Why and How Islam justifies Honor Killings

by Infidelesto on July 25, 2009 · Comments

Many Muslims deny that honor killings have anything to o with ISlam and that’s it’s just a “cultural” thing.  They either know it’s true and are hiding the facts, or are incaable of fathoming their religion sanctioning such horrible acts.  The link of Islam to honor killings couldn’t be more clear.  We’ve been covering the numerous stories from all over the world where family members are killed by their own to “preserve the family honor”.  It’s widely known that the perpetrators of these crimes often get off with minimal punishment and sometimes don’t get charged in the first place.  See here for all the IAC reports on honor killings.

Robert from Jihadwatch writes:

“While the practice is not confined to a specific cultural group and has no links to Islam, there is ‘no question,’ Mr. Oppal said, the numbers of honour killings are higher in certain communities.”

No links to Islam? Really?

Consider these:

A manual of Islamic law certified by Al-Azhar as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy says that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2).

In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law. In accord with this, in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”

And related to the practice is this:

“The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used not to kill the children, so thou shouldst not kill them unless you could know what Khadir had known about the child he killed, or you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to he a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside.” – Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4457

Khadir, or Khidr, figures in sura 18 of the Qur’an. He is traveling with Moses, and:

“Then they proceeded: until, when they met a young man, he [Khadir] slew him. Moses said: “Hast thou slain an innocent person who had slain none? Truly a foul (unheard of) thing hast thou done!” Khadir replies: “As for the youth, his parents were people of Faith, and we feared that he would grieve them by obstinate rebellion and ingratitude (to Allah and man). So we desired that their Lord would give them in exchange (a son) better in purity (of conduct) and closer in affection….” (18:74, 18:80-81).

Why does it matter that the practice of honor killing has Islamic sanction? Because if the roots of honor killing are never discussed and always ignored, the practice will never stop. Until the Islamic roots of the practice are discussed openly and human rights groups begin calling for reform, honor killings will continue in the Islamic world — and in Muslim communities in the West.

And the idea that this is a racial issue or racial term is absurd. Islam is not a race, and the victims of honor killing are Muslim women. It is racist now to want to protect Muslim women from being murdered?

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  • Really hard to read. And more to consider the implications it has on reality. I don't think this favours trust within the family. I should consider including this as a subject in "the Saudi beauty contest"...
  • Tonto
    The bottom line is: You can twist and justify almost anything with the correct quotation with the "right" spin. It's all bullshit. Either you are a human being that acts with some semblance of civility, or you're an asshat that acts like an idiot. Looking at the numbers, the winners of the crown for having the most idiotic asshats in the world has GOT to go to the muslims. They cheat though. They have the koran to use as a guide. (Now there is a "Study in Dumbass" for ya!)
  • How can you justify a Muslim child and friends behead man while praising Allah?

    Watch video, it is real and gruesome!
    http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/...
  • Gaye
    I also cannot believe that we are even letting them into our countries. They are to keep silent in the countries of their adoption until their numbers become large enough to cause trouble and become a force..
    Every one knows the aims of the Mafia, thus if an operation is carried out by only a dozen of them does this mean that the rest of the Mafia are not in agreement with the operation.
    Would it not be more so when the gang involved had a god who orders them to slaughter anyone who wont join their gang .
    This is a religion where there is no out rage from the violence that they do nor do their clerics or imams try to stop them, there seems to be no punnishment for killing.
    It is true that they are not allowed to kill the innocent but they do not tell us that non Muslims are not counted as the innocent, and there has been over 14000 terrorist attacks since sep 11th, not counting pirate attacks..
  • abushujaah
    http://bit.ly/16gjWd Umdat Al Salik or Reliance of a Traveller (english), I am not seeing the quote at all. Have you made up this quote?
  • dunno_moire
    With a little work Abushujaah you would have found it. I quote the following from the URL you cite (Umdat Al Salik/Reliance of a Traveler):
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    9.1.1 Retaliation is obligatory for intentional killing etc:
    Retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.

    9.1.2 Those not subject to retaliation:
    ...4. A father or mother (or their parents) for killing their children, or the childrens children.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    I too am concerned about fabricated quotations. This is not such a case.
  • dunno_moire
    '9.1.1 Retaliation is obligatory for intentional killing' ... 9.1.1 >> 9/11 ... strange coincidence. I wonder - if the numbering utilized on that site is the same as the source book's?
  • SirWilhelm
    Man, that crap is hard to read. I don't know how they can compare their writing with the Bible and claim it is better in any way. I'm not a Christian or a Jew but I've read a lot of the Bible and it makes more sense than this jiberish, and there's a lot of problems with the Bible.
  • dunno_moire
    Sir W. - I too find (most translations of) the Quran difficult to read. Though I doubt that you have interest, below is a link with a more readable translation:

    http://www.submission.org/Q-T.html

    NOTE - I respect Muslims and believe I worship much the same God but DO NOT agree with all Muslim theology/its depictions of said God. I provide the link strictly as a reference site wherein is a more readable Quran.
  • hellosnackbar
    The irony is that when one reads a Quran translation and uses it to denigrate Muslims they tell you that it should be read in the original ancient Arabic(which even Arabs don't understand)
    This means that virtually nobody is able to read it as originally written.
    Islam is guided by lunatics who learn the useless tome by heart(what the turgid bilge means is irrelevant even to them).
    Islam is the death cult of lies and excuses; it's strictly for psychopaths with a mission.
  • dunno_moire
    To make it all the more confusing you have the contradictory verses and the "abrogation" principle (verses written later superseding earlier verses) .
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