IDF Intel: By the end of 2009, Iran will be capable of building a nuclear bomb

That's OK. We are working on putting into mass production a huge ass bunker buster bomb that is 10 times more powerful than any produced up to now. Israel is probably already working on, or has already, stolen the technology and/or a couple prototypes. I think the smartest thing the Iranian pukes can do is bend over forward as far as they can and kiss their cans goodbye....they will get bombed back to the Stone Age. No doubt in my mind about that.

"Israel...stolen the technology (of the bunker buster bomb)"

If Israel didn't steal it,it will.

That's the TRUE nature of U.S./Israel relationship...

That's why,Jonathan Jay Pollard was arrested and sentenced to LIFE IN PRISON,for
stealing satellite pictures of the merry,friendly Israeli neighbors in 1980's on Israel's
behalf.

America wants an Israel that BEGS for help.

The last thing America is willing to see is an INDEPENDENT Israel.

America constantly VETO the sale of several weapons systems to Israel,
including nuclear submarines,forcing Israel to purchase FIVE of them
from Germany,all Diesel-powered.

The F-22 Raptor,the bunker-buster bombs's sale ALSO were vetoed by Washington

In order to get this stuff,Israel needs to be a "good boy",must OBEY
its master,saying "Yes,boss"...or else,Uncle Sam will cut the little kike's
allowance.

Yep.That's our greatest ALLY.Alas,not the greatest.The only one.
One day,this disturbing relationship will be over.It will be OUR
4th of July.

It's also why the Rosenburgs were executed and Israel has nukes.....spying. But, if you want mayonaise, you gotta break some eggs. They did what they had to do.....on BOTH sides of that question. Remember, even in the US, not everybody likes Jews or Israel.

Dear Tonto,the despicable bolshevik couple Julius & Ethel Rosemberg were backstabbing their country on STALIN's behalf...they were TRAITORS .Period.They also were probably anti-zionists,too (As a great part of the Leftist Jews in America are).To many of them,Israel is an enemy country.

Israel allegedly(I hope it's true) has its nukes today thanks to FRANCE,who built Dimona Nuclear Reactor,in the late 1950's and provided technology.America in the 1950's and 1960's until Lyndon Johnson became president,was a HOSTILE country toward Israel,because JFK ordered the U2 spying planes to "assess" Israel Nuclear's progress.Several pictures were taken,at the same time of the Cuban Missile Crisis.
South Africa also helped Israel in many ways;It seems that both countries tested a nuclear weapon together in 1979.

"Remember, even in the US, not everybody likes Jews or Israel."

Oh,boy...I'm fully aware of that.Even Jews hate another Jews.Jews hating Israel as the infamous NOAM CHOMSKY and NORMAN FINKELSTEIN.Sometimes I hate what the Israeli Governments does,for instance,withdrawing its troops from Lebanon and Gaza because Washington told them to do so,bringing DEATH to countless israelis.

I detest SEVERAL American Jews...95% of them are BOLSHEVIKS self-proclaimed " DEMOCRATS",as BARNEY FRANK among many others...

To hate someone isn't wrong,provided you've got a plausible explanation to do so.
When Americans say they hate Jews and Israel is mainly " because JESUS was murdered by the kikes",therefore everything Jewish should be despised.I understand this,but nothing will change.Actually I don't even care.
Is also interesting to remember that the same people who say they hate Israel also regard their OWN COUNTRY very poorly.

Good Ole Boy Jimmy Carter let the cat out of the bag on Natioinal TV when he told the world that Israel had "at least" 150 nuke weapons....so yeah, they definitely have them. I think he also made a point to spread that info in the arab M/E countries.
Remember that anger and hate are manifest indicators of FEAR. I like to do my killing, or ass whippin' with a cold, clear outlook. That's why I always wait until I'm done being angry....kind of like shooting a deer or coyote.

The US central and East European ABM sites are designed entirely to deal with the threat of Iranian missiles. However they likely cannot protect from an orbiting EMP which is almost certainly what Iran plans, and makes sense of the years of threats coming from Tehran. While Israel lacks operational and logistical capability to effectivly end Iran's nuclear weapons program they can take care of Hizbolah while the US deals with Iran should they choose to do so. However, the cost to the world of an Israeli strike on Iran, meaning Iran's freezing of any oil moving up or down the gulf, would be unacceptable to all. Israel would face some serious isolation should they elect to try Iran without at least US guarantees of keeping shipping lanes open near Iran's coast.

EMP (nuclear bomb generated electro-magnetic pulse and it's associated damage to all things electronic) - another form of decapitation our country could experience.

What is worse...that they have a nuclear weapon to use against Israel or that they have the potential to use such against the US? It isn't hysteria to conceive terrorist use against an American target once their bomb is developed.

One could argue that The United States represents the 'higher value' target. Such an attack would devastate us psychologically and if well placed could gut our economic or governmental system. I'm no expert in terrorist thinking but who's to say extremists don't want the decapitation of the United States in order to leave Israel without our financial or military support? Israel is home to several cities the Muslims consider holy. The United States is chock full of cities extremist Muslims might consider unholy. I don't buy that Israel has the most to fear - I think it more likely extremist Muslims would want to isolate Israel and choke her to death, slowly gaining control of the people, the country and those holy cities. Besides, using nuclear weapons on Israel would kill so many Muslims and might create a fallout issue so large that even the Iranians have to contend with it.

Surely this has crossed some American strategist's mind? Why aren't we pressing more convincingly against the possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of a country that clearly supports and supplies terrorism against "The West"? It is foolish to assume that Iran would only target Israel and therefore it is Israel's problem to resolve. Extremist Muslims (and Muslim terrorist groups) are well documented for hating "The West" for many reasons - acceptance and tolerance of much they find unholy (secularism, paganism, homosexuality, etc.), the presence of Jews therein, the perception that Jews run "The West", etc., etc. Why is the administration and the media apparently obsessed with declaring Israel as the focus of the threat and disregarding the potential threat to this country?

Only another "superpower" could really threaten the US with nukes. The Soviets indulged in the M.A.D. policy (Mutually Assured Destruction) only because they also had an arsenal of several hundreds/thousand ICBM's with nuclear warheads. The US couldn't intercept them all. But Iran will take a long long time to accumulate more than a few, and a) The US would surely know before the fact, with their advanced satellite technology and other intel sources, that a strike was imminent, and b) could likely intercept one or a few missiles long before it got near it's borders.

I doubt Iran would target the US or Israel preemptively in the early stages of it's nuclear power... They surely know they'd likely not land a punch and be knocked out minutes later. I still believe they'd use it as a threat to prevent retaliatory action against them by the US and Israel when they took over neighbouring sunni provinces, banking on the "wests" reluctance to get involved lest they might just "provoke" Irans potential nuclear capability, most likely on defenseless neighbours.

When I said "so I guess it's up to Israel now... " I simply meant Obama seems too reluctant to go there, and Israel might be the only power with the potential, and the most immediate vested interest, in stopping Iran from achieving it's goal. I for one am not obsessed with lumbering Israel with the role. I'm simply suggesting they may be the only ones with the will and the balls to "take it to" Iran.

I respectfully disagree that "only another 'superpower' could really threaten the US with nukes". It doesn't take Hollywood to devise a workable plot - in fact they have done so. Wasn't it in the movie "Next" that a nuclear device in a shipping container enters an American port undetected? Not only do our civil liberties and open borders make it easy for the terrorists, we've got Hollywood writing scripts for them. Iran would only have to use one well placed nuke to decapitate either our economy or our government - the degree of vulnerability if we're not watching out for the possibility is scary. That was what happened in 9/11 it appears - we didn't suspect so we were vulnerable. I think some would argue that this administration does not appear to be taking Iran as a serious threat to our nation's security. All the media discussion and the Washington sound bites are about the threat Iran's nuclear weapons pose to Israel. I don't hear anyone discussing the threat they might pose to the US.

BTW - I am not responding to you or anyone else's comments on this blog concerning this issue. I am pointing out the obvious - Iranian nuclear weapons will not only pose a threat to Israel.

Fair points you make dno, but I think you also addressed them when you said "the degree of vulnerability if we're not watching out for the possibility is scary". When we're talking about nukes, I think the governments of all developed countries are "watching out" for them. Remember that it's not exactly easy to get your hands on the specific technology and materials required to assemble a nuclear device. These are only really available from a handful of places around the world and I'm pretty sure there are many many eyes on the likes of Nth Korea. I believe it's actually a lot easier that way than watching your own borders.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's extremely unlikely. And hardly necessary at that. Simply blowing up civilians in schools and shopping centres with "standard" bombs creates quite sufficient fear and chaos.

I'd be far more concerned if I were a neighbouring, and relatively undeveloped country as I alluded to in my first post.

"Unreal... Just what the world needs. A state run by death cultists who look forward to "armageddon" with access to apocalyptic weaponry. Obama doesn't seem too concerned, so I guess it's up to Israel now..."

If I didn't knew better, I'd think you were taking about America during the bush regime.

"Destroying Iranian power stations,water facilities,airports,hospitals,
roads,bridges,ports,oil refineries,police stations,fire departments,
schools,universities,dams,factories could inflict much more devastation
than hitting Ahmadinejad's "G-SPOT".

You're a complete lunatic.

"You're a complete lunatic."

Am I a LUNATIC?

Why?

Because I don't wanna see Israel destroyed?


"...America during the bush regime."

America was WINNING the War on Terror.Your pal,president HUSSEIN,
is willing to sacrifice America itself in order to look good before the Saudi
despots's eyes.

Who's the "lunatic"?

Are you kidding when you say "...I'd think you were taking (sic) about America during the bush (sic) regime"?

This is what is going wrong with this country - the left flipped out and accused the right of swinging too far away from center so now we have a new regime that's swinging hard to the left in an apparent attempt to correct perceived imbalance. The right swung hard the last eight years for sure...we could have done without some of the tax cuts to the rich and been more restrained on the curtailing of civil liberties among other things. However, there was the 9/11 attack and our government was working to prevent another. One could argue that 9/11 was made more possible through an overly permissive civil liberties climate and outrageously porous border - things that the left has long championed. We don't hear that position much do we?

The left is screaming about the Bush administration's lax regulatory environment that 'created' the present financial crisis. How conveniently the left forgets Clinton administration's hand in dismantling regulation (dot com preamble) and Congress' hand in pushing for lax standards on mortgages. Both parties are screwed up...we don't appear to have a representative democracy what with our politicians seeming to only represent themselves or narrow interests in their decision making process.

Our two party system really only works when it is about compromise and respect, balance and tension. If it's going to lead to such polarization I suggest we scrap it. As for myself I stay somewhere near the center on most issues and try to be reasonable.

Oh right, because Bush was always threatening to wipe countries off the map.
Get your head out of your ass, Bush exercised restraint after 9/11 when many
Americans were of the mentality to "nuke them until they glow".

As for taking out Iran's infrastructure, while it is a bit extreme, show me
an islamic regime that understands anything but brute force, and maybe my
opinion will be swayed...

Iran left Israel with no other alternatives.

In my opinion,Israel isn't obliged to strike the iranian nuclear
facilities directly.

Destroying Iranian power stations,water facilities,airports,hospitals,
roads,bridges,ports,oil refineries,police stations,fire departments,
schools,universities,dams,factories could inflict much more devastation
than hitting Ahmadinejad's "G-SPOT".

Without its infrastructure,its nuclear reactor and even an already built
nuclear bomb would be useless,for it needs huge number of people and
resources to make it operational.

At the end of the day,Iranian People will pay an unimaginable,heavy price
for the Ayatollah's Regime lunacy.

Unreal... Just what the world needs. A state run by death cultists who look forward to "armageddon" with access to apocalyptic weaponry. Obama doesn't seem too concerned, so I guess it's up to Israel now...

It's disturbing to think that the basegi and their henchmen comprise such a small percentage of the population in Iran, yet exercise their will courtesy of a disproportionate level of force at their disposal. How long after they attain nuclear weaponry until they waltz into Bahrain and other sunni neighbours, claiming them as their territory much like Saddam did in Kuwait? Except with nukes, what will anyone do to stop them?

Despite repeated assurances to to all the relevant world governing bodies that Iran doesn't seek nuclear weapons, Ahmadinejad slipped up recently at a missile test firing and claimed that that somehow validated their nuclear program! And the Hezbollah now use as their symbol a mushroom cloud! I think it's pretty clear to anyone who cares to see, which direction Iran is heading in. They need to be stopped NOW! The rest of the world can't make the same mistake it did with Nth Korea and find themselves in the untenable position of hoping to dictate terms to a rogue nuclear state.