Op-Ed: Who are the real Nazis?

The Charter of Hamas specifically states that there can be no peace until Israel becomes Islamic. See:

http://alwaysonwatch2.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-…

The Islam-Hitler connection is largely unknown to those outside the blogosphere. We can thank the leftist media and academia for that obfuscation.

can you enlighten me on the Islam Hitler connection. As hitler believed in the supremacy of the blonde haired blue eyed Aryan, he hated arabs and jews. The reason the connection between Hitler and Arabs is unknown because it never existed. If i am wrong on this I would love you to give me some evidence on this.

the only people i know that worship hitler these days are the kkk an the aryan brotherhood… white supremacists in America

It is well known that Hitler wanted the Jews to cease existing, no references needed there.
It is also well known Palestine in particular wants Jews to cease to exist. I only choose Palestine as the list of Muslim nations would run out my allowance i can post.
Iran's president put the situation rather clearer.
The connection was clearly the aim to rid the world, in particular Europe of the Jews.
Evidence can sometimes never be produced, why not try asking for death certificates from concentration camp victim's families, or else the victim's money will never be paid back.

oh I see… it is just Always on Watch wrote

"The Islam-Hitler connection is largely unknown to those outside the blogosphere. We can thank the leftist media and academia for that obfuscation."

all he is really saying is Hitler hated jews, and so do a lot of moslems…. that is what he means by a "connection"

oh ok so that's it… there was no actual "connection" in any real sense at all, probably tha's why it is largely unknown.

Hitler for example exterminated 6 million jews. Transported them across Europe to death camps in Poland. Gassed them with zyclon B, and exhaust fumes from vans. Incinerated the bodies in massive purpose built ovens. Had his medical officers perform horrific medical experiments on them while they were still alive. Starved them in ghettos surrounded with gun towers and barbed wire. Made them wear Yellow stars.

And moslems?….Well they have done absolutely none of the above to the jews….. So i really don't see much of a connection…

Some moslems may not like jews but that hardly gives them a connection to Hitler…. Isralel never exsisted in Hitlers time.

And as i said in another post, if the allies had created the jewish state out of Texas. for example instead of Palastine, and expelled all the Texans from their homes…. Armed the jews to the teeth and given the texans stones to throw…. then it would have been a whole different story…. it would be the Texans shouting death to israel and firing rockets

gaz,
Moslems have indeed committed mass murder against Jews, starting with the hands-on experience of their Prophet. Mohammed helped behead 600 to 900 Jewish males of the Qurayzah tribe, dropping their bodies into trenches. Women and children were enslaved. They would pull down a young guy's pants to see if he had pubic hair. If not, then he became a slave. If so, then he was beheaded.
Look up the Mufti of Jerusalem. He was a Jew-hating Arab bigwig at the time of WW2, a friend of the Nazis, and a relative of Arafat's. Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' still sells well in the Palestinian Authority.
Western leftists who help jihadists conceal their Nazi ties and affinities are known as dhimmis.

Do Muslims wish Jews well then ? Long life and happiness ? or do they dent their right to exist ?
Your logic is that of a silly communist.

Are you a Palestinian terror supporter ?
Palestinians are calling for the death of Israel in the form of Jihad , so i am just asking out of interest as to the rocket firing, do you agree with that as you give the idea you do with the Texas example you give, are you trying to justify terror ?

Hitler and the Grand Mufti Amin Al-Husseini

http://infidelsarecool.com/2007/10/16/hitler-and-…

Muslims also helped Hitler. The Mufti of Jerusalem.

In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary. He escaped from French detention in 1946, however, and continued his fight against the Jews from Cairo and later Beirut. He died in 1974.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Histo…

Thank you, John. I was just about tobring this up.

the central tennant of communism is state ownership of the means of production.. I have made not mention of that, so where you get that idea from I have no idea

I don't support terror of any sort, who so ever perpetrates it.

Arguments always have two sides, and my point about texas is pretty simple. Israel was artificially created after the second world war, on land already lived on by other people. Those people were thrown off their land. The gaza strip is a refugee camp full of people that have had their land and homes taken… from their perspective they are not terrorists, they are resisting an occupation that is illegal under international law.

If Israel had been created in Texas (which it could have been… it had to be created somewhere) and Texans had been thrown out of their homes, and put in camps on the Mexican border, then they would resist, and fight back with everything they had. They would not consider themselves terrorists, they would consider themselves patriots.

Most people just want to be happy have kids and get on with their lives, the idea that they are all evil and we are all good, shows a very simplistic view of humanity.

If someone illegally threw me out of my house, then I would fight them, but that would not make me a terrorist. I might even get really pissed off and call for the death of the squatters/occupiers…. I would feel justified. Of course friends of the squatters might call me a terrorist.

If we want peace which I certainly do, then the only way is talk to each other, palestinians shoot crappy home made rockets, Israelis drop phosphorous bombs and cluster munitions…..

I know I am wasting my time here, as you think in terms of steriotypes, there are evil Israelis, and good Palastineans, and vice versa…. humans come in all sorts of varieties, and all are capable of good. But to you everything is completely black and white…..

the germans in the second world war were christians, but that doesn't mean all christians are bad

I don't know what all the moslems think, some probably hate jews, some probably couldn't care less.
You seem to know what everyone thinks.
throughout the history of europe, the main persicutors of jews were the christians. That is why they became money lenders, because chritians were not allowed to do it, and jews were not allowed to work

There are no 2 sides of anything. Right is right and wrong is wrong. It is black and white, good and evil. If my view of what is right and wrong is simplistic to you then so be it.
The use of crappy home made rockets as you put it are still killing. You cannot justify terror by saying the Palestinians have unequal fire power.
If your actions would be as you say then i would sadly call you a terrorist

I agree anti semitism is rife in the middle east, but it has also been rife in europe for centuries, Germany was/is largely a christian country, yet that didn't stop the holocaust. If you look at the history of Europe pretty much everyone has persicuted the jews. But particularly the Christians from the dark ages onwards.

Of course the apropriation of Arab land to create Israel after the war has really exacabated things.

And the crusades, please include the crusades.

where the pope said all your sins would be forgiven and you would go to heaven if you went and killed moslems… might as well include them

No, Gaz, the Nazis were not Christian. Hitler and the Nazis were radically secular, and hated Christianity, but of course were quite happy to co-opt Christianity for their purposes. In their rise to power they needed the support of the masses, and enlisting the old Nordic and Teutonic myths was most helpful, along with claiming to be “doing the Lord’s work” etc. Such God talk was political opportunism, pure and simple, not personal conviction. Hitler and his henchmen hated Christianity and did all they could to eliminate the church and/or use it for their own ends. Read Hitler’s Table Talk or Mein Kampf, Steve. Hitler regarded Christianity as one of the great “scourges” of history. Such quotes can be multiplied at length.

Hitler’s source of inspiration was not the Bible but Darwin and Nietzsche. Hitler and the Nazis saw themselves as promoting the survival of the fittest, not pushing some Christian agenda. Just one representative quote from Mein Kampf will suffice here: “If nature does not wish that weaker individuals should mate with the stronger, she wishes even less that a superior race should intermingle with an inferior one; because in such cases all her efforts, throughout hundreds of thousands of years, to establish an evolutionary higher stage of being, may thus be rendered futile.”

Hitler tried to present the idea of an Aryan Christ who would purge the Jews, something which Pope Pius XI rightly and strongly denounced at the time. And you are quite wrong about the Jews as well. Hitler hated the Jews because of their racial identity, not their religion. Like today, plenty of Jews back then were quite secular.

No, Gaz, the Nazis were not Christian. Hitler and the Nazis were radically secular, and hated Christianity, but of course were quite happy to co-opt Christianity for their purposes. In their rise to power they needed the support of the masses, and enlisting the old Nordic and Teutonic myths was most helpful, along with claiming to be “doing the Lord’s work” etc. Such God talk was political opportunism, pure and simple, not personal conviction. Hitler and his henchmen hated Christianity and did all they could to eliminate the church and/or use it for their own ends. Read Hitler’s "Table Talk" or "Mein Kampf", Gaz. Hitler regarded Christianity as one of the great “scourges” of history. Such quotes can be multiplied at length.

Hitler’s source of inspiration was not the Bible but Darwin and Nietzsche. Hitler and the Nazis saw themselves as promoting the survival of the fittest, not pushing some Christian agenda. Just one representative quote from Mein Kampf will suffice here:

“If nature does not wish that weaker individuals should mate with the stronger, she wishes even less that a superior race should intermingle with an inferior one; because in such cases all her efforts, throughout hundreds of thousands of years, to establish an evolutionary higher stage of being, may thus be rendered futile.”

Hitler tried to present the idea of an Aryan Christ who would purge the Jews, something which Pope Pius XI rightly and strongly denounced at the time.

Dont forget the catholic priests, and anyone else you can think of to take the heat off the evil cult of Islam,

And if you can't see that people might just want to resist having things stolen from them then sadly I would have to call you stupid

So i am stupid for not agreeing to terrorist murder.
The difference may be that i actually value life and do not feel "things stolen" from me gives me a reason to murder.

fair enough, So if the germans had managed to invade britain in ww2, and stolen our land, you would not have advocated trying to kill them, because that would be pure terrorism. That is a really interesting point, I had no idea you were such a pacifict… respect to you for that!

Murder is murder, whoever it is.
I advocate murdering no one.
No one has the right to take life.
Equally no one has the right to plan another's murder, not for land or anything else.
I trust we understand each other more.

"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?" Adolph Hitler

http://books.google.com/books?id=XLSa_RIDHMUC&amp…

"We do not know whether Hitler is going to found a new Islam. (He is already on the way; he is like Mohammad. The emotion in Germany is Islamic; warlike and Islamic. They are all drunk with wild god). That can be the historic future." – Karl Jung, The Collected Works Volume 18, The Symbolic Life (1939)

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/021472.php#mor…

CNN – Islam and Nazism:

http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/18/cnn-video-i…

Islamic Mein Kampf:

http://www.terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-ka…

Arab land? Are you really that dense? Look into any unbiased history book, and you will find that Israel has existed on that same strip of land for THOUSANDS of years. Here is one of hundreds of places you can check this out – http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/isra…- so don't whine for "Palestine" being stolen, when the TRUTH is that the Jews came home to take back what was rightfully theirs. Arabs tried to steal it again and again and failed, which is what Arab armies and terrorists usually do.

The Mufti and
the Fuhrer
By Mitchell Bard

In 1941, Haj Amin al-Husseini fled to Germany and met with Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Joachim Von Ribbentrop and other Nazi leaders.

He wanted to persuade them to extend the Nazis’ anti-Jewish program to the Arab world.

The Mufti sent Hitler 15 drafts of declarations he wanted Germany and Italy to make concerning the Middle East. One called on the two countries to declare the illegality of the Jewish home in Palestine.

Furthermore, “they accord to Palestine and to other Arab countries the right to solve the problem of the Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries, in accordance with the interest of the Arabs and, by the same method, that the question is now being settled in the Axis countries.”1

In November 1941, the Mufti met with Hitler, who told him the Jews were his foremost enemy. The Nazi dictator rebuffed the Mufti's requests for a declaration in support of the Arabs, however, telling him the time was not right. The Mufti offered Hitler his “thanks for the sympathy which he had always shown for the Arab and especially Palestinian cause, and to which he had given clear expression in his public speeches….The Arabs were Germany's natural friends because they had the same enemies as had Germany, namely….the Jews….”
Hitler replied:
Germany stood for uncompromising war against the Jews. That naturally included active opposition to the Jewish national home in Palestine….Germany would furnish positive and practical aid to the Arabs involved in the same struggle….Germany's objective [is]…solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere….In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. The Mufti thanked Hitler profusely.2

In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary.

He escaped from French detention in 1946, however, and continued his fight against the Jews from Cairo and later Beirut. He died in 1974.

The Husseini family continues to play a role in Palestinian affairs, with Faisal Husseini [dead 2001], whose father was the Mufti's nephew, still regarded as one of their leading spokesmen in the territories.

there is more and even pictures for the illiterate.
http://emperors-clothes.com/bosnia/svijet.htm

please stop trying to make history muslim friendly, it isn't and neither are they. try as hard as you want, but the truth is out there.

On the 10th of February of 1943 Hitler gave the green light for the creation of a division made up of Bosnian Muslims, whose main purpose would be fighting Tito's partisans in Bosnia.

A group of Muslim volunteers from the Handzar division. All wear the fez. Their logo consists of a skull and crossbones and an SS eagle. The fez was worn by the Muslim soldiers and their German officers alike. There were different models of fez in different colors (green or red and with or without the tassel). A scimitar or curved sword and a swastika were engraved on uniform collars.

Himmler: "Muslims responded to the call of Muslim leaders and joined our side because of their hatred of our joint Jewish-English-Bolshevik enemies, and because of their belief and respect for, above all — Our Fuehrer."

one thing the nazi's did do, was they kept excellent records about everything they did. every meeting, every plan every thing they did they kept a record of because they thought it would be important for the start of their empire. Now the world can use it to see the evil that it really was but many people prefer to be blind and stupid to the past and listen to who ever shouts the loudest.

liberals, dumbing down education for two generations and counting.

but for a muslim to get to their heaven they must be involved with the killing of a non-muslim. So those who cant blow themselves up (usually because they think they are to important to the cause and like to tell others to go do it), they can donate money for someone else to blow themselves up and they get paradise for supporting jihad.

Arab land? Are you really that dense? Look into any unbiased history book, and you will find that Israel has existed on that same strip of land for THOUSANDS of years. So don't whine for "Palestine" being stolen, when the TRUTH is that the Jews came home to take back what was rightfully theirs. Arabs tried to steal it again and again and failed, which is what Arab armies and terrorists usually do.

Islamo-Fascism has been explained best by Norman Podhoretz.

http://www.learnoutloud.com/Catalog/Religion-and-…

http://www.hoover.org/multimedia/uk/13710797.html

Awesome!!! That is the book I was trying to think of but could not remember!! Thank you!!

Awesome!!! That is the book I was trying to think of but could not remember!! Thank you!! The truth is out there, but muslims and the leftist/socialist/apologist numbnuts' minds are closed.