[Pic] The Cutest Little Muslim Nazi Ever aka Child Abuse

by Infidelesto on February 12, 2009 · Comments

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  • U R Gull-Able
    that picture is so obviously doctored its painful
  • JEWHAWK
    And the World Trade Center twin towers are still there, with their mighty 110 stories...

    The Jews David Copperfield and David Blaine managed to camuflage them to appear
    to be vanished !!

    The 9/11 did not happen. It was a MAGIC TRICK performed by the Jews...
    What about the FOUR airliners hijacked by muslims ?

    The Pentagon's damage was "doctored" too...
    Another Jewish trickster, Harry Houdini, came to life just to perform the Pentagon's
    trick and blame the muslims !!

    Makes sense.

    Everything bad muslims do is all part of a Zionist Plan to smear their marvellous
    reputation...

    Those Jews...so clever !!

    Could you give me a high five for that ?

    By the way, have you stuffed your underware with explosives today, dear ?
  • Beejj
    Yes, and the scenes of Muslims rejoicing in the streets upon hearing of the 9/11 attacks were so obviously the product of Hollywood, weren't they?
  • migueljs16
    have britain gone mad, this is child abuse

    the parents should be arrested

    I would be arrested for showing myself naked in front of a child but the child holding a plate incciding hate by the parents is OK?
  • Good grief....sifting thru xkon's posts is like herding cats!! I tried to read most of them, but the umpteen million repeated posts are killing my patience. I guess you're trying to hammer your point in? Or..... you just can't figure out the computer.
    I had to respond to this kool aid drinker. Everybody KNOWS Hitler & others like him were looney tunes. There is no debate, it's common knowledge. But for some bizarre reason, we're tippy toeing when there's Muslim/Islam atrocities? I dunno man, uhhh....... do you NEED a multiple choice when asked who is known for suicide bombings, beheadings, honor killings etc? Why does everyone jump to Islam on these incidences? Why are people being refered to as Islamaphobes? WHO ELSE DOES THIS CRAP? Hindus? Christians? Mormons? Jews? Scientologists? Wiccans? The most obvious answer is usually correct, hhmm?
    I'll throw you a bone though........ no not ALL people of Islamic faith are these extremists. It is just like any other religion in that some are passionate about their faith, others are lukewarm & just go thru the motions. However....I have not seen any devout followers of ANY other faiths commit the acts that Islam/Muslims do. It's just a fact. In Christianity, there HAVE been some terrible things done. The difference is....the religion was used as a political tool. The violence was not "called for" by the religion/beliefs. Islam & their politics are one in the same are they not?

    Ahhhh I could type for hours, but I'll leave it at that for now.
  • hellosnackbar
    Well stompy now that you've read Xcon the mad cow.
    Get aload of Belladonna(IAC passim_
    Bella makes Xcon seem relatively sober.
  • Gaahhh!! I don't know if I could take it! I mean c'mon...if it takes you an entire PAGE to defend your beliefs, there's something wrong. It shouldn't be that complicated to explain something that is justified & right. The truth is simple in my experience.
  • ADIZZY999
    Icredible that she is married with two more kids.
  • ADIZZY999
    Bolton for our freedom!!!
  • wahoo65cavs
    Educate yourself? My friend Xkon, I have lived in Saudi Arabia for two years. In general it takes 3 or 4 Saudis to replace one Westerner on the job. If you see the ignorance on the highways such as passing on shoulders at 160 KPH or talgating at the same speed, and the aftermath (the incredibe accidents) wo is more ignorant? The nepotism will be the fall of this economy if they decide to illiminate the westerners runnign things for them. The youth...well 3 out of four in the workplace have an entitlement attitude and do absolutely nothing. One Westerner does the work of 10 of them. If you are a member of the right tribe you can have a Westerner fired for asking you to do your job or if he says something to hurt your precious little infantile feelings. They act like children in a daycare and not responsible adults. This is why if saudiazation takes place quickly (as some advocate) then industry here will not come close to it's potential. I thought islam frowned upon backbiting and lying. But that's only other muslims. I have been the victum of many instances of predjudice and lying.

    You need to educate yourself my friend. You want out cars, our clothes, our electronic devices, our air conditioning, all of the convienences don't you? 60 years ago while we were inventing these things you were still living in the desert in tents eating dates and camel milk. half of you still were 30 years ago. Lets take ou tintelligence back and all of these things back and you will be back there again, riding camels living in tents....Wage war against us and you will be eradicated in months. You better appreciate our tolerance or you would have already been eradicated. I would say sent back to the middle ages but you are still there.
  • Sorry I'm new & still catching up, but what a fantastic post!! You hit it right on the head. If Islam is so superior, you would have taken over the globe long ago. They are way too busy warring to stream line their goal & get to it. Thankfully I might add! I swear, I am ....SICK....sick to death of hearing the disdain for Christians here in America. You want oppression? You want intolerance? Just wait. The rate we're going politically, & the growth of the Muslim population in our country. These people will WISH it WAS Christian ideals there were living with. At least under our laws you have the right of free speech to criticize the prevalent religions in this country with no death threats!
  • SirRuncibleSpoon
    Please excuse the newbie posting, but I have a few points of curiosity. One is purely operational: How do I get my chosen image to replace the bland little image that now accompanies my name? Second question: Below this comment box xkon has several identical postings in a row. What's up with that? Is the replication something xkon has engineered? Has some newbie like me done something incredibly stupid whilst trying to respond to the original xkon posting? Should President Obama host a beer-lifting tete-a-tete between Beejj and this xkon person to insure harmony on the planet? How will I know if someone responds to these important questions?

    The more I learn about Islam–and I am systematically pursuing understanding!–the religion seems less like a path to God than a dark alley down which hell's minions wait to mug inattentive pilgrims.
  • Beejj
    Further to that which I wrote late last night, Runcible, I wish you well in your stated aim of reading the Koran, but you'd be better off sticking to Lear's work if you seek enlightenment. It's a book that is so wayward and so packed with arcane, cryptic tommyrot that Churchill's words about Stalin spring to mind, even if I cannot quote him verbatim: "An enigma wrapped in mystery and ............." someone help me, please! HSB? FBF? Christine? Kal? Stormrider? ...................?? You can read the filthy thing till you are blue in the face, but you are better off judging the religion (Sir Wilhelm, wise fellow, refuses point blank to refer to it as such, and who am I to argue with him?) by the deeds of its followers. Verily, 'tis a "religion" (sorry, Sir W) tailor-made for the subjugation of women from equal human beings to beasts of burden to be ravished at will from a very early age. I see that you have already fallen into the trap of giving credence to the Muslim claim that atrocities are committed only by a tiny minority. Mend your ways! Read Jewhawk's words as he wisely reminds us that Islamic terror is funded by its "moderates". Keep in mind, too, Geert Wilder's words: "There is no moderate Islam. There is only Islam."

    Doubtless you have already spent time reading through messages posted by people on this site, and equally doubtless you will continue to do so. I find it a pleasure to read and to re-read the words of those I have mentioned in my two replies to you, but I curiously omitted to mention Infidel Tabatha (good woman, that) and the peerless Tonto (a modern-day hero). Be warned: Tonto does not pull punches! He disdains attempts to be politically correct, for he sees political correctness (as do I) as the language of the weak and the timid - the language of those who shy from reality and gravitate to a Walter Mitty lifestyle. Given that which you wrote, seemingly looking down your nose at those who are unafraid to bare their very souls, you might take a dim view of Tonto's offerings. Don't!!! He is always and always and always SPOT ON. Tonto can more cleverly say in ten words what it would take me paragraphs to write. If I had to cross a burning desert and wanted to reach the other side alive, I would want Tonto at my side. If I had to go 15 rounds with Marciano, I would want Tonto in my corner. When, in the future, the shit hits the fan and the Muslims gain a majority, the civilised world will turn to its Tontos for salvation.

    You will also find contributions made by Muslims. Read them carefully and pay close attention to those of their messages that are responses to others' posts. I promise you will discover that they have absolutely no ability to debate. Christine routinely wipes the floor with them, and she is not alone. They will NEVER answer a direct question, for to do so would only illuminate the wretchedness of their suffocating faith. They will invariably cry that whenever we point out the evil of the Koran, our words are mistranslations or "misinterpretations". Only the other day, some idiotic Muslim woman wrote to say that the Koranic allowance of wife-beating really means that the husband can do no more than tap the back of the hand of his wife. When asked, TWICE, to tell us where this is to be found in the Koran she immediately disappeared. It happens all the time, as you will discover. Some Muslim dickrash recently referred to Islam's "great achievements", so I asked him to give me examples of any that had been made during the past 500 years. Guess what! Silence! And so it goes.

    People on this site know that I despise religion, but there is only one "religion" (sorry, Sir W!!!) I fear and would wipe out, had I the power to do so, and that is Islam. Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc bear me no malice, but Islam despises me and would, if it could, eradicate me for my refusal to join its rank ranks.
  • SirWilhelm
    No need to apologize Beejj, I merely state my opinion. I hope Sir Spoon will find that he agrees with me when he completes his research, but I'm sure he'll at least agree with us that Islam is evil. We agree to disagree on other issues too, but we are both infidels here with a mutual enemy. Lets keep up the good fight, each in our own way.
  • hellosnackbar
    Beej after much thought the actual quote is:A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.
  • hellosnackbar
    Excellent summary Beej,
    The conclusion that Muslims cannot debate; is their pathetic refusal to acknowlege truth derived logic.
    It would seem that vice in any shape or form is right; if it is in defence of "the death cult".
    It's the most hideous ideology ever conceived!
    Psychopaths are us! would be a fair description!
  • Beejj
    Runcible, I have just arrived home from a torrid night of delivering lectures, so I am tired. I have swiftly read your posts and will endeavour to respond after giving them the scrutiny they deserve. I ask you, though, to desist from trying to take the moral high ground as when you wrote something to the effect that those who become a bit warm and hurl insults display they have exhausted their capacity to express themselves. It is tedious. As for your idea that I should be in the company of Obama to debate xkon, I believe you have just ensured a night of nightmares for me. Frankly, I would not piss on Obama if he were on fire.
  • julius
    Very artistic,crazy and insane,good start to realize how ridiculus this looks,Nazi swaztica and Muslims are they trying to insult the JEWS?.Funny,NOT-YEA whatever! NAzis were not a religion just an ideology who didnt believe in Gods Way why are they in this picture depicting it,WEIRDOS. NAzis ,believe in the state,motherland ,Hitler,WHITE SUPREMICEY. Do they remember Germans in North Africa? Complete idiots.Cannot really coment on this on except(Sping time for HITLER in GERMANY).Thanks Mel Brooks.Lets make a sequel.
  • sarah
    this is redicules the jews didnt do shit to us
  • JEWHAWK
    Disgusting.

    Although I'm already used to see this kind of horrific hatred,I'm still
    amazed by the absolute lack of mainstream media coverage
    about it.It makes me wonder if we,Jews,really "DOMINATE"
    the media as David Duke says.If that was the case,this picture
    would be featured at the New York Times front page.
    But it isn't.And hardly will be.
  • Beejj
    Xkon, I seek a favour of you. To save me the task of going onto You Tube again, please give me the names of these scientists who converted to Islam and I'll tell you if they were any good. Bet they weren't
  • Really? Why don't you double check on that? And have we not had this discussion before? I posted you various of links on another post replying to you, giving you not only Atheists converting to Islam, but Atheist scientists converting to Islam. But you know what? I will provide it for you once more. And I'll provide you with the Non-Muslim Scientist's Comments on their discovery of scientific FACTS on the Quran. Here are Scientists, Atheists, Christians, Jews, Zionists, Hindus who all CONVERTED to Islam:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IspK651RpY&fe...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUPYs0gElU&fe...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JW5x_GPsXc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0op5MIyG3Xg&fe...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHuiFWYRAZM&fe...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPhY8tuMvPc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZadQtDfW7E&fe...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nicjAQiqojw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DabIO_gwRgo&fe...
  • Beejj
    Xkon, I visited You Tube to check out the were atheist/now Muslim scientists. They are nobodies, just everyday johnnies who know a bit of science. They have never and will never contribute to the advancement of scientific thinking. No front-line scientist has ever converted to Islam: far too intelligent to do so.
  • It is statistically proven that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
    The growth rate of Islam, according to the U.S. Center for World Mission, at 2.9% is higher than the 2.6% growth rate of the world's population.
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    "Already more than a billion-people strong, Islam is the world's fastest-growing religion." ABCNEWS, Abcnews.com

    "Islam is the fastest growing religion in North America." TIMES MAGAZINE

    "Moslems are the world's fastest-growing group..." USA TODAY, The population referance bureau, Feb. 17, 1989, p.4A
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    <a href="http://www.sultan.org/articles/convert.html">" target="_blank">http://www.sultan.org/articles/convert.html
    <a href="http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/26577">" target="_blank">http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/26577
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    Or you can simply search it up yourself if you're in denial.
  • Sealeo
    Sorry that I put the finger on the wron button here. I dislike this comment. I think that the reason Islam is growing, is that the muslim an islamists produce so many children and that is a reasonof that thet are growing. There are not many that want to convert to that faith, if they have anything to think with in there brains. If U look at Ur leaders, they all got greidy and become very rich and stil the people with Ur faith is still suffering and are real poor. One other thing that hit me too, is that Ur people are often married to their own cousins and thet is a bad thing since there will be an inbreeding and that is also a reason of failure in the brain. Sorry that my comment came as late as one year after this issue and the article.
  • Beejj
    As far as Science is concerned, allow me to be your encyclopedia: you can be the encyclopaedia of the irrational. All I ask is for the name of just ONE high-ranking atheistic scientist who converted to Islam. If he's a highly regarded man (or woman) he/she will be readily googled. Curtail your search to the past 100 years, if you like, or to Nobel Prize winners.
  • hellosnackbar
    Muslim scientist, the only one I ever heard of isA Q Khan and he should be dead.
    Otherwise muslim scientists like muslim scholars are oxymoronic
  • Beejj
    One has to be careful, Hellosnackbar, when using the word "scientist". The loosest definition would be someone who studies a science or makes a living from it, and the world overflows with such people. The huge majority of them are intellectually ordinary, very few being cutting edge, and hardly any being capable of those gigantic leaps that result in dramatic progress. Many people seem to think that "scientist" means a true boffin and that he/she who wears that label is up there with Feynman, et al. Nonsense. They are just everyday journeyman who will achieve nothing of lasting worth, or any worth at all. It's fascinating to note that there have been plenty of front-line Jewish scientists, but not one from the Muslim world despite their vast numerical superiority. This tells you much about the enslavement of the intellect caused by their iron-age thinking. AQ Khan is a journeyman who never advanced scientific thing by even a picometre. He left Pakistan to work as an everyday johnny in one of the European countries - I seem to remember it was Holland - and there he found he was in a position to steal secrets vital to Bhutto's dream of building the Pakistan atomic bomb. Subsequent efforts on his part forged contacts with companies in other countries with a view to obtaining the special alloys, etc, vital to the construction of the centrifuges and so on.

    Once upon a time only the "killer' (!!) physicists had the mental wherewithal to progress far enough into the nuclear realm to unearth the secrets that would lead to the building of the bomb, but those days are long gone and even a decent undergraduate can master the theory quite easily. The building of the bomb was a triumph of engineering, not physics, so we live in an age when any country having access to the appropriate materials can make one. It's not really very clever any more.

    AQ Khan is not, never was, and never will be a scientist of note, but he was a cunning gatherer of information and materials who put together a team able to fit all the pieces of the jigsaw into place. That's all. Please, never be tempted to mention this man in the same breath as Einstein, Bohr, Oppenheimer, Feynman, Bethe and all the other JEWS!!!!
  • What am I your encyclopedia? If I give you a scientist, you ask me for a "TOP" scientist. Beej, even if you witnessed Angels you would still be in DENIAL. You can believe or not believe in anything you like. Like it matters to anyone. It's you that will be the loser in the end.
  • Beejj
    "Scientists" are two-a-penny. Dabblers. Give me an example of a TOP scientist who converted from atheism to Islam.
  • ZionistHater
    You mean one wheel chair bound, paraplegic scientist who couldn't help himself if a fly decided to poop on his nose? He's the greatest example of them all, dependant and reliant on others to live -- much less move around -- no independance what so ever. He embodies exactly what GOD is not -- not dependant on others.

    If the whole world decided to become athiest, it would make NO difference to GOD.
    Furthermore, NOT ONE of the problems would disappear -- rather they would multiply and humans and humanity, what's left of it, would cease and we would be not much better than animals. Check, worse than animals, since, even the animals know that GOD, the everlasting, self-sustaining, lives.
  • hellosnackbar
    He won't answer questions like that Beej you'll get the usual canards like"may Allah have mercy.on you.
    Or another favourite is:Wait till judgement day or a mention of the torments in Allah's punishment division(under the control of his demonic enforcer Shaitan).
    These people have a pernicious form of mental pathology which degrades their ability to think.
    They take umbrage when we laugh at them and lack the ability to laugh(like level headed people) at themselves.
    If they could only see how the civilised world sees them as deranged parrots of diabolical dogma
    then one would think they'd wake up and get a life.
  • hellosnackbar
    You stinking piece of dogshit .Stephen Hawking is a most brilliant man of science who's triumph over extreme infirmity is an example to us all that the human spirit can triumph in extreme adversity.(I am,of course referring to our new anti semite contributor

    His legendary achievements should have resulted in a knighthood a quarter of a century ago.
    He turned it down and so would I(fat chance)presumably because turds like Iqbal Sacranie(paedophilia supporter)just like your mad prophetPBUH(pus be upon him).were awarded one thus devaluing tha award to zero.
    God doesn't need anyone(he's nonexistent)because it's only idiots who imagine they need him/her.
  • Beejj
    I'm not at all sure what point you are trying to make when you refer to Stephen Hawking, but you seem to be mocking him for his distressing physical condition. (Tell me of just ONE Muslim whose intellect even begins to compare with Hawking's.) Clearly, your belief in God has taught you to be a deeply sensitive, caring person.

    Now then, let's cut to the guts of the matter and cease poking fun at cripples. Who is this God? Why do you believe in his/her/its existence. What evidence is there for his/hers/its existence? How old were you when you used REASON to conclude that he/her/it exists? What decided you to arrive at such a conclusion? I look forward to being exposed to your LOGIC. While you are about it, perhaps you can produce evidence to support your outlandish claim that "even animals know that God lives."
  • Beej, why don't you go on with your bright ideas to the NON-Muslim scientists (whom some were Atheists and converted to Islam) that say otherwise about the scientific evidence in the Quran.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUPYs0gElU&fe...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t73hrarODeE
  • hellosnackbar
    Muslim scientists are like muslim scholars an oxymoron.
    Sometime ago I came across a muslim scholar having achieved the apotheosis of muslim scholarship
    He could demonstate that he'd learned the qu'ran by heart.
    His name is Zakir Naik and to hear the way muslim defer to him you'd think he'd been able to count to infinity
    (twice).
    Instead he's like xkon quoting koranic drivel at every opportunity.
  • It is statistically proven that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
    The growth rate of Islam, according to the U.S. Center for World Mission, at 2.9% is higher than the 2.6% growth rate of the world's population.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "Already more than a billion-people strong, Islam is the world's fastest-growing religion." ABCNEWS, Abcnews.com

    "Islam is the fastest growing religion in North America." TIMES MAGAZINE

    "Moslems are the world's fastest-growing group..." USA TODAY, The population referance bureau, Feb. 17, 1989, p.4A
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    https://www.cia.gov/redirects/ciaredirect.html
    http://www.sultan.org/articles/convert.html
    http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/26577
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    Or you can simply search it up if you're in denial.
  • ADIZZY999
    muslim cemetery's are the fastest growing in the world!!! And most of the killing is being done by muslims. Ask your scientists to figure that out!!
  • Beejj
    Xkon, you seem to delight in claiming that Islam is rapidly growing. Just like cancer, perhaps ....... I personally believe that the growth of any religion is the saddest thing that can befall the human race, for it bespeaks ignorance, mindless superstition and the denial of rational thinking. Followers of religion prefer to heed the ramblings of those who lived long before the Age of Reason, going so far as to give credence to astonishingly athletic horses with women's faces and peacock tails, and people ascending into the sky and the dead coming back to life and all the rest of it. Darwin, Newton, Einstein, Bethe, Clerk Maxwell, Crick & Watson, Feynman and Hubble might as well never have lived. How can such mighty minds begin to compare with ............ um .......... Mohammed or Abraham? Those guys REALLY understood the secrets of the universe, didn't they?
  • Kal_El
    You point out some exceptions in priests and pastors who break their vow and molest kids. In Christian countries they are punished. In muslim countriesn, nothing happens, or they get praised. I did not repost my evidence because I leave a LOT of comments on this site, and could not remember exactly where among the THOUSANDS of comments it lay. As for having patience with people with brain disorders, with all the inbreeding
    here in the ummah, I can see why that would be ordered.As for outsmarting muslims, that does not take much effort, as over half of the muslim world is illiterate, and the rest are barely functional in modern civilized society. That is why we see muslim doctors trying to carbomb airports. I like how you say again that islam is the fastest growing religion but do not provide substantiated proof, but have the gall to tell me I want to hide evidence. If I were an ignorant kuffar, I might actually start to believe the lie that islam has anything to do with peace.
  • sammy j
    to USpace, all I can say is: Great job in truth telling. Even as a Christian, I am sick and tired of the mindless basically racist irrational bashing of Israel, the Middle East's only democracy, US true ally and a country which goes out of its way to actually help Arabs, who to show their gratitude ceaselessly terrorize innocent Israelis.

    Unfortunately because of aggressive propagandizing by the Palestinian Arabs and their supporters, somehow they've been able to convince many (unread and uninformed) that somehow they are the victims of Israeli aggression. This truly is nonsense worthy of Alice in Wonderland
    And these Islamist propagandists find all-too-willing allies among the ample reservoir of world-wide anti-Semitism, which unfortunately is alive and well, and only too eager to find a way to bash Jews again ("Oh I'm not anti-Semitic; I just hate Israel and everything they ever do"--think Pat Buchanan for example).

    But for anyone who thinks, reads, or makes an attempt to understand current and recent Middle East (and worldwide) conflict (and isn't a racist anti-Semitic Huffington Post type), what's painfully clear that nearly all world violence and certainly terrorism are direct results of Islamic fundamentalism.

    Any other explanations are basically pure bullshit.
  • hellosnackbar
    Once more the naked truth it's painful for the ROP apologists to accept that their perverse ideology is inherently evil.
    They probably think that some nasty djinn has visited you Sammy,
    Let us know when you get a death threat so we'll know that a permanently pissed off Allah; remains so.
  • Beejj
    Kal, I have tried ad nauseam to bring these matters to the attention of xkon, but he steadfastly and resolutely refuses to reply. Instead, he throws up versus from the Old Testament, seemingly believing that this is the book followed by Christians. Let's see if you have better luck than I.
  • Beejj
    Xkon, you are a stubbornly, determinedly silly person. Why can't you understand a simple question? Let me express it this way..... If a Muslim in Iran or Saudi Arabia converts to a different religion, is that person liable to the death penalty? There! That should make it clear even to the meanest understanding.
  • hellosnackbar
    That's a hard question Beej old son and the only answer you're likely to get is some drivel from the qran.
    I once had two muslims(man and wife) come for a consultation in fancy dress.
    I asked one of my staff(audibly)if there was a fancy dress party or nearby film set that had escaped my attention.
    The man(in broken english)asked me if I was taking the piss(not his exact words).
    My reply was to stuff some cotton wool in my mouth and ask with a contorted face what he was on about.
    He and his spouse left the building.
  • "I asked about the death penalty meted out by human beings for the "crime" of apostasy. Understand?"
    Yeah I understand. It's quite clear that you don't. I just gave you PROOF from the Quran, providing you with verses regarding apostates. And yet you still ramble on like I have shown you nothing. What part of the sentence, "There is no death penalty for apostates in terms of the teachings of Islam and through the Quran", do you NOT understand?

    And FYI, in case you don't know what the word 'DEBATE' means:
    Debate: to engage in argument by discussing opposing points.

    [Sound familiar to you? Or does it take a brick to get through all your denials?]
  • "I asked about the death penalty meted out by human beings for the "crime" of apostasy. Understand?"
    Yeah I understand. It's quite clear that you don't. I just gave you PROOF from the Quran, providing you with verses regarding apostates. And yet you still ramble on like I have shown you nothing. What part of the sentence, "There is no death penalty for apostates in terms of the teachings of Islam and through the Quran", do you NOT understand?

    And FYI, in case you don't know what the word 'DEBATE' means:
    Debate: to engage in argument by discussing opposing points.

    [Sound familiar to you? Or does it take a brick to get through all your denials?]
  • Beejj
    You seem, once again, xkon, to be confused. I am NOT asking what this lunatic called God might think of apostates; I asked about the death penalty meted out by human beings for the "crime" of apostasy. Understand? Again, as is your wont, you evade the issue. Again, we are not debating. You invariably make me smile when you say things such as "embarrass yourself", but let that pass and set about tending to my original point, but allow me to say that by apostasy I include turning to another faith - such as from Islam to Christianity. Same God, yes? Correct me if I am wrong, but this carries the death penalty in Islam, but not in Christianity. Don't ask me to defend anything written in the Bible, because I consider it - the Old Testament particularly - to be as idiotic as the Koran.
  • USpace
    .
    Some people we know ignore all facts and logic. People must realize that this is not a border dispute. Muslim Fundamentalists want ALL Jews dead and gone. Period.

    The delusional insanity of many on the Left and a few on the Right about this is frightening. They ignore all facts and logic. Hamas, a terrorist organization killing the so-called Palestinians' hope for peace, are evil garbage, they must be eliminated. They have sent thousands, yes thousands of missiles into Israel over the past couple of years and Israel had never exercised their right of self-defense, until recently, when Hamas broke the ceasefire and started firing rockets again.

    Israel is FINALLY doing the right thing. If Hamas is destroyed, then, if the rest of the 'Palestinians' really want peace they can give up their dream of destroying Israel, if not, they will never have peace.

    Israel must destroy as much of Hamas as possible before the MSM and the idiots and ignorants whine loud enough for them to stop. They must only quit when they are ready.

    For EVERY missile shot into Israel at least ONE missile should be returned to the area as close as possible to the shooter. Tit for tat. Every single missile should be returned. Period. Treat them like adults, if they kill, they will be killed. If they send missiles, they will receive them. That is the only way they will learn. Screw public opinion, force them to see the truth, or let them be damned.
    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    hope your kids grow up

    to strap bombs on babies
    to kill other children

    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    form a terrorist country

    then wish to be destroyed
    by committing acts of war

    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    blame your failings on the Jews

    for a few more thousand years
    they are Earth's scapegoats

    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    give Israel away

    to appease her enemies
    dishonor ALL Jews

    .
    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    never mock Hamas

    it's just their religion
    you RIGHT-WING INFIDEL
    .
    All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech there can be no real freedom.
    .
    .
    http://haltterrorism.com
    .
    http://www.lulu.com/content/2457373
    .
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, Pastors, Priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves devout "Christians?" And tell me, is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? So you're incapable of comprehending, and you don't know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those MALES you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the teachings of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the Prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed in terms of WAR. So actually, Prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the NON-Muslim CHILDREN (whom did NOT have pubic hair, and thus did not pass puberty), regardless that they had been AGAINST the Muslims in the Battle Field. And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the ages of these males. Pretty lame effort that you try and distort the story.

    Kal El, I have to say your persistent attempts to make statements against Islam with no evidence is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    And as for your statement: "Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"
    Well, I don't know about "Christ", but I KNOW Jesus (peace be upon him). Why would I want to find something negative about MY OWN MESSENGER? Are you unaware that Jesus is one of the Muslim's many respected Messengers?

    BUT, I do KNOW what the BIBLE says regarding WAR:

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    "Put the inhabitants to the slaughter without giving any quarter and burn their town down." Deuteronomy 13:15

    [Well, isn't that SHOCKING?!]
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:

    "...the Bible is taken in context for the time it was written, whereas the quran is still followed to the letter..."

    That's why there are MANY DIFFERENT versions of the Bible (Allowing Christians to practically decide on what THEY want); whereas the Quran has only ONE SAME version, making it authentic.

    As for the rest of your following statements in that paragraph, I have no reply as you only give out your worthless opinions. And as much as I would like to truly "reply" to you in return, MY religion ISLAM teaches Muslims to have patience with people---including those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. You only humiliate yourself in front of Muslims who confront you. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, Pastors, Priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves devout "Christians?" And tell me, is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? So you're incapable of comprehending, and you don't know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the age 14.)

    Kal El, I have to say your persistent attempts to make statements against Islam with no evidence is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    And as for your statement: "Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"
    Well, I don't know about "Christ", but I KNOW Jesus (peace be upon him). Why would I want to find something negative about MY OWN MESSENGER? Are you unaware that Jesus is one of the Muslim's many respected Messengers?

    BUT, I do KNOW what the BIBLE says regarding WAR:

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    "Put the inhabitants to the slaughter without giving any quarter and burn their town down." Deuteronomy 13:15

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And there's more...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:

    "...the Bible is taken in context for the time it was written, whereas the quran is still followed to the letter..."

    That's why there are MANY DIFFERENT versions of the Bible (Allowing Christians to practically decide on what THEY want); whereas the Quran has only ONE SAME version, making it authentic.

    As for the rest of your following statements in that paragraph, I have no reply as you only give out your worthless opinions. And as much as I would like to truly "reply" to you in return, MY religion ISLAM teaches Muslims to have patience with people---including those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. You only humiliate yourself in front of Muslims who confront you. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, Pastors, Priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves devout "Christians?" And tell me, is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the age 14.)

    Kal El, I have to say your persistent attempts to make statements against Islam with no evidence is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    And as for your statement: "Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"
    Well, I don't know about "Christ", but I KNOW Jesus (peace be upon him). Why would I want to find something negative about MY OWN MESSENGER? Are you unaware that Jesus is one of the Muslim's many respected Messengers?

    BUT, I do KNOW what the BIBLE says regarding WAR:

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    "Put the inhabitants to the slaughter without giving any quarter and burn their town down." Deuteronomy 13:15

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And there's more...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:

    "...the Bible is taken in context for the time it was written, whereas the quran is still followed to the letter..."

    That's why there are MANY DIFFERENT versions of the Bible (Allowing Christians to practically decide on what THEY want); whereas the Quran has only ONE SAME version, making it authentic.

    As for the rest of your following statements in that paragraph, I have no reply as you only give out your worthless opinions. And as much as I would like to truly "reply" to you in return, MY religion ISLAM teaches Muslims to have patience with people---even including people with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. You only humiliate yourself in front of Muslims who confront you. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, Pastors, Priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves devout "Christians?" And tell me, is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the age 14.)

    Kal El, I have to say your persistent attempts to make statements against Islam with no evidence is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    And as for your statement: "Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"
    Well, I don't know about "Christ", but I KNOW Jesus (peace be upon him). Why would I want to find something negative about MY OWN MESSENGER? Are you unaware that Jesus is one of the Muslim's many respected Messengers?

    BUT, I do KNOW what the BIBLE says regarding WAR:

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    "Put the inhabitants to the slaughter without giving any quarter and burn their town down." Deuteronomy 13:15

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And there's more...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:

    "...the Bible is taken in context for the time it was written, whereas the quran is still followed to the letter..."

    That's why there are MANY DIFFERENT versions of the Bible (Allowing Christians to practically decide on what THEY want); whereas the Quran has only ONE SAME version, making it authentic.

    As for the rest of your following statements in that paragraph, I have no reply as you only give out your bias opinions. And as much as I would like to truly "reply" to you in return, MY religion ISLAM teaches Muslims to have patience with people, including people with brain disorders.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, Pastors, Priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves devout "Christians?" And tell me, is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the age 14.)

    Kal El, I have to say your persistent attempts to make statements against Islam with no evidence is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    "Put the inhabitants to the slaughter without giving any quarter and burn their town down." Deuteronomy 13:15

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And there's more...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:

    "...the Bible is taken in context for the time it was written, whereas the quran is still followed to the letter..."

    That's why there are MANY DIFFERENT versions of the Bible (Allowing Christians to practically decide on what THEY want); whereas the Quran has only ONE SAME version, making it authentic.

    As for the rest of your following statements in that paragraph, I have no reply as you only give out your bias opinions. And as much as I would like to truly "reply" to you in return, MY religion ISLAM teaches Muslims to have patience with people, including people with brain disorders.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, Pastors, Priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves devout "Christians?" And tell me, is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the age 14.)

    Kal El, I have to say your persistent attempts to make statements against Islam with no evidence is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE LOT more where that came from.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:

    "...the Bible is taken in context for the time it was written, whereas the quran is still followed to the letter..."

    That's why there are MANY DIFFERENT versions of the Bible (Allowing Christians to practically decide on what THEY want); whereas the Quran has only ONE SAME version, making it authentic.

    As for the rest of your following statements in that paragraph, I have no reply as you only give out your bias opinions. And as much as I would like to truly "reply" to you in return, MY religion ISLAM teaches Muslims to have patience with people, including people with brain disorders.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, Pastors, Priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves devout "Christians?" And tell me, is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the age 14.)

    Kal El, I have to say your persistent attempts to make statements against Islam with no evidence is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE LOT more where that came from.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:

    "...the Bible is taken in context for the time it was written, whereas the quran is still followed to the letter..."

    That's why there are MANY DIFFERENT versions of the Bible (each one following as they please), and there is only ONE SAME version of the authentic Quran.

    As for the rest of your following statements in that paragraph, I have no reply as you only give out your bias opinions. And as much as I would like to truly "reply" to you in return, MY religion ISLAM teaches Muslims to have patience with people, including people with brain disorders.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, Pastors, Priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves devout "Christians?" And tell me, is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements against Islam with no evidence is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE LOT more where that came from.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements with no evidence is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html">" target="_blank">http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless. In the end, you will be the loser. And you have already proven it with this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html">" target="_blank">http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless.
    And if you can't respond to this with evidence to refute, then it means I already won this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless.
    And if you don't respond to this, it means I already won this debate.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/%3C/a%3E
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html">" target="_blank">http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Because you wanted to HIDE the evidence. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is and will always be useless.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • Kal El, in response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html">" target="_blank">http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? And of course it's only obvious why. But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Curious, but why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Curious, but why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN(who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair) who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Curious, but why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN (who did NOT pass puberty and thus have no pubic hair), the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Curious, but why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys with "pubic hair", in other words those who PASSED PUBERTY (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Curious, but why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those Males you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Curious, but why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those "boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at WAR. (Or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Curious, but why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those "boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at War. (or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    <a href="http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html">" target="_blank">http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Funny, why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it myself:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those "boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at War. (or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Funny, why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those "boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at War. (or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" And is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Funny, why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those "boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at War. (or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" So, Christianity teaches the crimes done by these people, or is it because they do not abide by the rules of Christianity? Is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Funny, why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those "boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at War. (or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    You are either in denial or ignorant. Either ways, you're a one very lost, compelling individual. And your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims is useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" So, Christianity teaches the crimes done by these people, or is it because they do not abide by the rules of Christianity? Is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Funny, why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those "boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at War. (or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to you overall:

    Your pathetic attempts to try and outsmart Muslims are useless.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" So, Christianity teaches the crimes done by these people, or is it because they do not abide by the rules of Christianity? Is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Funny, why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those "boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at War. (or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" So, Christianity teaches the crimes done by these people, or is it because they do not abide by the rules of Christianity? Is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Funny, why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those "boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at War. (or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"

    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" So, Christianity teaches the crimes done by these people, or is it because they do not abide by the rules of Christianity? Is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23870757/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23902264/
    <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/">" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23858783/
    <a href="http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html">" target="_blank">http://www.priestsofdarkness.com/stats.html
    <a href="http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...">" target="_blank">http://www.awitness.org/journal/holy_war_jihad_bi...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Funny, why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly mentions in that Hadith above: "CAPTIVES". Meaning those "boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at War. (or is this your first time knowing that?) BUT, because it is AGAINST the religion of ISLAM to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. So only the MEN were killed. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that INSPIRING?] And I got a WHOLE lot more.
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    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience with those with brain disorders.
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    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"
    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
  • In response to your first paragraph:
    You ask me to find anyone calling themselves Christians committing criminal acts. Ok, here are not even ordinary Christians, but Nuns, pastors, priests; you name it. Do they not call themselves "Christians?" So, Christianity teaches the crimes done by these people, or is it because they do not abide by the rules of Christianity? Is it like this new trend for priests to become pedophiles or what?
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    In response to your second paragraph:
    Yes, of course you are not a real Christian (which would imply you're a bad Christian, and that of course explains your ignorance)

    "I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses"
    Of course you won't because you can't find anything irrational in the Quran to begin with.

    "I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?"

    Funny, why make a statement like that and not post the actual evidence? But I'll do you the favor and post it:

    Book 38, Number 4390:
    Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
    I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

    And of course, I only realized why you didn't post it. Do you really think I couldn't take you on? You might be foolish enough to be incapable of understanding, but do you not know how to read either? It clearly says in that Hadith above: "captives". Meaning those "Boys" you mentioned were at WAR with the Muslims. As you know, people KILL their opponents at War. (or is this your first time knowing that?) Because it is AGAINST the religion of Islam to kill women, the elderly, and CHILDREN, the prophet ordered for the boys who passed puberty (i.e. MEN) to be killed, as it is WAR. So actually prophet Mohammad SPARED the lives of the non-Muslim CHILDREN who were at war with Muslims. (And no where in the Hadith does it even mention the word "boys" let alone the age 14.)

    Kal El, I must say your persistent attempts to make statements out of context is pathetic. It's like you know that everything you're saying is a load of garbage but unwilling to deny it.

    BUT, what does the BIBLE say during war?

    "Kill all the infants and suckling babies." 1 Samuel 15:3

    [Well, isn't that JUST INSPIRING?]
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    In response to your third paragraph:
    No response seeing as how your statements are your opinions. And to be honest, I would reply, but MY religion ISLAM teaches me to have patience those with brain disorders.
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    In response to your fourth paragraph:

    "As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed..."
    Kal El, please do not allow me to think that you are a complete idiot. I think you clearly saw the verses I posted about Apostates regarding Islam. And I think I also mentioned several times to you that the word 'ISLAM' and 'MUSLIM' are TWO different words. See, I even capitalized them in big letters so I could clearly emphasize it to you once more.

    "Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion"
    I don't need to; the evidence is already there.
  • Kal_El
    Again, where have we denied it? And again, nice job of sidestepping MY question, asking you to find any one calling themselves a Christian, committing the same atrocities in the name of Jesus, as muslims do, in the name of allah, being endorsed by ANY legitimate Christian Church, sect or body. Whereas I have written about countless mosques, madrassas and muslim clerics who endorse the aforementioned atrocities. Way to dissemble with those Old Testament verses though.

    And when have I ever called myself a real Christian? I do not have to rationalize or refute your quranic verses, as I am fully aware of abrogation, where a later aya revealed to the pedophile Muhammad supercedes the early verse you mention that makes islam look all nice and cuddly. I also know that muslims use the quran, the sunna and the hadith in conjunction with healthy servings of taqqiya to distort the negative image of islam. I posted a comment yesterday with some translated verses about Muhammad ordering the death of people as young as 14 because they had pubic hair. Can you find anything like that ordered by Christ?

    The main difference between the Bible and the quran is that the Bible is taken in context for the time it was written, whereas the quran is still followed to the letter, thus you have babies sold into marriage to 58 year old Muhammad wannabes, people jailed for leaving islam, and people killed for insulting the deluded, mysogynist, pedophile you call prophet Muhammad.

    As for so many Christians leaving their religion, that is their choice, unlike in islam where apostates are jailed, beaten, tortured, hanged, beheaded etc... as we have seen in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, and Indonesia, all muslim countries. I also know that in China droves of people are converting to Christianity, despite the communist government lockdown. Keep telling yourself islam is the fastest growing religion, your taqqiya will deceive even you.
  • hellosnackbar
     IntenseDebate Notification <DIV>Greetings Beej'</DIV> <DIV>Thanks for the encouragement; xkon's a simpleton, he uses all the classic ploys of the indoctrinated, ad hominems, strawman,and the most obvious of all countering an arguement by raising an issue on something</DIV> <DIV>different(I like your analogy)I bet he'd believe that Allah could count to infinityor divide by 0 .</DIV> <DIV>I firmly believe that unrelenting derision is a powerful weapon against these murdering madmen and that hopefully this "piss taking"will graduate to mainstream comedy.</DIV> <DIV>Can't wait for the summer's cricket(odd that some muslims play it).</DIV> <DIV>Anyway with a bit of luck "free speech" will be taught in madrasses sometime in the distant future.</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
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    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
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    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you a real Christian if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice the teachings of Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam.
    (Just as Christians have done throughout History) "Got it?"
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    And I'm still waiting for Beej's reply regarding to my last post, that may or may not ever come.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you a real Christian if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice the teachings of Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam.
    (Just as Christians have done throughout History.) "Got it?"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    And I'm still waiting for Beej's reply regarding to my last post, that may or may not ever come.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you a real Christian if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice the teachings of Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam.(Just as Christians have done throughout History.) "Got it?"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    And I'm still waiting for Beej's reply regarding to my last post, that may or may not ever come.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you a real Christian if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice the teachings of Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    And I'm still waiting for Beej's reply regarding to my last post, that may or may not ever come.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice the teachings of Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    And I'm still waiting for Beej's reply regarding to my last post, that may or may not ever come.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice the teachings of Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    And I'm still waiting for Beej's reply regarding to my last post; that may or may not ever come.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice the teachings of Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    And I'm still waiting for Beej's reply; that may or may not ever come.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    And I'm still waiting for Beej's reply; that may or may not ever come.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their own religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    And I'm still waiting for Beej's reply; that may or may not ever come.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their own religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
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    And I'm still waiting for Beej's reply; that may or may never come.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their own religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, one has to practice their faith. When Muslims don't practice Islam, then Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their own religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying? :
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, you have to practice your faith. When one doesn't, Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice Christianity. Why do you think so many Christians leave their own religion in the end? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying?:
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, you have to practice your faith. When one doesn't, Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should rewrite my previous statements that I posted before to Beej, that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice it. Why do you think so many Christians are leaving their own religion? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying?:
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, you have to practice your faith. When one doesn't, Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice it. Why do you think so many Christians are leaving their own religion? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion.

    Whatever happened to this Christian saying?:
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?

    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, you have to practice your faith. When one doesn't, Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice it. Why do you think so many Christians are leaving their own religion? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion. Whatever happened to this Christian saying?:
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?
    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, you have to practice your faith. When one doesn't, Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice it. Why do you think so many Christians are leaving their own religion? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion. Whatever happened to this Christian saying?:
    “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.”
    Doesn't make you real Christians if you don't follow the Bible, than does it?
    See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, you have to practice your faith. When one doesn't, Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."

    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice it. Why do you think so many Christians are leaving their own religion? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion. See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, you have to practice your faith. When one doesn't, Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."
    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice it. Why do you think so many Christians are leaving their own religion? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion. See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, you have to practice your faith. When one doesn't, Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. "Got it?"
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."
    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice it. Why do you think so many Christians are leaving their own religion? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion. See, that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. In Islam, you have to practice your faith. When one doesn't, Muslims end up doing what we're all seeing today. Due to the fact they are NOT following Islam. Got it?
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.

    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."
    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice it. Why do you think so many Christians are leaving their own religion? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion. And what would be the point of that?
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.
    And as for your comment: "As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it..."
    Yeah, like I never realized that? Of course you don't practice it. Why do you think so many Christians are leaving their own religion? Because they don't PRACTICE their religion. And what would be the point of that?
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding to instead without even replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding without replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course took in favor of responding without replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."

    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.
  • And once again Kal El comes to the rescue to save others from responding to my posts. Kal El, get a life. You not refuting my evidence on the verses of the Quran I provided means that all your pathetic ideas come from the MEDIA and NOT from the teachings of Islam. Why do you not refute from the evidence of the Quran?
    Maybe I should post the statements again that I posted to Beej that you of course responded without replying to the actual statement.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Take it from a fellow former Christian:

    " According to Jesus, the Old Testament is alive and well. According to Isaiah 40:8, "the word of our God stands forever." The notion that these old testament verses no longer apply is completely untrue according to the Bible. Christians imagine that they "no longer apply" as a way of rationalizing their religion.

    It is when you start thinking about the Bible in this way that you understand something very important about the Bible. Either the entire Bible really is God's Word, or the entire Bible was written by primitive men with absolutely no input from God.

    There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did."

    There's really no point in denying in it. I don't understand why people change the words of God just to make their religion look more appealing. It's sad, and it's more pathetic when you have people like that challenge other people of different faiths (like Islam) by either denying or inadequately rationalizing their own religion. Nice try though.
  • Kal_El
    Dude, seriously, you keep ranting about the OLD TESTAMENT. That was passed down by the Israelites! Try finding something like the crap in the quran in the NEW TESTAMENT, in any version. As for refuting it, no one here has to, it is in there, we admit it. But we do not PRACTICE it, like muslims still do with the marrying little girls, beheading non-muslims, raping non-muslim women (I just posted about that topic in the UK), and all the other fun stuff inspired by the mullahnazis and imams, like suicide bombing, hi-jacking, carbombing, strapping bombs to kids and retarded people. Got it? Try finding a Christian who does that, endorsed by ANY Christian sect. See the difference yet?
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed in Islam, by all means go ahead and share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Islam is NOT the problem, it is the Muslims who do NOT abide by Islam. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I won't have a response to this one, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging. I hope in this post I haven't been "tearing away down a different path." (As you would say)

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed in Islam, by all means go ahead and share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Islam is NOT the problem, it is the Muslims who do NOT abide by Islam. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I won't have a response to this one, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging. I hope in this post I haven't been "tearing away down a different path." (As you would say)

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because Beej, it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed in Islam, by all means go ahead and share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Islam is NOT the problem, it is the Muslims who do NOT abide by Islam. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I won't have a response to this one, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging. I hope in this post I haven't been "tearing away down a different path." (As you would say)

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed in Islam, by all means go ahead and share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Islam is NOT the problem, it is the Muslims who do NOT abide by Islam. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I won't have a response to this one, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging. I hope I haven't in this post "tore away down a different path." (As you would say)

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed in Islam, by all means go ahead and share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Islam is NOT the problem, it is the Muslims who do NOT abide by Islam. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I won't have a response to this one, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging. I hope I have not this time "tore away down a different path."

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed in Islam, by all means go ahead and share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Islam is NOT the problem, it is the Muslims who do NOT abide by Islam. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people." (As you would say)

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I won't have a response to this one, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging. I hope I have not this time "tore away down a different path."

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed in Islam, by all means go ahead and share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Islam is NOT the problem, it is the Muslims who do NOT abide by Islam. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I won't have a response to this one, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging. I hope I have not this time "tore away down a different path."

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed in Islam, by all means go ahead and share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Islam is NOT the problem, it is the Muslims who do NOT abide by Islam. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I can only expect that I might not get a response to this, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging. I hope I have not this time "tore away down a different path."

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed in Islam, by all means share them with me. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Islam is NOT the problem, it is the Muslims who do NOT abide by Islam. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I can only expect that I might not get a response to this, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging. I hope I have not this time "tore away down a different path."

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed, by all means share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I can only expect that I might not get a response to this, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging. I hope I have not this time "tore away down a different path."

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed, by all means share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I can only expect that I might not get a response to this, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging.

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself further (more than you already have).

    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed, by all means share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I can only expect that I might not get a response to this, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging.

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed, by all means share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I can only expect that I might not get a response to this, just like the rest of our debates you left hanging.

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed, by all means share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I might get no response, just like the rest of our debates you deny.

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed, by all means share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I might get no response, just like the rest of our debates you deny.

    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed, by all means share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I might get no response, just like the rest of our debates you deny.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed, by all means share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that? Of course, I expect that I might get no response, just like the rest of our debates.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. But hey, if you have verses that order Apostates to be killed, by all means share them. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslim' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that. Of course, I expect that I might get no response, just like the rest of our debates.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslims' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that. Of course, I expect that I might get no response, just like the rest of our debates.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then? Or would you like me to give you evidence on that too? Because it would be my pleasure.
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslims' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that. Of course, I expect that I might get no response, just like the rest of our debates.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then?
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslims' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say about Apostates:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that. Of course, I expect that I might get no response.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then?
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslims' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    BUT, let's look at what the Bible has to say:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that. Of course, I expect that I might get no response.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then?
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty of more verses, but I thought two would be enough to prove it. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslims' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    Let's look at what the Bible has to say:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that. Of course, I expect that I might get no response.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then?
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So these verses are saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty more verses, but I thought two would be enough. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslims' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    Let's look at what the Bible has to say:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that. Of course, I expect that I might get no response.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then?
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you will only embarrass yourself.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So this verse is saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty more verses, but I thought two would be enough. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslims' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    Let's look at what the Bible has to say:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that. Of course, I expect that I might get no response.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then?
  • Gladly Beej. Although I have to say that if you try refuting this one, you are in fact very ignorant.
    Here are verses in the Quran about Apostates:

    Quran [47:34]---Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the Way of GOD, and then dies in disbelief, GOD will not forgive them.

    Quran [3:90]---Surely those who disbelieve after they have believed and persist in disbelief, never shall their repentance be accepted from them, and those are they who have deliberately gone astray.

    So this verse is saying that if someone leaves the path of GOD, that they will not be forgiven...I wonder where does it say killed? I actually have plenty more verses, but I thought two would be enough. And I keep saying this over and over, that 'Islam' and 'Muslims' are TWO different things. Muslims who do NOT follow their religion are not regarded as good Muslims. Can you finally get that through?

    Let's look at what the Bible has to say:

    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    And I wonder how you will refute that. Of course, I expect that I might get no response.
    Oh, and as your claim of us not having a Debate...Really? Then I must have been hallucinating someone by the name of 'Beej' talking to me then. I guess there's no point going back providing you the posts we were debating on then?
  • Beejj
    Xkon, you and I have had NO debates, try as I might to guide you along the appropriate lines. You have answered my questions???? Gosh, I seem to have missed something somewhere. You have an extraordinarily inflated sense of your intellectual ability if you believe me incapable of responding to you. Trying to debate with you is like trying to grab a fistful of mercury: no sooner do I make the attempt than you are off, tearing away down a different path. OK, let's try just one more time ........ defend Islam's death penalty for apostasy.
  • Strange, yet you have not responded to ANY of my last debates with you Beej. Why do you deny the facts? If you can prove me wrong, why do you leave my statements and questions simply hanging? Is it because you fear I am correct? Does it frustrate you that I answer questions and statements while providing evidence that you are incapable of responding to? It is after all a debate, and there are never two winners in the end, but one. If you choose to end the challenge, then your opponent is the winner. It's as simple as that.
  • Strange, yet you have not responded to ANY of my last debates with you Beej. Why do you deny the facts? If you can prove me wrong, why do you leave my statements and questions simply hanging? Is it because you fear I am correct? Does it frustrate you that I answer questions and statements that you are incapable of responding to? It is after all a debate, and there are never two winners in the end, but one. If you choose to end the challenge, then your opponent is the winner. It's as simple as that.
  • Strange, yet you have not responded to ANY of my last debates with you Beej. Don't you ever learn to accept facts? If you can prove me wrong, why do you leave my statements and questions simply hanging? Is it because you fear I am correct? Does it frustrate you that I answer questions and statements that you are incapable of responding to? It is after all a debate, and there are never two winners in the end, but one. If you choose to end the challenge, then your opponent is the winner. It's as simple as that.
  • Strange, yet you have not responded to ANY of my last debates with you Beej. Don't you ever learn to accept facts? If you can prove me wrong, why do you leave my statements and questions simply hanging? Is it because you fear I am correct? Does it frustrate you that I answer questions and statements that you are incapable of responding to? It is after all a debate, and there are never two winners in the end, but one.
  • Strange, yet you have not responded to ANY of my last debates with you Beej. Don't you ever learn to accept facts? If you can prove me wrong, why do you leave my statements and questions simply hanging? Is it because you fear I am correct? It is after all a debate, and there are never two winners in the end, but one.
  • Strange, yet you have not responded to ANY of my last debates with you Beej. Don't you ever learn to accept facts? If you can prove me wrong, why do you leave my statements and questions simply hanging? Is it because you fear I am correct? It is after all a debate, and there is all but a single winner in the end.
  • Strange, yet you have not responded to ANY of my last debates with you Beej. Don't you ever learn to accept facts? If you can prove me better, why do you leave my statements and questions simply hanging? Is it because you fear I am correct? It is after all a debate, and there is all but a single winner in the end.
  • Strange, yet you have not responded to any of my last debates with you Beej. Don't you ever learn to accept facts? If you can prove me better, why do you leave my questions hanging? Is it because you fear I am correct?
  • sammyj
    Whenever anyone invokes the "you people" thing, it's clear he's a bigot--no group can be generalized in that way. In the case of "xkon", he's either another Muslim fanatic, or simply a cowardly idiot who ignores the central reality of all Mideast conflict--intolerant Muslims attacking progressive and peace-seeking Israelis at every opportunity.
    As for Gaza and all the distortions which have accompanied that action, I have a simple suggestion for racists bigots like xkon--tell your "victim" Islamic fanatic lunatic friends there to stop attacking Israel with rockets--that would stop all the violence real fast.
    (And I'm a devout Christian!)
  • Beejj
    G'day, Hellosnackbar. Don't waste your time trying to debate a point with xkon. He has not the faintest idea of what constitutes such a procedure. If you ask him a question he will answer a different one, and if you try to make a point he will "counter" by referring to something else. It amounts to this ....... if he were to asked how to differentiate a partial fraction he would respond by demonstrating how to solve a quadratic by completion of the square and think himself no end of a clever fellow.
  • hellosnackbar
    Anything said about the egregious death cult of Islam is useful .
    It's part of a worldwide campaign of ridicule that serves to remind murdering vermin supported by insane so called religious ideology that they are kept in the public eye;and that sooner or later they will by whatever means forced to capitulate.
    I foresee a day when any individual who says "I'm a muslim" will be laughed at
    and ostracised as an idiot.
    Meanwhile the campaign continues and it's a fact that infidels always win.
    (a remark made by Mark Steyn in a signed copy of his book on the subject.)
    BTW this is not an exercise in hate it's scorn.
  • Do you find anything to argue about because you're THAT bored?

    "Who are the thousands killed would you be referring to, HAMAS?
    Reading old and unreliable information again. "

    I'm not sure if you look at the News (or can read numbers), but the death toll reached higher than 1,200. Meaning an OVERALL of more than 1,200 KILLED.
    That is written in the English Language as ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED.

    See, I'm not making this hard for you to understand. Now you can read AND write.
  • Do you find anything to argue about because you're THAT bored?

    "Who are the thousands killed would you be referring to, HAMAS?
    Reading old and unreliable information again. "

    I'm not sure if you look at the News (or can read numbers), but the death toll reached higher than 1,200. Meaning an OVERALL of more than 1,200 KILLED.
    That is written in the English Language as ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED.

    See, I'm not making this hard for you to understand.
  • Do you find anything to argue about because you're THAT bored?

    "Who are the thousands killed would you be referring to, HAMAS?
    Reading old and unreliable information again. "

    I'm not sure if you look at the News (or can read numbers), but the death toll reached higher than 1,200. Meaning more than 1,200 OVERALL KILLED.
    1,200 = one thousand two hundred
    See, I'm not making it so hard for you to understand.
  • Do you find anything to argue about because you're THAT bored?

    "Who are the thousands killed would you be referring to, HAMAS?
    Reading old and unreliable information again. "

    I'm not sure if you look at the News (or can read numbers), but the death toll reached higher than 1,200. 1,200 KILLED. That's One thousand, Two hundred.
    See, I'm not making it so hard for you to understand.
  • Do you find anything to argue about because you're THAT bored?

    "Who are the thousands killed would you be referring to, HAMAS?
    Reading old and unreliable information again. "

    I'm not sure if you look at the News (or can read numbers), but the death toll reached higher than 1,200 KILLED. That's One thousand, Two hundred.
    See, I'm not making it so hard for you to understand.
  • I'll repeat myself once more. If you have nothing useful to say that will bring either of us benefit, then save yourself the trouble.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Like a wise man once said, "He who knows nothing, says nothing."
  • I'll repeat myself once more. If you have nothing useful to say that will bring either of us benefit, then save yourself the trouble.
  • I'll repeat myself once more. If you have nothing useful to say that will bring either of us benefit, I ask you to save yourself the trouble.
  • You said: "It's actually funny how you mention the war on Gaza, and sympathize with the Israeli's and not with the thousands killed"

    Who are the thousands killed would you be referring to, HAMAS?
    Reading old and unreliable information again.

    I guess you missed the memo... 600 (six hundred) were killed during the operation. Mostly members of HAMAS and some of their unwilling human shields.
  • Do you just desperately crave attention? If you have nothing useful to say that will bring either of us benefit, I ask you to save yourself the trouble.
  • Do you just desperately crave attention? If you have nothing useful to say that will bring either of us benefit, I ask you kindly to save yourself the trouble.
  • If you took any notice at all in my post, you'll realize I never mentioned Hindus being responsible for the honor killings. I clearly said that it was done by ANYONE other than a Muslim. And I am not against Hindus. Of course you are aware of the Islamophobia spreading too.

    "Wonder where they got the beheading stuff from?"

    I don't know, but open up a History book and find out.
  • hellosnackbar
    Puerile tactics xkon you make a few facile points(with weak substantiation)then declare yourself the victor.
    People like you(and the harpie belladonna)are part of a delusional memeplex that
    believes a murdering paederastic illiterate old fleabag called Mohammed was spoken to by a man in the sky and has convinced you that he's a model for all to follow.
    There's no evidence to support this fairy taleand yet you believe you can argue cogently
    the case for idiocy.
    Give my regards to Hubal or Allah or whatever you call the mythical angry monster you worship
    And stop supporting a ridiculous ideology that can only lead to the death of innocents.
    Try the flying spaghetti monster he's much more affable.
    And remember respect has to be earned ;a fact that seems to have eluded your moronic coreligionists.
    BTW bacon butties with melted cheddar and black pepper are delicious.
    And my epithet was obtained from a howling muslim rabble.
    Go on spoil yourself.
  • Be careful how you tread...there was no mention of Hindus being involved...that is your opinion.
    Hinduphobia is on the rise...

    Given the location in India of the above mentioned msnbc link, northern and eastern, that would position the area close to Bangladesh, which is a muslim majority country.

    Reading further on the area, it could possibly be a Sikh family. The Sikh religion combines elements of the Hindu and muslim religions. Wonder where they got the beheading stuff from?
  • What, are you writing me an epic poem? I have to say that your "intriguing" words brought me no benefit. The thesaurus might not be a good idea to make your so-called points either.You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. If you can't logically reply to something, I ask you to please save yourself the trouble before any further embarrassment. And don't worry, there will be plenty more debates where you might say something useful in response.
    As for my "epithet", no it does not reflect time in 'jail'. I'm guessing there's no point in asking about yours.
  • What, are you writing me an epic poem? I have to say that your "intriguing" words brought me no benefit. The thesaurus might not be a good idea to make your so-called points either.You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. If you can't logically reply to this, I ask you to please save yourself the trouble before any further embarrassment. And don't worry, there will be plenty more debates where you might say something useful in response.
    As for my "epithet", no it does not reflect time in 'jail'. I'm guessing there's no point in asking about yours.
  • What, are you writing me an epic poem? I have to say that your "intriguing" words brought me no benefit. The thesaurus might not be a good idea either to make your so-called points.You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. If you can't logically reply to this, I ask you to please save yourself the trouble before any further embarrassment. And don't worry, there will be plenty more debates where you might say something useful in response.
    As for my "epithet", no it does not reflect time in 'jail'. I'm guessing there's no point in asking about yours.
  • What, are you writing me an epic poem? I must say that your "intriguing" words brought me no benefit. The thesaurus might not be a good idea either to make your so-called points.You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. If you can't logically reply to this, I ask you to please save yourself the trouble before any further embarrassment. And don't worry, there will be plenty more debates where you might say something useful in response.
    As for my "epithet", no it does not reflect time in 'jail'. I'm guessing there's no point in asking about yours.
  • What, are you writing me an epic poem? I must say that your "intriguing" words brought me no benefit. The thesaurus might not be a good idea either to make your so-called points.You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. If you can't logically reply to this, I ask you to please save yourself the trouble from any further embarrassment. And don't worry, there will be plenty more debates where you might say something useful in response.
    As for my "epithet", no it does not reflect time in 'jail'. I'm guessing there's no point in asking about yours.
  • What, are you writing me an epic poem? I must say that your "intriguing" words brought me no benefit. The thesaurus might not be a good idea either to make your so-called points.You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. Your ignorance is just astonishing.
    As for my "epithet", no it does not reflect time in 'jail'. I'm guessing there's no point in asking about yours.
  • What, are you writing me an epic poem? I must say that your "intriguing" words brought me no benefit. You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. The thesaurus might not be a good idea to make your so-called points. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. Your ignorance is just astonishing.
    As for my "epithet", no it does not reflect time in 'jail'. I'm guessing there's no point in asking about yours.
  • What, are you writing me an epic poem? I must say that your "intriguing" words brought me no benefit. You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. The thesaurus might not be a good idea to make your so-called points. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. Your ignorance is just overwhelming.
    As for my "epithet", no it does not reflect time in 'jail'. I'm guessing there's no point in asking about yours.
  • What, are you writing me an epic poem? I must say that your "intriguing" words brought me no benefit. You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. Your ignorance is just overwhelming.
    As for my "epithet", no it does not reflect time in 'jail'. I'm guessing there's no point in asking about yours.
  • What? Are you writing me an epic poem? I must say that your "intriguing" words brought me no benefit. You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. Your ignorance is just overwhelming.
    As for my "epithet", no it does not reflect time in 'jail'. I'm guessing there's no point in asking about yours.
  • hellosnackbar, I must say your intriguing arguments brought me no benefit. You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an already won argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. Your ignorance is just overwhelming.
    And if you must know, my "epithet" reflects being against opposition. I'm only presuming it would be pointless to ask about yours.
  • hellosnackbar, I must say your intriguing arguments brought me no benefit. You present your statements with nothingness; nothing even to intellectually debate about. So are you going to be like the rest and create fantasies when you realize there is no way out in an argument? How about looking at what I have to say and debate about the evidence provided? Are people's knowledge so degraded that they can only find ridiculous statements to make in defense? At least PRETEND to be educated. Your ignorance is just overwhelming.
  • Reading further on the area, it could possibly be a Sikh family. The Sikh religion combines elements of the Hindu and muslim religions. Wonder where they got the beheading stuff from?
  • Given the location in India of the above mentioned msnbc link, northern and eastern, that would position the area close to Bangladesh, which is a muslim majority country.
  • Considering that muslims like to videotape themselves beheading other people, and that the other religions find the idea repulsive. Which would explain why the beheading death videos, don't exist of Christians, Hindu, Buddhists or atheists committing similar crimes.
  • Main stream media never identifies the religion if it is committed muslims. That would be biased reporting. However, if it was Hindu or Christian or Buddhist or Atheist, then it would have been reported as much, with glee by the media.
  • Main stream media never identifies the religion if it is committed muslims. That would be biased reporting. However, if it was Hindu or Christian or Buddahist or Atheist, then it would have been reported as much, with glee by the media.
  • hellosnackbar
    Your arguments are facile xcon;just because atrocities were effected by barbatians of other
    religions many years ago doesn't gigive barbarian muslims the moral justification to perform similar deeds today.
    Muslim's problems are many and varied but can be summed up with the soubriquet "lack of
    sophistication.
    They have an agenda(in unholy writ) to convert the rest of humanity to the 7th century barbarism as outlined in my pigskinned bound copy of the Koran.
    They haven't the science or intelligence to compete militarily with the west but choose to infiltrate through immigration where they practice sedition, to undermine the majority culture;
    by contiuously whining about respect, tolerance,and privilege in a free society(something that
    is not tolerated in the backward hellholes from whence they came.)
    They have the quaint idea that they belong to a superior culture depite the evidence of inferiority which is all around them.
    They sponge off my taxes to gain undeserved benefit(not all)and live in ghettoes of ignorance
    distinguishing themselves by parading around in fancy dress.
    They are a disproportionate representation of the prison population and seek to corrupt other
    criminals with their ridiculous sociopathic ideology.
    (would we miss them if they went back to their origins(that would be nice)the answer is yes.
    Like one would miss a cacerous tumour or a painful chronic ingrowing toe nail.
    Get a life! dump Islam; and join the human race.
    BTW does your epithet reflect time in incarceration?
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my arguments with accuracy, while confronting others with their error. See, that's simply the power of knowledge (that so many deny are lacking). Nothing is ever pointless if you have real evidence.
    "Truth stands out clear from Error" (Qur'an 2:256)
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    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my correct arguments, while confronting others with their error. See, that's simply the power of knowledge (that so many deny are lacking). Nothing is ever pointless if you have real evidence.
    "Truth stands out clear from Error" (Qur'an 2:256)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my correct arguments, while confronting others with their error. See, that's simply the power of knowledge (that so many deny are lacking). Nothing is ever pointless if you have real evidence.
    "Truth stands out clear from Error" (Qur'an 2:256)

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my correct arguments, while confronting others with their error. See, that's simply the power of knowledge (that so many deny are lacking). Nothing is ever pointless if you have real evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my correct arguments, while confronting others with their error. See, that's simply the power of knowledge (that so many deny of lacking). Nothing is ever pointless if you have real evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my correct arguments, while confronting others with their error. See, that's simply the power of knowledge. Nothing is ever pointless if you have real evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my correct arguments, while confronting others with their error. That's the power of knowledge. Nothing is ever pointless if you have real evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my correct arguments, while confronting others with their error. That's the beauty of knowledge. Nothing is ever pointless if you have real evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my correct arguments, while confronting others with their error. That's the beauty of knowledge. Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my correct arguments, while showing others with error. That's the beauty of knowledge. Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I provide facts to my arguments making them correct. That's the beauty of knowledge. Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course it's something I expected as I prove my arguments to be correct and others with error. That's the beauty of knowledge. Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course something I expected as my arguments are correct. That's the beauty of knowledge. Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course something I expected as I know that my arguments are correct. That's the beauty of knowledge. Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course something I expected as I know that my arguments are correct. Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course something I expected as I know that my arguments are correct. Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is almost what every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course something I expected as I know that my arguments are correct. Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough, because that is what practically every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Of course something I expected as I know that my arguments are correct. Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough. Because that is what practically every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough. Because that is what practically every non-Muslim here has been implying.
  • Just another way of saying: "I don't know how to respond to this." Nothing is ever pointless if you have evidence.

    "It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers."
    Oh, believe me, THAT sounds familiar. You obviously haven't been on this site too long enough for you to clearly see that is what practically every non-Muslim has been implying.
  • I'm not going to enlighten you mate, it's quite pointless and I hate these debates. I'm just saying that you're taking just a little bunch of Jews and show them as the mainstream opinion among Jews. It's like me taking the words of Osama Bin Laden and saying that all Muslims are genocidal murderers.
  • Alright "mate", explain to me why THESE Jews differ in opinion? And why is it according to Jews and the Torah that Jews were in exile by God? (That's of course assuming you had any knowledge on the topic). Go ahead, enlighten me.
  • Alright "Mate", explain to me why THESE Jews differ? And why is it according to Jews and the Torah that Jews were in exile by God? (That's of course assuming you had any knowledge on the topic). Go ahead, enlighten me.
  • Alright, explain to me why THESE Jews differ? And why is it according to Jews and the Torah that Jews were in exile by God? (That's of course assuming you had any knowledge on the topic). Go ahead, enlighten me.
  • Alright, explain to me why THESE Jews differ? And why is it according to Jews and the Torah that Jews were in exile by God? (That's of course assuming if you had any knowledge on the topic). Go ahead, enlighten me.
  • Alright, explain to me why THESE Jews differ? And why is it according to the Jews and Torah that Jews were in exile by God? (That's of course assuming if you had any knowledge on the topic). Go ahead, enlighten me.
  • Alright, explain to me why THESE Jews differ? And why is it that the Torah says that Jews were in exile by God? (That's of course assuming if you had any knowledge on the topic). Go ahead, enlighten me.
  • lol Mate, I think I care about your opinion just about as much as you care about mine, but you bring in the videos a representative of a group of about thirty people - out of millions of Jews - and say "this is what the Jews think"? Come on, you *could* do better, it's the ideological idiocy that's blinding you. By the by, the "Neturei Karta" aren't supported by *any* other Jews but themselves, they're an extremely small group and even the most ultra among the ultra-orthodox in Israel banish them. Soooo........ Keep trying, mate.
  • Oh, so they aren't the words of real Jews now? As if it really matters what you think. History says otherwise.
  • Hahaha, you post videos by Neturei Karta? Both of them? That is *all* you've got? You really have no clue, do you?
  • Really? Then the Jews opposing the EXISTENCE of Israel are deluded? Or is it simply because they follow what is written in the Torah? Here are actually interesting statements by JEWS who oppose to what you are saying. Interesting that THEY happen to think differently.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5JqRUJ3A3w&fe...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0dIDxV5QaM&fe...
  • Kal_El
    The conflict started long before Israel was returned to the Jews. Yes, Israel was Jewish land long before islam existed. And it was never called Palestine by anyone but the Romans, until terrorists like Yasser Arafat, and Abu Mazen decided to use it as a rallying cry for the Arabs who could not defeat Israel in 1948, 1967, and 1973.

    And long before Israel was reborn, muslims were beheading in the name of allah, taking slaves (look up the Berbers for that one), invading and occupying Spain, North Africa, Persia, Assyria, Constantinople and Phoenecia.

    The modern day "Palestinians" are really nothing but Jordanian, Lebanese, and Syrians who listened to the dumbass Arab leaders in 1948, who promised to drive the Jews into the sea, insha allah (or not). They choose to deprive themselves of a normal life by not abiding by the UN resolution which called for two states.

    As for my home being robbed, if I came in as a squatter, and the rightful owner comes in and kicks my ass, I got what I deserved. And there goes the whining about shortages of food, water, electricity, and medical aid, ignoring as usual the abundance of rockets, guns, suicide bomb vests. Why not put those tunnels to use bringing in food? Because muslims have ALWAYS behaved as they are doing in Gaza. It is written in the Hadith.
  • Kal El, you don't say you know more, you IMPLY you know more. You already prove that as you constantly bombard pathetic lies against the teachings of Islam. I don't hate someone who condemns crimes being done by Muslims. I condemn the morons that are spreading false ideas about the religion Islam. ( I have already mentioned previously that there's a difference between the word 'Islam' and 'Muslim')
    You claim that Muslims don't follow these peaceful verses in the Quran? So why hate the religion for it? And why admit to there being peaceful verses but only expose verses that you know will be easily misinterpreted and misunderstood? It's obvious from your ignorant views that you condemn Islam and Muslims simply altogether.

    Another thing you don't quite seem to want to grasp, is that there is a difference between the Quran and Hadiths. The Quran is taken more into consideration, as the Hadiths are just a collection of sayings of Prophet Mohammad recorded and compiled by his followers,i.e. Man. There are different types of Hadiths. There are weak ones and there are strong ones. A Muslim's main reference and guide is the Quran. And instead of just pinpointing your "favorite" verses in the Quran, why don't you do the same for the Torah and Bible? The Quran seems to be everyone's favorite these days.
    It's interesting how Hamas is the only "culprit". Of course when one looks at this from your points of view, then Hamas is responsible. So why does Hamas launch rockets to begin with? (Which by they way, are rockets so weak that it barely even could cause a destruction, let alone a real destruction; tell me how many people did it kill? Of course, excluding the MUSLIMS that were accidentally killed by it)

    Doesn't anyone ever go back in history and understand the conflict? The time of war didn't just start ticking when Muslims started attacking. These conflicts started YEARS before that. PALESTINE is OCCUPIED by the ISRAELI'S. It was the LAND that was taken from them. How can that NOT cause riots fro