Honor killing in Canada: Three Muslim sisters murdered; parents and brother arrested

by Infidelesto on July 23, 2009 · Comments

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Toronto Star

Mohammed Shafi and his wife speak to reporters at their home in Montreal about the loss of their children. (July 3, 2009)

MONTREAL–Police are investigating the death of three sisters found in their car at the bottom of the Rideau Canal in Kingston three weeks ago as a possible “honour” killing.

Three suspects arrested Wednesday in Montreal on their way to the airport, possibly to flee the country, are believed to the sisters’ father, Mohammed Shafi, his wife, and his 18-year-old son, the La Presse newspaper reported.

Kingston police have scheduled a news conference for 2 p.m. where Police Chief Stephen Tanner will outline the details of a major change in focus of the investigation. Up to now, police have only gone so far as to call the deaths “suspicious.”

The Shafi sisters – Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17 and Geeti, 13 – died along with their aunt, Rona Amir Mohammed, on June 30. The family was returning from a trip to Niagara Falls and Toronto when they stopped for the night at a motel in Kingston.

The car was found that morning, submerged in the Rideau Canal, the bodies of the victims inside.

Officially, Kingston police would only say yesterday there had been a “change in the status” of the investigation based on “what’s happened in the last 24 hours.”

“It was a suspicious death and that has been changed,” said Kingston police spokesman Const. Mike Menor. “We’re not saying what that is.”

However, Kingston Police have been investigating for the last two weeks the allegation the deaths were an honour killing, police sources told the Kingston Whig Standard.

The family is Muslim and hails from Kabul, Afghanistan. They lived in Dubai for 15 years before arriving in Canada two years ago.

Kingston Police apparently received information that Rona Amir Mohammed is actually the first wife of Mohammed Shafi, that the couple had married in Kabul 30 years ago, and the marriage had been kept secret since their arrival in Canada.

The information came from Rona Amir Mohammed’s sister, Diba Masoomi, who lives in France. Masoomi also sent along a photo, claiming it is of the of the couple at their wedding. “We are convinced that this is a crime of honour,” Masoomi wrote in an email sent to the police chief’s office roughly two weeks ago.

Masoomi said her sister feared for her life. “For some time, my sister, as well as the Shafi couple’s oldest daughter, Zainab, had been receiving death threats for social, cultural and family reasons,” she wrote.

In the days following the deaths, Shafi, 57, told reporters the dthat [sic] Rona Amir Mohammed was his cousin, and she was always described as the children’s aunt. Tooba Mohammad Yhaya, 37, introduced herself as Shafi’s wife.

Family members speculated to reporters that one of the older sisters, likely Zainab, might have taken the car out to practise driving. They said she was rebellious and had taken the car in the past. However, the circumstances were always uncertain, particularly how the car made it all the way to the water.

The Shafis are not conservative Muslims, a Montreal relative of Yhaya, Said Fazel, told the Star.

The teenage girls dressed in a modern fashion, though reservedly, and did not even wear headscarves, said neighbour Joyce Gilbert, who lives below the family. She described them as “angels.”…

Masoomi told the Kingston newspaper that Rona Amir Mohammed could not have children, and so Shafi took a second wife, a practice not uncommon in Afghani culture. Masoomi said her sister remained with the family and raised the children, even when they moved to Dubai….

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jay

i haven't read one single intelligent post here. all i see is a complete lack of understanding, knowledge, education and at time literacy. you need to get your heads out of your own racist asses and grow up

fartsRus

man thats cruel if i did that i would literally kill myself

rashidAl

Please people don't judge other if you don't know what situation they are going trough. I know shafis family and the 18 year old boy (Hamid) was my classmate back in Dubai. My brother as a Muslim and an afghan I think it was the only and the right thing you did. May Allah Help you and forgive you ameen.

JEWHAWK

RashidAl, to be a despicable person you first must evolve. Your level of depravity is so high
that even Mount Everest pales in comparison.

Have you already stuffed your underware with explosives ?

Or your shoes ?

Or your suicide-vest ?

Or your car ?

Maybe you already prepared a landmine or other IED to kill more infidels ?

MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS.

ALL OF THEM.

hellosnackbar

rashidAl
We're talking about mass premeditated murder here you piece of shit!
Give us one good reason why Muslims should not be incarcerated in straight jackets and put on the Greenland ice cap?
And you can take Allah with you!

Beejj

Hello, HSB. This has nothing whatever to do with the usual business of this site, but I am deeply puzzled about something, so I turn to you in my hour of need, given you are the fount of knowledge.

I notice that many youths are wearing their trousers (pants, Americans) in a strange manner. I'll try to explain. The waist band of said garment is found far south of its usual location, about on the same level as the pubic area. Consequently, the crotch of the trousers is almost at knee level, while the trousers bottoms drag along the ground and even get trampled by the wearer's feet. In every instance, loud-coloured satin boxer shorts are in splendid and alarming evidence - it might be more accurate to say proudly displayed. Am I making sense? Do you follow my description? Have you seen this bizarre phenomenon? What are these youths trying to achieve? Is there a name for this way of wearing trousers? When did it begin? Who was its originator? Does one have to have an IQ below 40 to be a member of the club - a kind of Mensa for Morons? I spoke to one of these tragics, informing him that his trousers were in danger of falling to the floor, but he gave me a funny look and smiled sheepishly. I must add that in every case, the youth sports the most outlandish hair style - as if he came off second-best in a fight with a van de Graaff generator. I look forward to your reply.

hellosnackbar

The fashion of which you write is somewhat passe here.(I don't know its name?)
It was popular amongst the "yoof" about four years ago and is bizarre!
But then again boys will be boys.
Remember the "teddy boys"?knee length jackets(powder blue)with velvet roll collar,American string tie,and double tube hair style with rear duck's arse,12" trousers,lime green socks,and the inimitable wedge heel blue suede shoes,with 2"crepe soles.
We're getting on Beej!
My very beautiful assistant asked me what the the most recent best rockband is?
After some thought I answered REM.
There's an old fart called "venerable beads"(look up his blogspot)as he demolishes modern culture;he writes very well!
I've yet to find anything he says, with which I disagree!
I'm thinking of visiting Oz next April ;it would be interesting to meet;but I don't know how to contact you?
Perhaps John knows a way?
BTW I saw a cartoon in Private Eye in which a yoof is trying on a pair of jeans with the waist band about 6" above the knees and pronouncing it a perfect fit!

Christine_S

Beejj, I see that you addressed this to HSB, but I might be able to help you. Is this fashion "faux pas" new to Australia? It's quite common here. My sister is a teacher in Milwaukee and has a rack of belts in her classroom. While wearing pants in this manner is not allowed in school, many students still try to get away with it. She insists that anyone wearing their pants below their butts pull them up and secure them so they do not fall completely off. White cotton briefs seem to be the popular choice here and not satin boxers. It is important that these pants are several sizes too large and, as you pointed out, long enough to have fabric under the soles of the shoes; the longer the better. My nephew explained, when I objected to being seen in public with him and his exposed underwear, that it is just a form of expression (whatever that means) and much like any other fashion fad from previous decades. It looks ridiculous and obscene. Keeping a firm grip on your pants with both hands while dragging your feet along makes it impossible to concentrate on doing anything else. I will leave your other questions to be answered by HSB. I'm afraid I do not know the IQ requirements, if there is a name for this look, or exactly when it began...

SirWilhelm

The one good thing about this "fashion" is that it makes it difficult for the "gangstas" that invented this fad to get away after they've committed their crimes. Although it's amazing how well some of them have been seen to run while wearing these gettups I've seen them run from the police in live chases on Fox News..Another sad aspect is how our youth allows it's fashions to be defined by "gangstas" and their like who glorify criminal lifestyles which includes attitudes towards women as "hoes" that resembles Muslim attitudes. Coincidence? I'm not sure, since they certainly expect their "hoes" to dress differently than Muslims expect their women to. I believe what they're trying to express is that a certain minority was forced to wear similar clothes because they were forced to live in poverty in the recent past, but now they can dress that way to look "cool" with clothes designed to make them look favorable, while embarrassing the uptight majority, since they now have affluence based on drugs and other crimes. See if your nephew agrees with me? My guess is that it's called the Hip Hop look. And the requirements are emulation of criminals.

Beejj

Thank you, Christine, but you have not really answered my questions. Your nephew should be horse-whipped. To say that it is just like any other fashion is arrant nonsense. It's as ludicrous as if girls started wearing their knickers on their heads. Tell your nephew he can thank his lucky stars I don't teach him. I caused a stir during my time at Andover ..........!

SirWilhelm

Beej, aren't the girls emulating the boy's styles with hipphuggers that make it clear they're wearing thong underwear? And careful with trying to horse-whip one of those guys, they're probably carrying a gun, another reason for the baggyness of the clothes, to conceal what they're carrying.

Beejj

Thank you, Sir W, HSB and Christine. I found something called "How To Be A Gangsta In 5 Easy Steps" and also information about "hoes". Perhaps it's time to bring back conscription.

Christine_S

Thankfully, he has grown out of that phase and now wears his pants in the proper way. He is, however, still in need of a serious beating; he voted for Obama and is as liberal as the day is long!

Beejj

And may he do something to improve your atrophied brain - quickly.

michael101

The TSA needs to insure that they keep MUSLIMS who have sons or daughters on the "NO FLY" list so that they can intercept them when they try to flee the country. Why would they "Flee" unless they absolutely knew they were committing a CRIME. These people are crazy and are a threat to all of our societies.

JEWHAWK

"so that they can intercept them when they try to flee the country" (michael101)

I'd simply LOVE to see muslims leaving my country.

With an ONE-WAY ticket,of course.

Why?
Because they're as nice as the swine flu,as useful as a squared wheel,as lovely
as an ulcer.

Marie

What is it that we in the West do not understand or want to understand about Islam?

These types of murders with Christians being killed on a larger scale, occur almost daily in Muslim countries. Now it has infiltrated into Western countries. This had to be reported since it was committed in Canada. However, In Canada and the US these horrible incidents are very selectively reported in the news media. So much for human and religious rights and freedoms which is granted to Muslims when they come to Western countries.

These murderers are sons, brothers, fathers and husbands of Muslim women who are mothers, grandmothers, wives and sisters. As you will see in this case, these women raise and encourage their babies to become murderers and terrorists as children and young adults. The innate instincts of a mother is to protect her children at the cost of her own life if need be. However as we see here the mother is involved in the death of her children. She just followed the teachings of her religion which included lying to the police and pretending to mourn.

Lying is allowed in Islam, "lie to an enemy for war is deception" Mussnad Ahmad, 6.459

Muslims world-wide, strictly follow the teachings of the Quran: "Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them" Quran:2:191 "Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood" 9:123 "When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them" 9:5 "The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them" 9:30 "Muslims must not take the infidels as friends" 3:28, "Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an" 8:12, "Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels" 8:60, "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them" 47:4, "Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable" 3:85

The Qur'an certainly says that when the time is right, Muslims must use force to convert the unbelievers to Islam. A militarily dominant Islam, without doubt, precludes the peaceful co-existence with the unbelievers if the Muslims have to abide strictly by the unalterable terms of the Qur'an. Is this why we do not see "moderate" muslims coming out and speaking against this violence?

Can't you see?

hellosnackbar

An apostate muslim offers this explanation:
Imagine a football match inwhich the jihadis are the players on the field.
But the team has its supporters in the stands;these are the equivalent of so called moderates.
They support the ideology but play no active part.
And to fool the infidels they pretend abhorrence of their coreligionists.
Neutrals should pay attention to this man.
His explanation supports the evidence.

Gumbino

hey jewhawk, u fucker, u know what I honestly dont know, that why muslims let the jews live in palestine, in Iran in syria, because they are so filthy, that where ever they are they cause trouble, they are children killers and cowards who are fighting with their charitied F16 from America and europe the palestinians who have nothing but stones and catapults. the jews in infested palestine with their dirty long ponytails. one thing I should tell u all ( long live Hizbullah and Hamas) who will one day throw the jews in the mediteranean, so I say to u all jews learn swimming from now. asshoels

Kal_El

Gumbino,

The arabs tried to push the Jews into the sea, on numerous occasions. They
failed. Allah was not with them, apparently. Also, you spelled "assholes"
incorrectly. As for being child killers, it is not Israel who hides their
munitions among women and children, that would be hizbullah and hamas. Nice
try though.

JEWHAWK

"who will one day throw the jews in the mediteranean, so I say to u all jews learn swimming from now"

We shall see about that.

For the time being,the ones that are capable of throwing people in the Mediterranean are
the israelis.They don't throw the so-called "palestinians" into the sea because will harm the
marine ecosystem balance.It'd be like dumping TRASH or the SEWER's content into the
sea.Not good.Dead fish afloat...bad smell...

"u fucker"

Funny.I've been called exactly that by another muslim moron using another nickname...

Anyway,if you think of me that way,it's ok.I don't mind.
Next time I visit Hatzerim Air Force Base,in the Negev,where a whole squadron
of F-16's are stationed,I'll ask the crew to paint the word "FUCKER" in arabic and
English on a 454Kg bomb that with some luck,will KILL more Hamas thugs.

Thank you for the wonderful idea!!

oldwolves

"The Shafis are not conservative Muslims". No , they're moderates. The conservatives cut off the heads. See, now you understand the difference between conservative and moderate Muslims.

hellosnackbar

Thanks for that explanation oldwolves we now see the true distinction!

southwood

Here's another charming story from the pit of Allah: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5894521/...

nellie_rinsky

This is clearly a hateful site.
JEWHAWK, I am certain that our forefather Abraham would be ashamed of your words and blind judgement. I pray that you learn not to judge a people by the actions of few. If everyone were like you, the world would hate every good Jew for the evil being committed by the bad Jews in Israel.

JEWHAWK

Nellie:
My forefather wouldn' be ashamed of fighting a vicious enemy.People as yourself made the 9/11 possible.Naiveté and sheer stupidity helped Al Qaeda achieving their bloodthirsty plans.

There are,of course,"good" and "bad" Jews,not only in Israel but everywhere.I consider you a good one...Like the Jews who were taken to Auschwitz,Mauthausen and Treblinka,you couldn't believe that our enemies could be capable of murdering ALL of us.
I'm not good nor bad.I want to survive,therefore I won't stop at NOTHING in order to do so.If you deem that I'm a bad person,I'm sorry for being a disappointment,but I'd rather be the evil,bad,whatever kind of person you want,but ALIVE than a DEAD righteous,noble and stupid one.

If I were you,I wouldn't jump into a conclusion about my character without READING carefully about what Islam really is.As far as I'm concerned,you don't have a clue about what you're talking,unfortunately.

I do NOT agree that this is a "hateful site".It's a valuable source of information,which is a powerful weapon to protect us all from turn ourselves into someone like YOU.

NR

Just like there are "good" and "bad" jews, there are also "good" and "bad" muslims. Don't judge people based on their religion.

As for the story, it was more of a cultural thing then a religious thing. Muslim people in other counries would not do such a thing.

Also killing is not allowed in Islam, so these people have committed a sin. The fact that they killed their own children is just pathetic.

JEWHAWK

" Just like there are "good" and "bad" jews, there are also "good" and "bad" muslims "

The "bad" Jews commit bank robbery and drug trafficking in Israel. Jews despises them.

The "bad" muslims are TERRORISTS. But the muslims think they are HEROES.

Muslims commit atrocities in the name of Islam.

Jews don't rob banks in the name of Judaism. When they do it is due sheer greed .

________________________________________________________

" Also killing is not allowed in Islam "

Sir, YOU ARE A DAMN LIAR.

Solkhar

Jewish terrorists killing British Soldiers and innocent bystanders, Arab politicians living in Haifa, Jerusalem, Gaza and other towns for a "future Jewish State" are marked on the walls of Jewish Heroes.

Half the Palestinians whom are killed consider themselves to be nationalist fighters and religion has nothing to do with it, but the creation of a 'Jewish State' had everything to do with religion, so they say. We know of course it is simple political radicalism with a religious flavor.

Currently some Jews are willing to ethnically cleans and exterminate Arabs to expand that Jewish State to include the West Bank and Gaza. Their influence is increasing in the IDF and evidence shows that it may have to do with much of reason why the Gaza offensive was such a breach of international standards and morality. The argument that they are a fringe group does not stick, their influence is present in the results that happened and continue to happen and that is the constant argument that is thrown as Muslims globally.

As one person keeps on stating constantly, the rights to property and land earned by hard effort is a critical part of liberty, and thus is the tool of oppression by the right wing government and its radical sub-groups.

So, yes there are bad Jews and good Jews as there are Bad Muslims and Bad Jews, both have criminals, murderers and terrorists that claim to represent authority, morality and or God.

JH, your a damned liar as well or an ignorant fool, which one? Remember, you could not answer my demand for proof of your accussations, because they are only that. Oh, I forgot, your Santa Claus.

JEWHAWK

" your a damned liar "
" your a dickhead "

You've indeed posted under another nickname. Very few people would write YOUR A instead of
YOU ARE or YOU'RE. I do think you commit this basic mistake ON PURPOSE in order to
disguise yourself as a non-proficient English Speaker.

A former diplomat is obliged to master the English Language.

It's another PROOF that:

A) " Your " faking you English skills

or

B) " Your " a former diplomat.

Please, pick one of those alternatives and I'll give ya an A+ for honesty.

Please, STOP pretending to be who you aren't.

Please, STOP using other nicknames. It's no use.

KING DAVID HOTEL

Evoking the 1946 bombing made by the IRGUN, which told the British Military to evacuate
the building, which instead, choose to IGNORE the warning because " We don't take orders from the Jews " is a rather feeble way to compare the DAILY suicide-bombings perpetrated around the world in the name of Islam.
THE SCORE :

Would you like to inform all of us the SCORE ?

How many people Jewish "terrorists" killed in the last 100 years ?

How many people Muslim " freedom fighters" and " members of the resistence" killed in the same lenght of time ?

mazabdul

Don't you realize that Judaism itself is based on an ANCIENT and ANGRY set of beliefs from a pretty VENGEFUL god? Or do you just realize how awesome capitalizing RANDOM words for EMPHASIS is? As religions go, they all hold skewed morality and hateful passages. Like calling for the death of idolaters, forbidding homosexuality and in general depicting God as a grumpy dick we should constantly fear. That's in the big three, every last one, because religion is a few millennia old. They all are. Either everyone gets wise to the fact that it's all a pile of manure or people pick and choose religions and they all get legitimacy. So in societies where EVERYONE is believing in some form of organized religion or maybe one of those trendy new Eastern philosophies, it's illogical to deny someone their religion because you feel yours is less violent and angry. You can of course use THE LAW to monitor them, which is how countries generally work. Unless it's Nazi Germany in which case you can make all the assumptions you want and get the trains ready. I will of course remind you that 14 million jewish people mainly spread between Israel, Europe and North America can't make as many headlines as 1.3 billion Muslims spread out across every major continent. The majority are Muslims who are poor, uneducated and/or come from wartorn shitholes. Obviously Islam is the main problem here, but the impact it has on one's mind is the catalyst for actual violence. So we should try and practice education, not deportation. Obviously Islam is a hateful and violent religion, but the vast majority of Muslims are born into the faith. It's not a genetic trait that can't be removed, it's a state of mind or more likely a lack thereof. You can appeal to the logic of these individuals who are just trying to fit in to their social settings instead of vilifying a people. Many of them realize their faith may be wrong, but they hold their peace out of fear. And many Muslims convert out or just plain stop believing. Because if you carry on with the unnecessary name-calling and the sobby emotional 'solutions', the monolithic Muslim nation will recognize you as a loudmouthed bigot and ignore any cogent arguments you may be making. Unless of course you would rather just wage war on those who have a different invisible friend than you. If that's the case, fire away JEWHAWK

Solkhar

For Muslims to disparage Judaism's principles is to disparage Islam as well, it simply does not work, since the God of Judaism is the very same God of Islam.

The above comments about Judaism's God and making separate comments about Islam does not work. Abraham and Moses's Message was in fact the same one as that of Mohammed (peace be upon them all). Issa (Jesus Christ) was sent differently, according to Islam, as He was sent for a short-term by God and created, for a specific purpose and event.

History has clearly shown that the subject has always turned away from faith and returned to politics and the best way to control people is through what is most important to them, be it liberty or their faith. Thus power, conquest and religion is the cause of all the hate and destruction in this world and faith's importance makes it the prime tool.

JEWHAWK

" since the God of Judaism is the very same God of Islam "

This is not truthful. You are a FOOL.
You are a MUSLIM. This is the very worst thing I could call someone else.
It means that person is so despicable that any other dictionary's words
couldn't describe.

Solkhar / Shukri = ISLAMIC PESTILENCE

zulfiqaralikhan

Above here ,I have read some irresponsible and complete innosense remarks against Muslims and Islam..... First if you read the above news, they couple had been arrested on suspicion and they have not beeen charged till yet....... Even if they have done so why Islam and Muslims are being blamed.....there are good and bad people every where....... They tell me, are there not murderers, rapists and cruel people among Christians,Hindus,jews and other religion people of the world?? So same there are some cruel and bad people in Islam as well, this does not mean that Islam is all responsible for this....... Who is President Bush?? Who was Hitler?? who was Ariel Sharon?? Were they Muslims?? certainly not....... they were christians and jews.....and they were the worlds no, 1 terrorists, But i would never see any muslim saying that Christians are cruel or Terrorists...........So why if a Muslim do thing like this the whole Muslims and Islam are targetted......... I am also a muslim like millions other, i cannot even annoy another person and i can't even bear it , even if he is a jew ,christian or whatever......
We should think forward and not backward...... REligions are never bad, not Islam, not Christianity and even not jewish, this is the believers who make it bad or good............
President Bush, Osama Bin Ladin, Ariel Sharon, Hitler , Stalin are all killers and terrorists ....we should condemn them in disregard of their religions.

JEWHAWK

Sir zulfiqaralikhan :

The comparison between President Bush,Ariel Sharon with Stalin,Hitler and Bin Laden is PREPOSTEROUS.It shows a deep lack of historic knowledge to say the least.Having said that,I must say that coming from a muslim,that is,someone that belongs to a DEATH-LOVING SECT,that also praises TAQYAH or LYING THROUGH THE TEETH policy,is completely understandable.

But you're not talking to IGNORAMUSES,therefore your Taqyah-Spreading mission FAILED.

ISLAM=TERRORISM
ISLAM=CANCER
MOHAMAD = FALSE PROPHET,PEDOPHILE and MASS MURDERER

Storm_Rider

President Bush was the leader of a free nation, The United States of America, in just war against Mass-Murdering, War-Mongering, Totalitarian Islam.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5435311...

Don't confuse violence in self-defense with unporvoked violence in aggression against the life and liberty of a free people.

“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness….” Isaiah

Storm_Rider

"Though this be madness (Totalitarian Political/Legal, Mass-Murdering Isalm), yet there is method in't." Polonius

Hamlet - Act 2, scene 2

Bronwyn

Though we do not condemn an entire people on the basis of their racial identity, we are entitled and it is our duty to judge their deeds. The deeds of the Muslim people have been uniformly reprehensible in regard to anyone who does not share their subjection to Islam. Your promotion of pedophilia, your ritual mutilation of little children, the family murders required by despotic and dysfunctional males, the inexcusable jealousy of and hatred of the Jews, widescale and horrific violence, destruction of cultures superior to your own, enslavement of African peoples and the trafficking in women, are all a product of Islam. The commitment to the violent subjugation of everyone on earth makes you a hateful people. The Muslims who adhere to this evil system are deserving of the censure and contempt of the world because of their contemptible deeds. You could have done better. You made a choice.
Who are you to say who is a good Jew and a bad Jew? If it were not for the Jews in Israel, the Palesitinians, shunned by every Arab nation except Lebanon, which they ruined, would have starved to death. The Jordanians have just declared that the Palestinians are not citizens of Jordan any longer. Do you lecture them on being bad Jordanians or bad Muslims?WHat about you? Are you a good Muslim? Do you love people without discrimination and do you renounce trying to force them to submit to Islam?

hellosnackbar

Care to elaborate Nellie?
The actions of a few?when 10% polled in europe support the murdering madmen???
The bad Jews in Israel?Who are they?
I see nothing more than a brave,civilised,educated little nation defending itself against 200 million barbarians.
Something wrong about defending oneself against mindless morons who seek one's
destruction?
Get it straight Nellie(unless you find beauty in murder) Islam is cortical pathology.
Muslims are brainwashed morons whose religious duty is to hate the Kufr.
You seem naive Nellie!
Examine this site and read about Muslim misdeeds and unless your morality is warped by egregious Islamic dogma then make useful contributions(always of course
substantiated by application of the golden rule.)
An d learn to differentiate between hate and contempt.

Bronwyn

What ha s happened in Canada is an outrage. So was the murder of Aasiya Hassan in Buffalo NY. She was beheaded by her husband who had beaten her for years and she shamed him by filing for divorce. He responded by lopping off her head. He had been in America 25 years, was university educated and financially well-off. The national press said nothing until pressured into reporting it and even then they hushed it up as mere domestic violence. This was the incident that opened my eyes to the islamic infiltration in our country and the widespread collaboration of the press. Until Aasiya's murder, I held all the immediate responses of a liberal with regard to Islam. I thought it was a religion of peace, strange and repulsive, but peaceful essentially. I know now that it is gripping, life destroying evil that must be stopped. I also believe that we should not admit any practising Muslim into this country because Islam is incompatible in all its forms to our most fundalmental ideals of equality before the law, democratic representative government and liberty for all.

But I have observed really frightening trends in those of us who resist Islam and are determined to prevent the fall of our own nation. Two trends that could weaken us beyond the ability to fight. The first and most important trend is giving in to the same demonic hatred that inspires our adversaries. Islam certainly is not going to be stopped if we drink the same poisoned koolaid that the Muslims have swallowed for centuries. You can't keep drinking this and remain unchanged. We cannot condemn the Muslims for their hideous deeds and let into our heart the same venom that inspires those deeds. The thought is father to the act.

We should not inflict this kind of weakening garbage on each other. I appeal to you, Jew Hawk. You among others call Muslims pigs, garbage, swine . You call for their extermination as if they were so many roaches. Why this deliberate imitation of the Nazis? I have made mental excuses for this vomit long enough. It's got to stop. If we lose moral superiority to Islam we will truly have nothing with which to fight. IF we condemn this people as incapable of good and useful only for extermination, we deceive ourselves and become the same monsters that they have become. Remember that we too are capable of evil and should be vigilant against justifying our sins. Remember that a child is a creature of infinite capacity for good, if given half a chance. If we forget these things, we will commit atrocities like our enemies and end in defeat. Not on my watch and not while reasonable people can be persuaded to keep their baser passions in check.

Let's be committed to fighting honorably, implacable in our resistance to evil, but resolute that that same evil will not have any entrance to our hearts.

najiaahmadi

As a afghan girl, I am shocked that there still family likes them live in Canada. If you were that strict. Why did you come to Canada??
It is really sad that their own mom killed them, i don't know if she was a human being or what. Specially mothers are the one who are very close to their children. Mother, the one who give birth to them and killed them with her own hand. Shame on those kind of mothers.
If she could not see how they were living peacefully from all those wars in Aghanistan, then she shouldn't be called even a mother.
This family is leaving a shame on Afghan Community in Canada.

I am really upset and feel like facing them at the day of their court and spit on them.
If the parents were old fashion and old minded, what about the 18 yrs old boy, he was growing up outside of afghanistan and he know what's going on in Canada.

I know that society is different then afghanistan in Canada, but why bother to come to Canada.

Najia Ahmadi

It depends on each and every family who they want to live their lives. May parents are educated and open minded. They know that we are not living in Afghanistan any more, who ever we want to get marry, they we agree as long as we are happy.
I read the latest story about this family.
The older daughter 19 yrs old was missing for a couple of weeks and wanted to get marry to a guy from Pakistan, but her father did not accept, since they were selfish and only thinking about themselves and the stupid communtity who will put them down by saying, oh..........your daughter got married to some one from Pakistan. For them i guess it was a shame to take it any more, first she was missing and then she had an afair with some one.
But that is just wrong, killing them not only one, three of them. Probably he killed the other too, thinking they might do the same mistake as she did.
But what a looser, after killing them, they made such a twist story and fake crying to media that their kids are missing.

I would say to them...............all three of you loosers, you should have stand up and say to the police that we killed them and that is it.

There are still a lot of men in the afghan communtiy like that, when some of them defend themselves by calling the cops and getting divorce or seperation, the rest of the people look at them in a very bad way, by saying oh well, back then i Afghanistan, people would not do such a thing, but now they are canadian, they learn from other people.
But why not, they need to fight for their freedom, until when these stupid people will do it.
I am sure, next generation will bring a lot of changes to this community specially if they are living in western society.

Bronwyn

Thank you for writing. It is nice to hear from a Muslim girl who hates to see violence done to other girls who are just like them. I am so happy that you are willing to talk about your true feelings. Do you think that there are other Muslim gitrls who feel like you do? Why are you so brave that you are willing to speak out? I have daughters who are your age and they are always full of questions and ideas about everything. Do you question things also? I hope so. Keep it up. One day you will be a strong woman who is able to speak her mind and be true to the creativity and goodness in her heart. Keep writing and keep thinking. I hope that you write again here. You are a breath of fresh air.
Bron

SirWilhelm

If you as an Afghan Muslim girl, najiaahmadi, don't know, we as infidels sure don't. Yes, what about the 18 year old boy, am I wrong in thinking he has was just being a Muslim male, that sees women with less rights and more responsibility than a male? Did he, along with the father leave the mother little choice, because she could have easily suffered the same fate?

Why are you less strict than they are? Are you still Muslim, or did you convert to another faith? If you're still Muslim, how do you deal with the men in your family?
What does najiaahmadi mean? I hope you can answer my questions, it would be nice to talk to a Muslim, or ex-Muslim, whichever you are, that is different enough from most that post here, that we could communicate intelligently.

hellosnackbar

What I can't understand about honour killings is that despite the pressure of western morality ;Muslim stone age culture prevails!
It makes a strong case for the exclusion of all Muslims from western society on the basis of aquired psychopathy.
Jewhawk you might just be right.

SirWilhelm

"The Shafis are not conservative Muslims, a Montreal relative of Yhaya, Said Fazel, told the Star" A Muslim is a Muslim, you can't trust any of them not to take actions like this. At least they only hurt themselves most of the time, as in cases like this. But why do they come to the west if they want to live like that? At least these girls will get a chance to recieve justice in the Canadian courts, but Canada will have to bear the expense of trying their murderers and jailing them, I don't believe Canada has capital punishment these days. There must be a better way.

hellosnackbar

Well Sir W this SaidFazel sounds like a Muslim telling the truth(a world first???)

greggg57

Canada need to start executing violent criminals, just to rid the earth of them. Of course then burn the bodies so that the bodies don't fowl the earth.

JEWHAWK

Greggg57,I'd rather try to EXPELL them,first.They ought to come back to Saudi Arabia,Syria,Yemen,Afghanistan and other Condé Nast's "A-LIST APPROVED" tourist spots.

If it works just fine,the better.If not...

I was talking about the MUSLIMS,not only common criminals.The latter deserves exactly what you've said.

JEWHAWK

I honestly do not know WHY muslims are allowed to live in Canada,America,France,Germany,
Great Britain,Brazil,Argentina,Australia...

It's outlandish.Bizarre.Wrong.

Muslims can't coexist among us,infidels.We are their TARGETS.Their traditions
are rude,lewd and violent.Those things simply doesn't sit well with the image we
all have of the beautiful Canada and its marvellous landscapes.

Muslims INFESTED Canada and SPOILED it.It's a FILTHY STAIN that will not
come off easily.

Poor canadians.Their goodness and generosity will bring a heavy price to
be paid.Their freedom and way of life are in serious jeopardy.The Sharia Law
is being followed in Canada and Britain.

FartsRus

dude thats racist thats so mean that u should be hurting yoourself no matter what race u are in Gods eyes were all equal and welcome

freshtaj

For a person that comes across so lavish in the way you are expressing yourself, you are one very foolish human being. you claim that canada, US, and Great Britain are infested with muslims and theiy are spoinling this country, yet i see it as you and your kind of natured racist human beings infesting and creating prblems amongst humaity. as an immigrant to this country who the hell gave you the right to make such an obsurd comment. weahther you like it or not, you are just as much of immigrant as any other "muslim" person is. you are vile enough and uneducated enough to come to a conclusion that all muslims are the same based on individual actions. Shame on you! it's you and your type of "intellectuals" that has created as many problems in this world that we face today. So why don't you take a glance in the mirror and come to terms with who you are, cause if you can't accept your self, you most definitly are not able to accept any one else, and canada certainly does not need citizens who are shit disturbers :)! if we are to come to this type of conclusion that we must refer to all mankind that act on their own will and judge them by their religion, we would be yet another you. Is this the type of message you want to send out.

JEWHAWK

Muslims aren't ready to live in the Western countries;They never will.
Am I foolish?Why?
Because I don't buy your TAQYA?

I haven't made any "absurd" comment.Only the truth.
Muslims,on the other hand,EAT,DRINK AND BREATH LIES on a daily basis;
You,sir,belong to a whole race of LIARS,PEDOPHILES and TERRORISTS.

Islam is the biggest SHAME of the whole mankind.

lila

Who are you to say islam is a big shame?

Jews like you aren't ready to live in western countries either, your too intolerant.

JEWHAWK

Jews contributed to the PROGRESS of the Western Culture.

Muslims didn't.

Am I "intolerant" ?

To women's freedom ? To gay's rights ? To Democracy ?
Nope. I do support all above.

Am I intolerant to HONOR KILLINGS ? To BEHEADINGS of non-muslims ? To SUICIDE-BOMBINGS ?
YES.

Muslims are dreadful, noxious MICROBES that pollute our otherwise beautiful planet.

mazabdul

Talmud is just as intolerant. You're just a lazy practitioner of your religion. But then so am I, because I'm atheist. But you never figured that MUSLIM is a mindset and not an ethnicity. You're waging what Reza Aslan calls 'A cosmic war'. It's all good and evil for you. Terrorists listen to people like you more than they listen to their own leaders. If you ever get a podium, friend, as the Bush government used to say 'The terrorists win'. If I had a God i'd pray for you

JEWHAWK

The Talmud could be intolerant, but it doesn't issue FATWAS.
Rabbis do not wage nor condone terrorism.

Jews are NOT encouraged to be SUICIDE-BOMBERS.
Judaism doesn't reward terrorism with LUST, SODOMY and RAPE in the "paradise".
Judaism doesn't promise " 72 virgins " to the Jews who commit terrorism.

It seems that your CHEAP, UTTERLY GROUNDLESS comparison between the Talmud
to the hateful and bloodthirsty Qur'anus is simply LAUGHABLE.

Jews weren't born to blow themselves up. They were born to LEAD...to be the BEST,
to be RESPECTED not FEARED.
Muslims love DEATH.
Jews love LIFE.

This remark isn't mine, but from several muslims who repeatedly said that.

hellosnackbar

Shit disturbers?? Tell me Freshtaj would honour killings,burkhas,threatening
people who criticise Islam,drug dealing,demanding of unearned privileges,living in ghettoes,non assimilation with the majority,arrogance ,
rape ,belief of superiority,support of terrorism,parasitism of social services,
educational expenses be classified as "shit disturbing"?
I can sympathise with any individual who comes to the west in search of a better life but I can't stand refugees who want to import the habits of the Islamic hellholes from whence they came.
To be a successful immigrant one must discard counter productive baggage;
and dumping your idiotic religion would be a good start.
To quote Mustafa Kemal Attaturk "Islam is a necklace of skulls about the necks of the believers".
Free men are welcome but slaves to a 7th century death cult are not.
If this is unnaceptable then in all conscience you should f%$* off whence you came and leave us in peace,

FartsRus

i agree that person is so mean to every f#$kin culture how rude can that be
how bout if he was those parents and someone said that how would they feel
its common sense you fuckin douche bag

Beejj

Nice, HSB. This guy needs to realise that the presence of a single Muslim in a civilised country is an infestation.

Honor killing in Canada: Three Muslim sisters murdered; parents and brother arrested

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