I say to my brothers the Mujahideen in Iraq in general and the Islamic State of Iraq in particular, and to its Amir, the towering mountain Abu ‘Umar al-Baghdadi: your enemy has admitted defeat, and the forthcoming stage is expected to be dominated by conspiracies and betrayals in order to cover the American withdrawal, so you must persevere, for victory is in an hour of perseverance.

And I tell my brothers, the lions of Islam in Somalia: rejoice in victory and conquest. America is gathering its wounds in Iraq, and Ethiopia is looking for a way out, and for this reason, the stage of conspiracies and machinations has begun. So hold tightly to the truth for which you have given your lives, and don’t put down your weapons before the Mujahid state of Islam and Tawheed has been set up in Somalia.

And I tell all Mujahideen everywhere: the Hubal of the age has begun to falter and recede, and Allah has granted you success and honored you by making you the most important cause of that, so be resolute on the path of Jihad until you meet your Lord while He is pleased with you.

And my fifth message is to all the world’s weak and oppressed. I tell them: America has put on a new face, but its heart full of hate, mind drowning in greed, and spirit which spreads evil, murder, repression and despotism continue to be the same as always. And the Mujahideen of Islam, by the grace of Allah, continue to be the spearhead of the resistance against it to restrain it from injustice, aggression and arrogance.

As for my final message, it is to the American people. I tell it: you incurred defeat and losses from the foolish actions of Bush and his gang, and at the same time, Shaykh Usama bin Ladin (may Allah preserve him) sent you a message to withdraw from the lands of the Muslims and refrain from stealing their treasures and interfering in their affairs. So choose for yourself whatever you like, and bear the consequences of your choice, and as you judge, you will be judged.

And our final prayer is that all praise is due to Allah, Lord of the Worlds, and may Allah send prayers and peace on our Master Muhammad and his family and Companions.

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  • Chris
    Carolyne,
    <div>   There are only  a handful of them that actually care about America. Tom Tancredo is one of them.</div>
  • Chris:
    POWER FREAK
    is the absolute truth, on all those evil ones in Washington, Numbers: 32:23  - BEHOLD YOU HAVE SINNED AGAINST THE LORD AND BE SURE YOUR SIN WILL FIND YOU OUT.   That will be the bitter end to this greedy, lustful, laschivious bastards in Washington DC and their usurper Obama.  They are the terror, and more and more you see the blatant sin rising from the bottomless pit.  Look who Obama is surrounding himself with, Samantha Powers (Jew Hater) for 'the one,' then add Hitlary, to the bad mix, that will make a cat fight, for sure.  Tonto you are right on Obama lacking the mental debth to be prez, but he is getting the ones around him to do the job for him, understanding he must rise quickly and make quick work of his sinister plans, knowing his time is short.

    As I said:  The Washington DC Madames, Pimps, Eunuchs will eat each other up.  Misery loves company, and their is plenty of misery alright, and plenty of guilt to go around.  Oh and Obama is pushing for this live abortion ASAP.  He seems so concerned to get that through, like it's a matter of life and death.  Must be something that drives a man like that, IMO it
    has everything to do with his past, and his whore mother.  Obama is a control freak in a very evil dark way,  it boils out and over him with his choices, and all consuming drive. He gets a high with it, and can't stop unless he is stopped.  Better pray the constitution stops him, or we will have a usurper for prez. and he's already out of control, been given too much power already, very wrong, and evil.
  • Chris
    I agree with Tonto again. Obama is a power freak who is going to bully anyone in his way. In the end I believe that he will anger even many of his fellow Democrats.
  • BO the hero, give me a break.  so Now he's the nice guy, a delusion, but nice???
    as Hell. This is really out of control, and O is just the prez elect???  Too much rush going on, like they are going to get found out, so got to get this done.
    Are you sick of this garbage?  BO is stinky, smelling of of many rat finks. Soros,  Obama's god standing close by, foaming at the mouth, so covert and sinister looking, lusting for America, to screw so he can get to Israel.
    Soros is arch enemy of Israel.   So there is your TERROR WAR, each one with an itchy trigger finger on a WMD.
  • I would love to read MO's paper, just JEA!

    NOW down to the nitty gritty.
    Mike in the Morning, talking with Kenyan Ambassador Peter Ogeo - admits:
    DA!   DA!  three guesses - go listen to audio.   Also on March Report - Kenyan
    Ambassador Peter Ogego - Admits Obama Born in Kenya. 

    Audio on March report, heard it myself.  Well, let's just see it hit the fan NOW.
    Boy/girl MO is going to not only going to be JEA  but MAD!
  • jennyjen
    I read Michelle's little paper and yes mam she does not care for white folk. What I don't get, all these people like Michelle O, calling for equality among the races and tearing down the walls that divide us. They are the first to holla Racism and put the walls back up. No matter how much "whitey" does, it will never do. So I think we should act how we want, when we want ;)
  • typo:  need contacts in:  I repeat:  MO is JUST JEA, of whites.  Well it needed repeating anyway, since no one had noticed ever.  Ha Ha  :)
  • OH, jennyjen:  Left out one more profile study on MO!  
    Michelle is us just JEA of whites, or anything that looks decent or has a kind heart.  She an idol worshiper,  HER!

    BO is like a goose (who's cooked) and wakes up in a new world every morning.
    HIS!  
    That is where the name 'his & her' towels came from,  only now
    it's  him & him  :)  her & her  :)   God only knows what's next!

    This info is free for all of you to use, whenever you choose!
    Just:  Spread the guilt around.
  • OMG  Simon:  Lets not dignify that with an answer,  NEXT!  Where have you been all your life?   Not on planet earth.  Innocence is only cute in babies, but
    could get you killed when you grow up.  No harm intended from me, but be
    careful.
  • jennyjen you nailed MO but deep seated issues reign with torment in her, as she is on a destructive mission.  IMO  MO has a lustful hate for America and a get even white obsession.  What the Hell, if she has to spread her legs to get it, well she's only in it (so she thinks) to be proud of herself, for the first time in her 'adult' life.  None of them are adults, without natural affection  It's such a crock with BO & MO. Of course it took Obama $650 M to get elected,  hang the cost,  it wasn't his nickel.  America will still have the slums,  drove through there today, knowing BO won't help those poor creatures any, just like he didn't in Chicago.  Those bums will be worse off because of their cult leader, still blaming others for their lack.  Never knowing what hit them. 
    MO is frumpy, ugly as homemade sin, and could care less about our country.
    She is the bitter half and will come to a bitter end, because bitter begets bitter.

    IF and that's a BIG IF, the economy got back to where it was before this fraud took place on our country, Obama can't take credit for it.  Obama & pals were the ones who broke it.
     One important message Washington needs to get fast.
    Somebody will cut that twerp Eric Holder's tongue out if he keeps harping on stopping free speech.  People are getting sick of little nothing punks like him.  He isn't big enough to tell Americans to hush.  He'll find that out the hard way.  They ALL will.
    Look around, stupid thugs,  there will be no one to blame but yourselves.   Pretty funny, HUH!  Vicious Circle,  Form of Insanity.
  • simon1
    .. on the other hand, she could just be his wife - who he loves very much.
  • jennyjen
    I think Michelle plays the role of the reliabitch. The bitch the pimp respects the most and she is not frightened by the pimp hand but will not cross it. She's not the best looking bitch in the stable and she will never disrespect the pimp, for that is a sin punishable by bitch slap and there is nothing a pimp hates worse than slappin up his reliabitch. 
    What do you think Carolyn?
  • YOU nailed Obama dead center.  Thank you.  I do appreciate your way with words, Tonto.  Nothing more needs to be added, this is The Big Picture, of 
    Obamanation.
  • Tonto
    A shrink would probably call him a narcissist with delusions of grandeur.  This helps to fuel his arrogance and charisma.  There is no doubt in Obama's mind that he is almost god-like in his "coolness" and infallibility.  He'd make a great pimp if he could shoot and handle a shank.  You've got to admit, he wears his $2000. "vine" and alligator "kicks" really well.  Michelle, on the other hand, looks kinda "frumpy".  I think he's really a pretty empty individual, and somebody is running him like a puppet.  He's been tutored pretty well, but I really don't think he's got what it takes to be Prez for real.  When he does "speeches", you'll notice he's smooth as silk.  When he ad libs, he sorta stutters thru the answers he's been taught....like a bad recital.  I don't think he's got the mental depth to understand what he needs to be prez.
  • Tonto: If I had been his grand parents I would have kicked him to the curb or not given a shit about him either.  I wouldn't have wanted the little bastard.  His mother was a real slut.  This Obama makes the gitmo prisoners look like fairy's in leotards.  Now it is easy to see why the libs want to stop Talk Radio, and how Obama is so paranoid over every thing.  Hannity has gotten under Obama's thin skin, and that haunts him day and night.  Just one question Tonto, if you did a criminal profile on Obama, what would you say about him, and what label would you place on this mentally deranged person.  I know it's a hell of a lot more than just a borderline personality disorder.  "Legion, comes to mind for me,  for WE are many, and WE are 'the one' you have been waiting for."  That was a dead ringer.  Just put it so typical folk can understand, if possible.
    Thanks, I am sure I will sleep well tonight.  LOL
  • Well you summed it up, now lets print this in all the News Papers across America, telling how Obama and pals nigged the race.  LOL  If you had any doubt after this, you are brain dead.
  • Tonto
    simon1, the Clintons were associated with as many as 64 suspicious deaths, dating back to Bill Clinton's governorship of Arkansas(that's pronounced ar-can-saw).  He may have been party to a drug ring there.  Bill and Hillary go back to the hippie college days.  Both gifted , spoiled rich kids, liberals and activists.  Bill fled to England to avoid the Vietnam war draft.  Bill is a well know cocks-man, chases skirts all the time, but that seems to be pretty normal for democrats, as LBJ and JFK had a competition over it and kept score.
    Obambi has been "groomed" for democrat glory for a long time, as were Kerry, Gore, and the Kennedys.  One of his "busy" jobs was to organize neighborhood action groups and he taught "tactics" of harassment and intimidation to groups which became associated with ACORN (That is an acronym which I never bothered to translate).  ACORN is very leftist and used leftist tactics to push for registering voters, mostly poor blacks, from slum neighborhoods.  They are noted for persuading voters to register as many as 30 times.  They've been known to even help the dead to register to vote, and one even got Mickey Mouse to register.  Nothing suspicious there huh?  The Obamasiah has some pretty shady associations going back to early childhood, and may not even be a "naturally born" citizen, as is required by law.  He MAY have been born in Kenya, which is a far piece from here.  His mama was a hippie, pot smoking slut that screwed anything that had the equipment and got "knocked up" with him.  His daddy was a activist commie from Africa who screwed anything that he could hold still long enough, and abandoned his family at the first opportunity.  He lived in Indonesia for a while and went to a madrasa there.  He was able to go to the school because his step daddy adopted him.  When mommy got sick and died, again kicked to the curb by "daddy", he was raised by his maternal grandma....and grandma and grandpa really didn't much give a shit about him.  Somehow (?????) he got the money to go to prestigious colleges.  His roommates were M/E denizens connected to power brokers there.  After (and during)college it gets real murky because the left seems to want to keep info about Obambi secret.  His wife, Michelle, had written several very racist, anti white, papers in college, which are also being kept hidden now.  He was involved with several shady characters, including Bill Ayers, who was a member of the "weather underground" (kind of a wimpy Bader-Meinhoff gang) that did several bombings in the 70s...but Ayers and Bernadette Dorn were were not convicted of anything.  The "house nigger" thing is way too difficult to explain to a foreigner....too much background.  The distinction between different types of black people is apparent to those that know, but indecipherable to outsiders.  A lot of these things that I have explained are readily available on-line, and all you have to do is google most of these things.  Start googling names and read the articles.  I won't do any more explaining and when you talk like an idjit cause you didn't bother to look up something, don't be surprised when somebody here smokes yer ass.  People get tired of tolerating dumbasses.
  • ender
  • Chris
    Simon I think that they think the story is funny because of who said it.
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  • Chris
    Liberals complained that Bush was a bully, Obama is going to be much worse.
  • Jeff:  YOU got that right!   Obama and pals are bullies, and are  the pot calling the kettle black 24-7.  They can stick it too, no guilt here.  I'm white, a woman, and a minority,  so what!   It's water off a ducks back,  they better get their ducks in a roe, straighten up and fly right, not left.  LOL
  • If Don Imus would have said "House Negro" the world would be upside down. A Muslim terrorists bum says it and what do a I hear from Sharpton and Jackson ?

    ***Crickets chirping***
  • Give it up, bro and sista, race has nothing what so ever with any of this, smoke screen only, to hide the devil, well 'give the devil his due.'  I'm a minority, a woman in a man's world, and named called all the time.  Just like with OJ Simpson,  race had nothing to do with the fact that he murdered his wife.
    Same with this fraud bought election, race has nothing to do with it, greed has everything to do with it,  guilty as charged.  Ask yourself one question?
    Who were the ones that voted for Obama, mainly?  I rest my case!
    THINK!    I think it's still legal in the USA!
    Now I got news for all you bro's and sista's out there.  The merciless have no mercy on anyone, it's all about them, so you got had too.  So live with it, and maybe you will pay attention next time.  You reckon?
  • jennyjen
    It's "community organizers", I think they've been linked to voter fraud in some states. Encouraging people to vote isn't a bad thing, telling people who they should vote for without giving the voter info on both candidates platforms- that's the problem.
  • simon1
    ... I keep seeing it mentioned, but had no idea what it was
  • simon1
    so acorn are a company that worked for the democrats, to encourage/bribe people to vote?...
  • jennyjen
    I do not mean to imply that homeless people are bumbling idiots- just liberal college students.  :P
  • jennyjen
    Simon1: ACORN is a group of nuts that bribe people with packs of cigs to register to vote. They go to prisons, find the homeless and bumbling idiots of America and get votes for the person they think should be elected. I'm pretty sure what they truly do is illegal as hell but they hide behind loopholes and a mission statement.
    I'm sure Chris or Kal can give a better description, that's just how I perceive the group.
  • jennyjen
    So I checked out Malkin's page and Obama's response just totally pissed me off. "He lacks empathy" the ONE says. That's not the response I expect from the leader of the free world (no matter how baby-fresh). When the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor did our President say, "they lack empathy" why hell no! He gave them an ultimatum and they choose poorly and we blew them all to HELL!
    Attention all terrorists: President-Elect Obama has no spine, no balls and no pride. Attack at will....
  • simon1
    ... in a nutshell (no pun intended) what is this "Acorn" business that everyone keeps mentioning?
  • Lefties suddenly care about the war on Terror?  HUH??

    jennyjen
    , yes I could have told you without ever reading this, you would laugh at that.  Let's spread the guilt around, not that I had any, and yes it is funny.  What?  Ex-c-u-s-e  me,  does 'the one' think he's above all comment?   Sounds like it, heck the devils kids called Jesus Christ a lot of names too. Now the devils kids, are calling their own kinfolk names, can you imagine that?  LOL  (However Jesus was and is 'The Only One' that didn't deserve what was said about him.) The rest of the dangerous bunch in Washington and around the world, put them all in a sack, they would come out together, hair lisped and stupid as when they went in.   I say, if you are going to dish it out like the 'leotards' then you are going to have to take it. Tough titty!
    Hear Ye Hear Ye, Here is THE BIG PICTURE:
    Clinton was the 'house negro.'  Now we got his bro and sista in DC with nothing but pimps, madame's and eunuch's running the damn house of ill 're-puke.'   Most stupid, confused SO B's on the planet  IMO.  You know what the word says, "where confusion is there is every evil work."  There you have it in an ACORN Nutshell and it was rotten, it was rotten just now! 

    I think it's funny, plus they are a dead give-a-way.  These guys/gals/??? are such fraidy fat cats that are scared of their own shadow.  Fraidy Cats that can't trust the other one out of their reach and sight for a second. Full blown paranoia, that screwed up royally the country to win a fraud bought election.  Now they have they have to be 'the one' to fix it.  The blind leading the blind.  No seeing eye dog can help this ditched group!
    Does that speak volumes?  Do they have something to hide?
    Why are they so scared of Hannity, and Rush?  These people on talk radio are not that many, when it comes to them?  You heard it said:  Thou doth protest too much.  Their story is so thin, and so it their skin.  HA HA HA HA HA HA!

    What's Next?  Orgy on Washington Hill and as the devil would have it, a golden calf thrown in, all dancing naked and worshiping 'the one' sitting on the 'alter.'
    Note: alter is not a Throne,  get it!  'Yea, lighten up and TraveLight!'
  • simon1
    ... I know you don't like Obama because he is a socialist... his colour has nothing to do with it... I  know that :) 


    mind you from a European perspective, he is mildly socialist imo rather than radically socialist.... Europeans are much more socialist than Americans... 


    The thing is I completely agree we must fight Islamisation, on every level... that is why I am on this site


    but as a secular person, my beef is with the religio-fascist nature of Islam.. it's intolerance, its subjegation of women, gays, and non moslems. In moslem countries non moslems are second class citizens. I don't want to become a second class citizen in my own country. So far the only way i can see of avoiding that is to stop immigration of moslems into my country. I can't see what else we can do
  • Liz
    I find the long winded speech mostly complete drivel. The use of the term "house negro" shows his idiocy.  The only thing I agree with is this part...

    " you are neither facing individuals nor organizations, but are facing a Jihadi awakening and renaissance which is shaking the pillars of the entire Islamic world; and this is the fact which you and your government and country refuse to recognize and pretend not to see."

    As long as we insist on seeing this as a secular fight we will lose. We need to see it for what it is, a religious "holy" war. And it has better become that for us as well.

    We don't like Obama' Not because he's black but because he is a radical socialist. We are a still a free people, but are watching our freedoms threatened. If you saw the interviews with the Obama voterrs coming out of the polls...they were ignorant of everything about our government. They voted like ignorant people do...by looks and propaganda. That's what is a frightening thing, that ignorant uneducated people are now in a majority who get their only education from the US version of the soviet news service Pravda....or to translate..."truth"'. Spoon feed them propaganda and tell them that the nanny state will take care of them and they will vote for you. Frightening. A bunch of cattle headed for the slaughterhouse.
  • jennyjen
    Well I think it's funny as HELL! The past is the past- get over it but don't forget it. I doubt the US is going to slip into slavery anytime soon so the term "house negro" is just ridiculously funny to me.
    Also, the person who used the term makes it additionally funny. The #2 guy for the leading terrorist organization in the world. Like he's got any room to make fun of anyone! He's bin Laden's puppet for pete's sake, if he was worth a shit he'd be #1!
    Basically, Lighten the fuck up dude- if you take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive!
  • simon1
    personally I happy to discuss any topic, but some people seem to take exception to having their points of view examined, which seems a bit sad
  • simon1
    Admin, I have simply made the point i do not find the term house negro  a cause for hilarity, and have subsiquently been continually attacked by another member, if you could read the above thread your help would be most appreciated. many thanks
    simon 1
  • Joan
    Admin,
    Do you think you can do something about this situation please ?

    Joan
  • simon1
    .. but you must also keep me out of your responses... ok?.... oops sorry you musn't answer that :)
  • simon1
    likewise!
  • Joan
    I have not come on this site simon1 to argue any cause with you, in order to either change your mind, or to have  mine changed. I come on here to express my views and maybe exchange comments with like minded people. With this in mind i feel it would be best if i did not exchange comments with you anymore.
    If i wanted to argue with Liberals there is a good amount of sites i could choose from.
    I ask you to keep this in mind and in future leave me out of your responses.
    Best wishes on your liberal crusade.
    Joan
  • Joan
    The reason my views and people like me are in a minority, is they are not allowed to be heard. That does not mean they do not exist or are in the minority, what it means is the liberal left use the courts and laws to stop me speaking, that is why i am on American sites.
    You however have a choice you can go on any site you wish.
    To stifle someone's views will not make them go away, all it doe's is drive those views underground. They are not wiped out.
  • simon1
    joan said:
    "The Liberal left here in the UK have no idea of the ordinary people’s mindset "



    ... the liberal left are ordinary people... and in the majority. 
    The views you express here  are minority views
  • Joan
    Lefties, in general here are plastered most of the time.
  • Joan
    Ender,
    You forgot the black family at the dinner table, who try to raise a laugh or two, by exploiting their own situations.
  • Joan
    Robert,
    The Liberal left will never support anything, they work against the values the majority want, in order for their own agenda to be pushed.
    They are a section of people who are like rotten apples in a barrel. The liberals are the true enemy within.
  • Joan
    Tonto,
    The Liberal left here in the UK have no idea of the ordinary people's mindset here at home on their own doorstep, let alone across the Atlantic.
    They have their own agenda to push, and that is communism.
    The liberal left use diversion tactics, to divert the attention off what is actually going on in the west in general.
    Meanwhile the Islamification of Europe rolls on.
  • simon1
    No I don't!... it is very different to the European mindset. That is why I find this forum so fascinating. Everything I say here seems seems to cause a massive argument. Even when I say I don't find racial slurs funny, I find myself in the middle of a shit storm. It really is amazing.


    But in fairness I do not believe this forum does represent the American mindset in it's totality.


    For example everyone (except me) seems to hate president elect Obama on this forum. However, more that 50% of Americans do seem to like him... because they voted for him. So that means this forum represents less that half of the American point of view. So it is fair to say this forum represents the minority view of Some Americans. (shit storm coming up no doubt). There are many Americans.. possibly the majority, who would share many of my points of view... they are just not on this particular forum.


    As for the Taliban... I agree they are absolute nut jobs... You will not find me supporting them at all. But they are proving to be harder to defeat than originally thought. No one in history has ever defeated the Afghanis, the Russians tried... but at that time the taliban were the allies of America and Britain. We gave them all their weapons, and trained them for years... to defeat the the "commies". Now we are being shot at by the weapons we gave them, and the tactics we taught them. There must be a lesson there somewhere. 


    A couple of high ranking military officers have recently been saying, the war is unwinable. The Afghan government have now started offering to talk to the Taliban (with conditions)... Eventually I  believe they will talk and come to some accomodation, as I think the Taliban are not going to be defeated. 


    ..... I think the taliban are horrific fundamentalist, but I also think this war is ultimately pointless.
  • Tonto
    simon1, you have no understanding of the Ameerican mindset at all do you?
  • Tonto
    This zawahiri cave crawling, peepin' out from the bushes, talks a great fight but never fires a shot, COWARD sure talks (the way we say it where I come from) a lot of shit.  The quote he was trying to translate from Malcolm X used the words "house nigger", not "house negro" or "slave of the house".  It's a term used by blacks to insult people who are less black in skin tone than they are ( at least in Detroit, that's the way it was used).  It's like a yuppie calling a country person a "redneck" or vice verse.  Anyway, the term was seldom, if ever, used by whites.   Mike Yon probably, and a whole bunch of other guys, wouldn't agree with his assessment of the Iraq situation.  Maybe zawahiri could tell us why al qaida has basically un-assed most of Iraq, and why fewer and fewer foreign fighters are showing up there to get their asses shot off and be martyred.  A few weeks ago, I talked to a green beret who had completed several missions in Afghanistan, and he enlightened me on a few things about the place.  He said almost any FNG right out of basic could kick ass in Afghanistan, cause the idiots can't shoot.  He said they have their own "take" on a surge.  When the weather allows, they fight.  When they have to plant their crops or deal with religious holidays, they don't fight.  Taliban is hiding out in Pakistan and coming to raid and hauling ass back over the border to hide, like the punk bitches they are.  He said the taliban wouldn't make a decent pimple on a viet cong's butt.  In conclusion, this zawahiri dipzoid is just talking smack and lying his ass off.  He really is an inconsequential puke, as these idiots go.  Lots more smoke than fire.
        The somali pirates haven't figured out yet that their days are numbered.  And the Ethiopians scare the crap out of the somali warlords.  The pirates are not yet aware of the several plans for their eradication that are being discussed as I type.  India (her navy) has already handled several little problematic pirate concerns......there is much more to come.
  • Robert B.
    Maybe now we can count on the lefties to support the war on terror.


    NAH!!!
  • ender
    racism is very funny.  if it wasn't funny, richard pryor, eddie murphy, dave chapelle, and any other black comedian wouldn't have made the money they are making.  hell, some of them never would have had a carreer without exploiting their own race and its stereotypes.
  • simon1
    ;)


    nighty night!
  • simon1
    When i disagreed with jennyjens finding the racial slur, derived from the days of slavery hilarious, 
    you imediately disagreed with me, by saying
    Oh here we go again, the British past, the slave trade, the crusades, the priests who abuse, the Americans and the Red Indians, The British in India, let’s flog it all up then. Simon sez we are right Bastards. '

     And if my dissaproval of slavery results in you assuming i am calling everyone on this forum a bastard. that can only be racial argument based on guilt by race... that is the only way i could be classed as calling everyone (or every white person actually) a bastard.
    so presumably you think I am a racist?
  • simon1
    But joan you are not your parents or grandparents are you?... you bear no responsibility for what they did or did not do
  • simon1
    I never called you right bastards... you said that not me. i simply said i did not find racial insults hilarious... what's the problem with that?
  • simon1
    ... shit sorry! i miss typed i meant to say "I am Not saying you are right bastards"
  • Joan
    My parents, grandparents and great grandparents were in British India before the handover in 1947 to India. They were part of the British Imperial Empire.
  • Joan
    simon 8 posts above you have said


    No i am just saying you are right bastards, i am saying i don't  find racism hilarious like you and Jennyjen do.

    correct me if i have gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick, but did you just call Jennyjen and i racists ?
  • simon1
    You are not responsible for what happened in the past... neither am I.


    you then said "Oh here we go again, the British past, the slave trade, the crusades, the priests who abuse, the Americans and the Red Indians, The British in India, let’s flog it all up then. Simon sez we are right Bastards."


    are you responsible for any of the above? is anyone on this forum responsible for any of the above....NO


    unless you think You are guilty because you are white  or british. In which case you are expounding a theory of guilt by race... i.e. a racist theory... one that seems ridiculous to me
  • simon1
    I did not conclude you were racist... I never said you were racist. I am not playing race card or any other card. I am simply saying i do not find racial slurs hillarious.


    you then said i thought you were right bastards... I really have no idea how you reached this conclusion.
  • Joan
    Because you come across as having the same line of arguement liberals use, racist by birth past, racist by slave trade past.
    You yourself concluded i was racist, no matter what is said about Obama it would appear to be racist.If i said McCain had bells on his toes, it would be funny, if i said Obama did i would be racist, its called pulling the race card.
  • simon1
    I didn't say you were a racist.. where did I say that?
  • simon1
    and when you say "simon thinks we are all right bastards".... how do you arrive at that conclusion?
  • Joan
    well then, where do you conclude i am racist from then pray tell ?
  • simon1
    well i can know what jennyjen finds hilarious, because she said in her post


     " I find it absolutely hilarious that Obama has been referred to as the “house negro”


    that would suggest she finds a racial slur derived from the darkest days of racism funny...
  • Joan
    simon,
    you cannot possibly know what Jennyjen and i find hilarious or funny. I have never said i was a racist.That is the usual way of shutting someone up, saying they are a racist. It always does the trick.
     
    Debate over, as it were.
  • simon1
    .. and I mention the worst excesses of the past because that is exactly where the term "house negro" originated.
  • simon1
    ... no I am just saying you are right bastards, I am just saying I don't find racism hilarious like you and jennyjen do.
  • Joan
    Oh here we go again, the British past, the slave trade, the crusades, the priests who abuse, the Americans and the Red Indians, The British in India, let's flog it all up then. Simon sez we are right Bastards.
  • simon1
    ... or european past for that matter
  • simon1
    ...strange, but I don't find calling someone a house negro hilarious at all.... reminds me of the worst excesses of the american past.
  • jennyjen
    I'm sorry but I find it absolutely hilarious that Obama has been referred to as the "house negro". Even if it is by a crazy jackass. Al-Zawahiri may have just screwed the pooch, the left may not feel sorry for terrorists now that they have let their racism hang out.  A racist terrorist, the left's gonna need a big bottle of Asprin for this one haha!
  • simon1
    ... well calling a black person a house slave is pretty insulting... but what do you expect from a madman like that.
  • Kal_El
    Apparently, since it is insulting to The One, B Hussein Obama, Renewer of The World, Giver of Hope and Change, the leftists now care. Had he simply called Bush Hitler, no one would have noticed.
  • simon1
    ... who cares what that lunatic terrorist says?
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