Despite hundreds of dead protesters, Obama still wants unconditional talks with Iran

by Infidelesto on June 28, 2009 · Comments

Obama is reckless.  He has no moral compass.  No evil act is too great to stand in the way of his ideological ambitions.

I like my buddy Zip’s response: “Excuse me Mr. Ahmadinejad, I need to step over this puddle of blood to shake your hand…..”

WASHINGTON – The Obama administration will leave open the door for discussions with Iran over its nuclear ambitions even as demonstrators question the legitimacy of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s re-election, administration officials said Sunday.

Ahmadinejad has accused the West of stoking unrest, singling out Britain and the United States for alleged meddling. Last week, Iran expelled two British diplomats, and Britain responded in kind. Iran, which detained nine British Embassy employees Saturday before releasing four, has said it’s considering downgrading diplomatic ties with Britain.

…..Both Rice and David Axelrod, Obama’s top adviser, said Ahmadinejad doesn’t appear to have the final say over Iran’s foreign policy. Axelrod, dismissing Ahmadinejad’s harsh language against the U.S. and Obama as “bloviations,” said being open to talks with Iran is not an effort to reward the country. “We are looking to … sit down and talk to the Iranians and offer them two paths. And one brings them back into the community of nations, and the other has some very stark consequences,” Axelrod said.

Iran has been murdering people in the streets of Tehran and Obama while Obama’s response is “I don’t want to meddle”. But Israel? He’s glad to meddle with them anytime.

Here’s David Axelrod today on Meet the Press.  The short version is this: no condemnation, no consequences for the Iranian regime what happens in Iran is up to the Iranian people…shameful..

“Let’s be clear that we didn’t meddle in the election in Iran,” Axelrod said. “The dispute in Iran is between the leadership in Iran and their own people, and plainly, Mr. Ahmadinejad thinks that by fingering the United States, that he can create a political diversion. So I’m not going to entertain his bloviations that are politically motivated.”

He said Ahmadinejad’s accusations are meant for domestic consumption and to quell unrest after his re-election that his opponents call a fraud.

Axelrod stressed that the Obama administration’s willingness to hold diplomatic talks with the Iranian leadership was not to be regarded as a reward.

“We are not looking to reward Iran. We are looking to … sit down and talk to the Iranians and offer them two paths. And one brings them back into the community of nations, and the other has some very stark consequences,” Axelrod said.

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  • Marc
    DAVID LETTERMAN'S HATE, ETC. !

    David Letterman's hate is as old as some ancient Hebrew prophets.
    Speaking of anti-Semitism, it's Jerry Falwell and other fundy leaders who've gleefully predicted that in the future EVERY nation will be against Israel (an international first?) and that TWO-THIRDS of all Jews will be killed, right?
    Wrong! It's the ancient Hebrew prophet Zechariah who predicted all this in the 13th and 14th chapters of his book! The last prophet, Malachi, explains the reason for this future Holocaust that'll outdo even Hitler's by stating that "Judah hath dealt treacherously" and "the Lord will cut off the man that doeth this" and asks "Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother?"
    Haven't evangelicals generally been the best friends of Israel and persons perceived to be Jewish? Then please explain the recent filthy, hate-filled, back-stabbing tirades by David Letterman (and Sandra Bernhard and Kathy Griffin) against a leading evangelical named Sarah Palin, and explain why most Jewish leaders have seemingly condoned Palin's continuing "crucifixion"!
    While David, Sandra, and Kathy are tragically turning comedy into tragedy, they are also helping to speed up and fulfill the Final Holocaust a la Zechariah and Malachi, thus helping to make the Bible even more believable!
    (For even more stunning information, visit MSN and type in "Separation of Raunch and State," "Michael the Narc-Angel," and "Bible Verses Obama Avoids.")
  • JEWHAWK
    Marc,instead of a prophecy,I'd rather wish to count on BRUTE FORCE,through
    our F-15's and F-16's.They will ensure Israel survival and bring FEAR among our
    beastly enemies.
    "So let it be written.So let it be done" (Yul Brynner,aka the Pharaoh,during the "Ten Commandments",1956)
  • SirWilhelm
    Yes Jewhawk, it's better to go down fighting than give up based on an ancient prophecy that may or may not apply to the present time. And since it's recreation in 48, Israel is unbeaten in the field of combat.
  • JEWHAWK
    SirWilhelm,in 1948 Israelis were pretty naive about the possibility of making
    peace with its neighbors.European Jewish rationale didn't grasp how ruthless
    the muslims were.As soon as the mutilated bodies of Jews appeared,some of them
    realized what sort of enemy they were facing.Many didn't .

    Israel was obliged to LEARN by watching arab behavior.They learned that
    sweet talk,diplomacy and good manners means NOTHING in the Middle-East,
    therefore Israel slowly adopted its current policy of striking back when attacked,
    but inflicting a damage TWICE as brutal.It was a tough lesson.

    The world condemns Israel repeatedly because of our "disproportionate" use of force,
    while voices little or none criticism whatsoever when Israel is attacked though military
    means or by terrorism.
    When Israelis realized that no matter what ,they would be criticized anyway,they grew a very thick hide to IGNORE international hipocrisy.Israel became hated but feared.It worked.

    Now we've got a hostile administration working in Washington,one that makes we,Jews
    and non-Jews who loves Israel, very concerned about the muslim monstrosity called
    "palestinian state" that Obama wants to inflict upon us,while Iran is on the verge of
    building the ultimate weapon that in Ahmadinejad's own words will "wipe Israel off
    the map".

    And this because we're supposed to have a "powerful lobby" working for us in Washington
    and have the international media on our side,after all,we,Zionists,"control the world"...
    Yeah right.
    As I've said before,Israel is ALONE.Then again,we are used to it and we shall prevail.
  • Revo
    We can't just give up talking to iran, and today, Ahmadinejad stated he wanted talks with obama anyway. http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/07/04/iran....

    Oh, and we can have influence in Israel because of our relationship with Israel. We don't have that relationship with Iran obviously. Isn't that obvious. I don't understand why you would compare the two in any way even in the form of a analogy. Completely different circumstances.
  • Infidel_Tabatha
    Unbelievable. When Israel defended her civilians against Hamas terrorism, the world screamed abuse at her and labelled Israelis 'nazis'.

    Yet Iran shoots protesters in cold blood, in the street, and Obama still wants talks??? Obama and his administration still acknowledge the possibility that this barbaric regime might develop nuclear weapons??? With no American intervention???

    The reason Obama makes such unfair and frankly suicidal demands on Israel is because he knows he can push the Jewish state as Israeli leaders will try to be 'reasonable' and because they are desperate for peace.

    Whereas Obama can't and won't push Iran because he knows full well Iran doesn't give a damn and actively wants to attack Israel.

    Great post - thanks guys :)
  • JEWHAWK
    Tabatha:
    "The reason Obama makes such unfair and frankly suicidal demands on Israel is because he knows he can push the Jewish state as Israeli leaders will try to be 'reasonable' and because they are desperate for peace."

    As long as Washington pays THREE BILLION DOLLARS each year to
    Israel,the Americans will have leverage on every Israeli PM, and as we saw,they're using and abusing it.
    Should Israel say "No,thanks" to America's BRIBE,we,the Jewish People,
    will regain some respect in Washington.Today Israel is regarded as a proxy
    militia by the Democrats and some Republicans,like what Hezbollah and Hamas
    represent to Iran.

    It's a tough pill to swallow to see Benjamin Netanyahu saying " YES,BOSS" to
    an individual called "HUSSEIN".It's an HUMILIATING experience,I've got no doubt
    whatsoever.
    Israel does that because it NEEDS the technological EDGE that comes from
    the 1.2 Billion Dollars used to purchase American weaponry.

    That's how I see this awkward situation.
  • dill
    exactly, without americas help, they would be reduced to throwing oranges.

    what i don't understand is if one think being jewish is a race, then having a jewish state is de facto a racist state.

    it's like having a country that only allows members of the white race to live there.

    i don't see how racism can be defended on any level.
  • JEWHAWK
    Dill: "...they would be reduced to throwing oranges."

    American finacial and military help are extremely important,but Israel
    WON the SIX-DAY WAR of 1967 WITHOUT IT;
    Since then,its military industry THRIVED.Israel TODAY,no longer needs
    America's money and weapons as badly as before.

    Dill: "what i don't understand is if one think being jewish is a race..."

    We,Jews,are NOT a "race".We are ethnically diverse,because 586 B.C
    and 70 A.D genocides followed by expulsion en masse perpetrated by
    the Babylonians and Romans respectively.The first batch of expelled
    Jews went to populate the middle-eastern countries and even INDIA to
    MOROCCO and SPAIN.They are called "SEPHARADI".
    The second batch went to southern and central Europe.There they converted
    the nordic pagans to Judaism and married lots of them.They,including myself,
    are called ASHKENAZY.
    They don't look alike,therefore we are NOT a single ethnic group (aka "race");


    The Jews were EXPELLED from the arab states after 1948.Jewish property was
    STOLEN,therefore the arabs are not only RACISTS but also PLUNDERERS.

    Israel belong to the Jewish People ONLY.Even so,Israeli Government permits
    the practice of ANY religion in its territory.All Christians denominations are
    represented there with its churches for each of them.Muslims ROBBED the
    Temple Mount and built the infamous Al-Aqsa Mosque and STILL,they are tolerated
    in Israel.They shouldn't.
    If Israel was really a "racist" country,NOTHING of the above mentioned stuff
    could exist today,nor 20% of its whole population would be muslim;
    You,sir,are a LIAR.
  • SirWilhelm
    The term "race" is based on skin color and racism should be seen as discrimination based on race. Even the UN's definition talks of culture and ethnicity. There is no official definition of racism that includes religion. Yet, Muslims claim Islamaphobes are "racist", and it's well known how the Jews are often referred to and treated as a race. The bottom line seems to be actions speak louder than words. If you don't want to be seen as a racist, don't speak or act like one towards anyone. As far as the Jews go, I've traced them back to the first human civilization, the Summerian, all of humanity's civilizations trace back to them, and we are all descended from them, so when you discriminate against the Jews, you discriminate against yourself. Islam is a political organization passing itself off as a religion, and it's not racist to oppose a political oranization, especially one that uses terrorism to further it's agenda.
  • Infidel_Tabatha
    Hey JEWHAWK:)

    If you get a minute, check out this article and let me know what you think: I've posted it on my blog but it's originally from Sultan Knish:

    http://ajewwithaview.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/i...
  • JEWHAWK
    I liked the article.Very thoughtful.

    By the way,my concept of Zionism doesn't
    include the presence of ANY single muslim.

    Jews just CAN'T coexist with muslims.
  • Steven
    That isn't "Zionism". Zionism is about returning home, any further beliefs are in addition to and separate from Zionism.
  • JEWHAWK
    Of course Zionism is about returning home...A JEWISH ONE.There can't be
    Israel with so many HOSTILE muslims INSIDE Israel,as ISRAELI CITIZENS, living off ,partially,from money that worldwide Jewry send,thinking that it will help ONLY Jews.For this,I don't send a DIME anymore,in order to not see MY MONEY ending up into Hamas or Fatah's pockets and used to buy ammo and rockets to kill more Jews.

    I wish to see a STRONG and SAFE Israel,therefore MORE Jews have to live there and LESS muslims should be allowed to INFEST our land.The muslims who have Israeli citizenship are a bunch of FIFTH-COLUMNISTS,Israel-HATERS and also a hotbed for spies against Israel.Many
    muslims workers stabbed their bosses and co-workers and some drove BULLDOZERS into
    Jewish crowds and cars in order to crush them,before being riddled with bullets.

    I would "invite" each and everyone of them to LEAVE,without violence and with its due financial
    compensation,something diametrically opposed to what happened to the Jews expelled
    from muslim lands after 1948.

    Israel didn't do that in the 50's because Israel was WEAK and the Jews believed that the muslims
    one day would eventually accept Israel as a Jewish Nation.That did not happen.It never will.
  • dunno_moire
    Why does Axelrod say “Let’s be clear that we didn’t meddle in the election in Iran...”? How does that statement jibe with last week's claim that "...privately Obama advisers are crediting his Cairo speech for inspiring the protesters..."?
  • Roger H Frost
    By the tongue you will be identified, and the tongue will show all for what you really are.
  • SirWilhelm
    Did Stalin have any problem negotiating with Hitler? No, they reached a Mutual Non-Aggression Pact. Stalin couldn't believe Hitler would break the agreement until his panzers streamed across the borders. Obama is our Stalin, and we will pay the price for his actions. Only it will be nukes that cross our borders.
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