Video: Jewish American kid v. "Palestinian" American kid

"It all started when Israel drove out the Arabs and created the State of Israel"

Some people don't know any better. Most Arabs left on their own after being promised by their "brethren" that they can have it back plus more once the Israelis are decimated. Too bad for them Israel won the war…

Besides, maybe they also forgot how the Arabs massacred tons of Jews in Chevron before Israel was a state. What was that for?

Me again. How are you? Are you saying that Palestine did not exist before Israel was created?

I've said it before and I will say it again, in the history of the world, Palestine has never existed as a nation. The region known as Palestine was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their ancestral homeland. It was never ruled by Arabs as a separate nation.

The Palestinian nationhood argument is the real strategic deception – one geared to set up the destruction of Israel. Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

No matter how many people convince themselves that the aspirations for Palestinian statehood are genuine and the key to peace in the Middle East, they are still deceiving themselves.

Israel and the West must not surrender to terrorism by granting the killers just what they want – a public relations triumph and a strategic victory. It's not too late to say no to terrorism. It's not too late to say no to another Arab terror state. It's not too late to tell the truth about Palestine.

via http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ART…

There was a REGION called Palestine (named thus by the Romans after Judea – a Jewish country – was crushed by Roman legions. It was NEVER a country.

The leftist announcer on CNN really does not get it. He just kept on saying that Hamas was elected. SO WHAT?!?!

Does that mean that we should accept terrorist groups?

Thank you, Walter Lane. I have been labouring this point ad nauseum to these mindless fools, but they prefer dogma to reason. Like David Irving, they rewrite history to suit themselves. Oh, and by the way, should you be tempted to bring up the attempted invasions of Israel by massed Muslim forces, refrain from doing so. In Basil Fawlty's immortal words, "Don't mention the war!"

Well said, John Infidelesto! Don't expect the half-wits to agree with you, though.

After the Romans effectively obliterated Israel (I think they called it Judea then) that area became a piece of land called the palestine area and remained that way until 1948. The muz conquered it. The Mameluke conquered it. The Turks conquered it, and Egypt too at some time….anyhow, for about 1800+ years it had no designation as a country. 1947 came along and the world was looking for a place to put the surviving European Jews….the Jews chose the palestine area……where there had been a continuous Jewish presence the whole time and, at one time (the last time it actually was a state) it was the Jewish homeland given to them by GOD HIMSELF. And there, roughly, you have it.

Oh, you mean, for starters, May of 1948? Or the 6 Day War? That's like the judge who said, "This is a courtroom! Do NOT bring up the LAW here!" (when trying an IRS case) or Peter Sellers in "Dr. Strangelove ("This is the WAR ROOM! You can't fight here!"). "Newsspeak" abounds.

This vid is such an obvious CNN set-up. The Jewish chick sat there and had no answers to give the fat hamas chick. I'd have jumped all over her. One false statement after another. The commentator has obviously never heard any history of the area and has a twisted view of what he should know. Guess Ronald Reagan was right. "Liberals know so much that's not true". On national TV….what a farce!

If you mean Palestine as an ill-defined area of land, NO. It was NOT a country, just as The Middle East is not a country. Israel came into being 40 years before Palestine the STATE (what a shitty state!) was born. That is a fact, whether you like it or not. Buy a history book written by a scholar; not one of your poxed pseudo-intellectuals. Why are you all so determinedly STUPID?

Correct me if I am wrong, but Hitler was elected, too, wasn't he? As a matter of interest, how many of the Muslim leaders in the Middle East were elected over the past 50 years?

I attempted to reply to your question a few minutes ago, but it seems I was unsuccessful. That vaguely-defined area called Palestine DID exist long before the world was blessed with the reality of Israel, but Palestine THE COUNTRY was not born until 1988, 40 years after the creation of Israel. Define your terms if you wish to engage in rigorous debate.

Yes, the Palestinians elected a terrorist group. Now they are paying for it. In the ever famous words of Jeremiah Wright, Gaza's chickens are coming home to roost.

@Psycho,
"Besides, maybe they also forgot how the Arabs massacred tons of Jews in Chevron before Israel was a state. What was that for"

It was for the cause of allah.

There has never been a nation called Palestine. Even muslim terrorist leaders of the PLO have admitted as much.

looks like the palestinians got what they voted for, death. oh wait what or who did we just elect? damn

there is an obvious "hello" item here, why doesn't any of the arab muslim nations that are there open their borders (there is plenty of sand for everyone) and let the palestinians in? Being muslims shouldn't they be helping each other in love and peace?

oh wait, I almost forgot the anti-Israeli propaganda that they get to use by keeping the palestinians in refugee camps and making them sacrifice themselves in front of the jewish guns, so the other muslims can sit back and watch the action on tv.

Good to see you back, Tonto!

King Herod ruled what? He ruled Judea in the name of Rome. So it was a country, reigned over by a king, sponsored by Rome. Tah Dah!

King Herod ruled what? He ruled Judea in the name of Rome. So it was a country, reigned over by a king, sponsored by Rome. The kingdom of Judea….aka Israel.

JUDEA was a country, not Palestine. I swear…do people READ? The country was WIPED OUT. As an insult to the Jews, Rome renamed the area Palestine (after the Philistines). Try looking it up. As my daughter would say, "It ain't rocket surgery".

Ha

Tonto, Walter, John, Ender and Psycho: Have you noticed how Islamically quiet it is here? Not a whisper from the followers of He-Who-Preferred-No-Pubic-Hair. I wonder why.

Jeez dude, Is that a bad thing? About 6 months ago there were some muz clowns in here that turned it into a long winded circus. They took topics to the moon and back with a blizzard of BS. It got arduous. And their super long arguements and comments were pages long…and unrelated and inconsequential. Count yer blessings Beej.

Beej, About 6 months ago there were a couple muz freaks in here that would post pages of arguments that may or may not have had anything to do with the subject at hand. It was a real pain in the butt to hack all through that stuff and keep ones temper. I say, count yer blessings.

I think this film is worth watching it might help in some compassionate understanding of the situation
http://www.pppl.org/index.html

I sympathise with what you are saying, Tonto2, but a pain in the butt is easily fixed by an ANALgesic! I prefer, though, to see lots of messages from Moslems because their astonishing contortions to justify their behaviour are most illuminating and entertaining. I would like to think that their demented outpourings and their willingness to trample truth might ignite doubt in the minds of some of their fellows, or am I being silly? No matter: we can always shoot them down because we are on the side of reason, whereas they have only their silly old book to use in their defence.

Dang! You might be even more twisted than I am Beej !! Keep an eye on it, medication fixes it….

Thank you for the advice, Tonto. A spot of the old Machiavellian is no bad thing when one is dealing with these people.

virtually none that I know of

God HIMSELF… you fucking idiot!… what a stupid argument

The British chose to call the land they mandated Palestine, and the Arabs picked it up as their nation's supposed ancient name, though they couldn't even pronounce it correctly and turned it into Falastin a fictional entity.