Gaza physician claims Hamas inflated numbers of casualties in recent bombardment by Israel

by Kal El on January 23, 2009 · View Comments

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What, a muslim jihad group can’t cook the books a little, spread some taqqiya to advance the cult? I am not at all surprised to find this out. I hear from Hizbullah sympathizers in Lebanon that the death toll from the Hizbullah provocation of Israel in 2006 was nearly double what the UN said it was. So why wouldn’t Hamas spin their recent asswhooping into some useful propaganda? Hell, Hizbullah recently congratulated them on their “victory” over Israel.

Gazan doctor says death toll inflated

Physician at Gaza’s Shifa Hospital tells Italian newspaper number of dead in Israeli offensive ‘stands at no more than 500 or 600, most of them youths recruited to Hamas’ ranks’. Senior Palestinian Health Ministry official denies claims, IDF estimate on 1,200 casualties in Strip remains unchanged

What really is behind the numbers reported on the number of civilian casualties in the Gaza Strip? Italian newspaper Corriere Della Sera reported Thursday that a doctor working in Gaza’s Shifa Hospital claimed that Hamas has intentionally inflated the number of casualties resulting from Israel’s Operation Cast Lead.”The number of deceased stands at no more than 500 to 600. Most of them are youths between the ages of 17 to 23 who were recruited to the ranks of Hamas, who sent them to the slaughter,” according to the newspaper article.

The doctor wished to remain unidentified, out of fear for his life.

A senior Palestinian Health Ministry official later denied the claims, and the Israel Defense Forces’ estimate on the number of casualties in Gaza has also remained unchanged.

Despite the claims, the IDF stood behind its estimate that between 1,100 to 1,200 people were killed in the Strip during the fighting, more than two-thirds of them Hamas members.

The army initially believed that the number of civilian casualties was higher, as many Hamas men walked outside their houses dressed in civilian clothes, leaving their weapons at home.

Dr. Moaiya Hassanain, who is in change of the emergency department at the Palestinian Health Ministry in Gaza, denied the figures presented by the Italian paper.

Hassanain told Ynet that the Palestinian figures were issued cautiously, without any political considerations, and that several casualties may not have been reported as their bodies are still under the rubble or have not been handed over to the rescue forces and authorized medical officials.

‘Mostly armed teenagers’

A Tal al-Hawa resident told the newspaper’s reporter, “Armed Hamas men sought out a good position for provoking the Israelis. There were mostly teenagers, aged 16 or 17, and armed. They couldn’t do a thing against a tank or a jet. They knew they are much weaker, but they fired at our houses so that they could blame Israel for war crimes.”

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/mosquewatch mosquewatch

    "Gazan doctor says death toll inflated"

    That's a shame. I wish the number would be higher. I have no sympathy for my enemy. Can one imagine such reports during ww2 about the nazis? Good grief this is war. A high body count in war is a sign that you are WINNING THE WAR. I desire the death of my enemy. I don't care about their casualties.

    I care about our Soldiers, not their terrorists. For those parents with children that live next door to a known terrorist, think about moving or else.

  • Mo_Jamal

    Do you know what the real shame? the extent of brainwashing you were admistered.

    "I desire the death of my enemy I don't care about their casualties."

    Also, your less than subtle hint at the end is suggestive, just one question, how does that make you different from the monsters your trying to fight?

    P.S vague answers and misguided attacks expected.

    '

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/ChristopherL ChristopherL

    Mo is too misguided to see that we do not care if we have his approval or not.

  • Mo_Jamal

    "Mo is too misguided to see that we do not care if we have his approval or not."

    wow…when I said "vague answers and misguided attacks are expected",aside from the grammatical i didnt mean it literally!

    Whats more amazing is that you agree with him!?

    Semi-Serious question: Is this some cultish anti-muslim blog? anti-humane would be more approppriate but leaving aside technicalities is the question/statement true?

    Personally love the approval part, how amusing, that I would care whether you care for my approval?! Incidentially how small is the corner you are cowering in?

    If thats all you have to contribute to any rational discussion, please refrain from discussing matters of reason with me; its unseemly.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/ChristopherL ChristopherL

    Like I said your goal here is to whitewash Islam,, if I was cowering I would not be using my real name.

    What is amazing is that you think that you are going to get people to change their mind about Islam.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/ChristopherL ChristopherL

    Like I said your goal here is to whitewash Islam,, if I was cowering I would not be using my real name.

    What is amazing is that you think that you are going to get people to change their mind about Islam. I do agree with him, when in war you fight to win.

  • Mo_Jamal

    I might be whitewashing Islam or fighting against zionism or maybe just maybe I might be fighting for man.

    By the way, dont you know how to associate metaphors by 'cowering' and 'corner' I did not mean in real life but in the context.Dont worry, no terrorist (or intellectual) would ever give a damn about you (or what you think), your much too mediocre.

    "I do agree with him, when in war you fight to win."

    Horrendous logic,deduction and then look at the damn consequences ….think about it. If anything is justified in war then hitler,hamas or anyone is justified because as you said it, "when in war you fight to win."

    interesting if you do not feel compelled to 'debate' then, logically refrain from doing so.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/ChristopherL ChristopherL

    Go see my comment in the other, thread. Conversation over liar, you lose.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/ChristopherL ChristopherL

    Go see my comment in the other, thread. Conversation over liar.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Kal_El Kal_El

    Mo_Jamal,

    As for matters of reason, how about opening your eyes and seeing that Israel did not start the fighting with Hamas. Hamas has launched well over 2500 rockets in the last twelve months alone, all aimed randomly, not giving a damn if they hit civilians. Israel went so far as to call and sms the Palestinians (the same assholes who ELECTED Hamas) that they were coming and to get out. As for fighting for man, if my neighbor chooses to side with evil (and the Palestinians did, when they ELECTED Hamas), then they get whatever is coming to them when good comes in to vanquish evil. While I lament the deaths of each child, their blood is on the hands of the terrorists Hamas, who hid among them and fired rockets from schools, mosques and playgrounds.

    Serious answer: This blog is not cultish, or anti-muslim. I have muslim friends who are fully aware of what I do here, and support me, but they cannot speak out, since their muslim families would disown, or even kill them for speaking up. I have dated muslim women, and they knew full well my stance on islam, jihad, and the caliphate. This blog is about exposing the truth, that islam is at its core, a violent socio-political system built for controlling the masses. Look at the illiteracy rates in any muslim country and you will see.

    You are one to talk about grammatical errors! "your much too mediocre." It's YOU'RE, a contraction of YOU ARE, as in YOU'RE/YOU ARE a nincompoop.

  • Beej

    Mo_Jamal, When you say "anti-humane", do you mean "anti-human"? Actually, when you consider the fact that the site is called "Infidels Are Cool", it's evident it exists in defence of "infidel values" rather than primarily to be anti-Muslim, although it is bound to serve as a platform for anti-Muslim sentiments given the fact that you arseholes call us infidels. Understand? That's a sesqui-serious response to your semi-serious question.
    We infidels do not cower: we leave that to bin Laden and his troglodytes.
    Is that seemly enough for you?

  • Beej

    Gosh, your syntax is mesmerising, Mo_Jamal. I'd have some bacon and eggs for breakfast if I had some bacon, but I don't have any eggs.

  • Beej

    Well said, Mosquewatch. The great Patton would be proud of you.
    As a point of interest, IS IT WAR? Aren't there internationally accepted rules for the conduct of warfare? I'm not sure of my ground here. Still, the Israelis once again kicked their butts, and that's the only thing that matters.

  • Beej

    BRAINWASHING???? A MUSLIM accusing someone of having been brainwashed????? Tell me truthfully, Mo_Jamal, when did you become Muslim? Your decision was based upon carefully considered reason when you were old enough and experienced enough to apply such reason? I suggest you listen carefully to the song "Every Sperm Is Sacred".

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Kal_El Kal_El

    Beej,

    There most certainly ARE rules of war internationally accepted. Accepted by everyone except muslims, as you no doubt have seen on tv the news that a reporter/contractor was kidnapped and beheaded, or that Hamas booby-trapped a house in Gaza filled with civilians (children included), and the killing of 4 contractors in Iraq, whose bodies were burned, then dragged through the street. But the international media cries like a bunch of pussies when our boys make jihadis play naked twister, and take pictures laughing at their lack of "endowment".

  • Beej

    Thank you, Kal_El. Now don't be naughty! Let's not ever stoop to the level of these inhuman scumbags. Never give them fuel to ensnare the affections of weak-minded fools so ready to accommodate them. We must be squeaky-clean, no matter what the provocation. Blow the fuckers to smithereens, yes, but never treat them as they would us when in captivity.

  • Falan Filancan

    …it is because ends don't justify means. What Hamas does is evil and dishonorable, true, BUT responding wickedness with cruelty and abuse of power is also evil.

  • Falan Filancan

    Okay, the issue at hand is; CIVILIANS ARE DYING OVER THERE!! Not terorists, not people who stood up with violance, the children, women, old people… That's what is going on over there, and that's why people who actually have a little symphaty in their heart try to raise voices

  • Beej

    Yup, Falan. That's precisely why Israeli troops entered Gaza recently. Were you so concerned and vocal when Hamas was firing rockets into Israel, or when Muslims carried out their murder in Mumbai?

  • Beej

    Yes, Falan, let's allow the jihadists to trample us. Happy?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/mosquewatch mosquewatch

    Hi Mo, I want too be as brutal and as ruthless as those bastards are and teach the sons of bitches a lesson. I wish one day we can invent a time machine , go back in time and put a bullet in hitlers head when he was a child. If my enemies want war, give it too them 100 percent. I don't give a rats arse about surgical strikes. I say do like the UK did in WW2 against the nazi Germany, firebomb the whole damned place into ashes. It sends a clear message. I don't give a damn about my enemy or those that get in the way. As far as I'm concerned the Israelis should grease the gears of their weapons with the enemies blood. I hope I have clarified things up a bit better. Have a nice day.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/mosquewatch mosquewatch

    Falan , hamas are civilian terrorists. hamas is not a legal military entity. The palestinians voted for hamas, they are not innocent either. The only time Muslims complain about "Innocent people" is when they are getting their ass handed too them in a hat. I don't hear about "innocent civilians" when some mindless jihadist bastards blows himself up. Face it, you guys screwed the kitty. Enjoy the outcome. Why is it that "moderate Muslims" live so close to the "mujahadin"? Lay down with dogs, you get fleas.

    Or moabs……

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JEWHAWK JEWHAWK

    WHO can be considered a "CIVILLIAN"?

    Not only those holding a AK-47 are to be considered terrorists.

    LOGISTICS:

    A combatant needs SHELTER,FOOD,WATER,AMMO and MONEY
    who,in the GAZA case,were being supplied by people who are
    being labeled as "civillians" by the western media.

    In Gaza,those who didn't participate with guns,did by providing
    the MEANS to the Hamas's thugs.

    Were they "INNOCENT"?

    No,they weren't.

    If infants died,it's because HAMAS's recklessness.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/JEWHAWK JEWHAWK

    WHO can be considered a "CIVILLIAN"?

    Not only those holding a AK-47 are to be considered terrorists.

    LOGISTICS:

    A combatant needs SHELTER,FOOD,WATER,AMMO and MONEY
    who,in the GAZA case,were being supplied by people who are
    being labeled as "civillians" by the western media.

    In Gaza,those who didn't fought with guns,did so by providing
    the MEANS to the Hamas's thugs.

    Were they "INNOCENT"?

    No,they weren't.

    If infants died,it's because HAMAS's recklessness.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/JEWHAWK JEWHAWK

    WHO can be considered a "CIVILIAN"?

    Not only those holding an AK-47 ought to be considered terrorists.

    LOGISTICS:

    A combatant needs SHELTER,FOOD,WATER,AMMO and MONEY
    who,in the GAZA case,were being supplied by people who are
    being labeled as "civillians" by the western media.

    In Gaza,those who didn't fought with guns,did so by providing
    the MEANS to the Hamas's thugs.

    Were they "INNOCENT"?

    No,they weren't.

    If infants died,it's because HAMAS's recklessness.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/JEWHAWK JEWHAWK

    WHO can be considered a "CIVILIAN"?

    Not only those holding an AK-47 ought to be considered terrorists.

    LOGISTICS:

    A combatant needs SHELTER,FOOD,WATER,AMMO and MONEY
    who,in the GAZA's case,was being supplied by people who are
    being labeled as "civilians" by the western media.

    In Gaza,those who didn't fought with guns,did so by providing
    the MEANS to the Hamas's thugs.

    Were they "INNOCENT"?

    No,they weren't.

    If infants died,it's because HAMAS's recklessness.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JEWHAWK JEWHAWK

    Mr.FILANCAN…
    I disagree with you.Hamas said that it would 'TEACH ISRAEL A LESSON",
    so nothing more sound that giving them back their kindness,love and
    flowers that SDEROT,BEER SHEVA and ASHKELON received from the
    Gaza strip,isn't that COOL???

    I can say that Israel probably used about 1% of its military power.This
    must be considered a very proportional use of force.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JEWHAWK JEWHAWK

    Dear Mosquewatch,this was the best,most trustworthy post I've ever read on
    the internet since I first used it in 1996.Many thinks like you,but dare not to
    utter or write the words,but you just DID.

    Appease those bloodthirsty muslims won't bring peace,but our death.

    Please,comment about the grisly videos in which Daniel Pearl and others
    were being beheaded by their muslim captors and how their screams still
    haunts all of us.

    That's the true face of Islam as themselves presented.

    P.S.:From now on,I'll regard you as another Geert Wilders.
    Congratulations!

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