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Why is it that it seems that hating muslims is acceptable, but hating jews is a crime? Make no mistake, I'm neither jew nor muslim, but it's kind of curious. Gods choosen race is above the law? I believe it is, as long as the myth of the holocaust exists...

You are free to deny the Holocaust. As a friend once pointed out to me, not all crimes are codified. There is no court in the US into which I could haul you for your vile denial of the systematic slaughter of 6 million men women and children, dragged from there homes, the butt of pseudo scientific experiments, whose skin was used for lamp shades and book covers, mercilessly slaughtered. Nor would I uphold a law forbidding your lies.. The day American society cannot handle the likes of you is a sad. day. The day that American people do not ostracize you, cut you socially, scorn you vehemently and give you the treatment you deserve for your foul denials, is the day we deserve the vengeance of Heaven. If you dare to act on your hateful doctrines, we will handle you. God help us if we do not.
Speaking of Heaven, I would be happy to share the scriptures with you that assure Israel of an everlasting presence on the earth. The day she returns to her own land (1948) she is never to be uprooted again. Yes, it is not going to be a party and those same scriptures predict great testing and unprecedented suffering.. They also assure Israel of final victory. As an interesting side note, those nations which lift their hands against Israel are assured of complete destruction. Is Israel different than all the other nations? Yes. The Lord said that in the Jews all the nations of the earth would be blessed. As a Christian I know this to be true because Jesus is of the house and lineage of David, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the King of the Jews and my Savior.Salvation is from the Jews. YHWH is the God of the Jews and of all the earth.

I hope you find this helpful. Yes, the Jews are an extraordinary people. Above the law? No. No one is.They have suffered extraordinarily. But the nations which seek to destroy them will be completely pulverized.FYI.

" the myth of the holocaust "

Well, if it is a "myth", could you help me to find my relatives in Romania? They are ALL missing since 1945...WHY and HOW that " mysterious" absence took place ?


" I'm neither jew nor muslim "

You're a FILTHY, STUPID MUSLIM, thus I won't buy your laughable deception.

An eight year-old child could lie better than you.

You're off the mark. It's not hatred of Muslims. It's hatred of the
ideology that is Islam. Not the purely religious aspects of Islam, but the
political and militant form that so many Muslims adhere to.

As far as I'm concerned, I do hate ALL of them, including children, elderly, men and women.

I will not apologize for telling the truth, which is that ALL OF THEM did, does or will do harm, mutilate and kill
Jews by waging JIHAD against us, therefore I regard them as ENEMIES that should be dealt with accordingly.

They are ALL Islamic FOOTSOLDIERS, "SHAHIDS".

To HELL with them all.

To HELL with the politically correct talk.

I am at WAR, godamit.

I do HATE muslims. They are plotting to impose their
death - worshipping ideology on everyone else.

Islam is more like a LOCUST PLAGUE than anything else.

Am I an "islamophobe" ?

You betcha.

This means that I am a "racist" ?

Nope.I don't hate Hindus, Chinese, Germans, British and even Argentines.
I don't hate Hare Krishnas, Catholics, Evangelics, Atheists, Satanists,
Wiccans nor vegetarians.

I hate ONLY Muslims.

u are a bastard if u hate muslims simply because they are muslims

I would not be to disturbed, every blog has its anal-retentive nutjobs whom are not bigots, because that requires some semblance of intelligence.

By the flag, name and language, we can assume this one is just a radical agenda-based kabbutzy type teenager, you know - the one's that throw stones at palestinian women until eventually there is a demonstration and then call their cousin in the local police or military to come on mass and arrest those that show up.

But rest asured, he is a minority within a minority, I have found that even though there is all this hostility and media, the majority of the people of Israel just want peace and freindship with the Palestinians and all Muslims and would be very happy for a peaceful relationship, trade and future collaboration with a Palestinian State AND on equal terms.

We can only hope that lunatics and brainless radicals like this one simply dry up and decay like the turd he is.

One trick to identifying such crap is how they give no logic in their arguments and try and find the most insulting language possible to somehow justify that lack of substance. You know, they call us Muslims unclean but they cannot face up to the reality of 5xwudhu.

" the one's that throw stones at palestinian women "

Throwing stones is a muslim specialty. Muslim women are very used to it.


"freindship with the Palestinians and all Muslims and would be very happy for a peaceful relationship, trade and future collaboration with a Palestinian State AND on equal terms."

Will all of that be achieved under Hamas' watch ?
REALLY ?


" lunatics and brainless radicals like this one "

At least I'm not one of your suicide-bomber brothers. Unlike your brothers,
I never beheaded anyone.
You belong to a culture who WORSHIPS lunacy and brainless radicalism.


"...simply dry up and decay like the turd he is."

That's the most accurate description of your brain.Thank you for your help.


" identifying such crap is how they give no logic in their arguments "

Is there ANY logic to support Islam ?
Are your arguments truthful ?

Nope.

You're just another FILTHY MUSLIM LIAR.

Ticks, fleas, cockroaches and flies are SUPERIOR beings compared
to muslims.

The only "bastard" in here is you. Your mother doesn't have any idea about WHO knocked her up.
She could say at least four men's names that could be your father.


Muslims are a DISGRACE for this planet. Dumb, backward, aggressive and filthy.That's what muslims really are.

Dear Mr.Bastard,

Now, it is confirmed that you are not only a bastard, but also a son of a
bastard . And your mother is such a whore that she cannot even tell who is
actually your father. So stop calling father the man whom u call your
father. He is not your father. You are simply son of a whore, and thus a
bastard who has no right to comment on Muslims who the morally upright
people. U bastard, shut up your mouth and do not ever try to post your
comments about Muslims. You bastard very well know how Muslims treat a
bastard like you.

" Muslims who the morally upright people "

Is that so ?
Really ?

Nope.Muslims are the most SORDID people on Earth.


" You bastard very well know how Muslims treat a
bastard like you. "

Daniel Pearl knew.

And you know how Israelis treat their enemies, don't you?

Your mother had GONORRHEA when she punished the world by giving birth
to the UGLIEST child ever born.The nurses were appalled when they saw you.
Your REAL father is a NIGERIAN SAILOR.

Mr.Bastard,

I am surprised to know that instead of trying to know who your "real" father is, u are still posting ugly comments about Islam and Muslims. However, what else can be expected of a 100 percent bastard like u?

Ahh,how about a dumb muslim using an INFIDEL INVENTION, the mighty internet !

I wonder if without us, khaffirs, muslims would have cars, electricity, airplanes, penicilin,
telephone, cell phones...

Would muslims be capable of sending a man to the MOON and bring him back, like
the infidel Americans did in 1969 ?

Would muslims be capable of inventing vaccines such as the Jew Albert Sabin did?

Nope.

Muslims are like GERMS, MICROBES, FILTH.
They are not part of the solution, but the problem itself.

Muslims are USELESS.Period.

It is true that the genius infidels have made inventions, but this fact does not give the bastards like you among infidels the right to say BS about the followers of the great religion of Islam.

" It is true that the genius infidels have made inventions, but this fact does not give the bastards like you among infidels the right to say BS about the followers of the great religion of Islam. "

Au contraire,my primitive friend. It does.
Actually "BS" is what the WHOLE Qur'anus and Hadiths are worth.
Islam is NOT a "great religion". I do not buy that fallacy.
It's NOT "great" and also not a "religion" either.

Islam is a TERRORISM'S FACTORY, a SCHOOL OF HATRED and a BLOODTHIRSTY IDEOLOGY.

DON'T JUSTIFY WHAT IT CAN'T.

Muhammed, asalam alaikum.

Two things, if you do not mind me interfering with your convesation directly.

1) being aggressive and at the same time using the word 'kafir' or infidel only makes you look like your here to have an abuse session, not a discussion on topics. So far, all I have seen is aggression and that really is not valued on this blog, you need to debate issues with facts.

2) no matter what you (or I say) most here have already opinions and impressions (of which are wrong) that are not easily going to change, if they will change at all. I am not looking for converts or to argue with those extremist hate-mongers amongst them, ugly filth will always be ugly filth. The reasons to be on this blog are in fact very simple and I suggest you stick to the same - point out the obvious lies or mistakes and show them that why it is in a logical fashion. Also simply show that there are normal lives out there. The other reason is to, in fact, show them how horrible radicals, extremists and terrorists are not only rejected by most Muslims but that there is an effort out there to fight them. I show them also that most Muslims just have basic lives not unlike their own.

Ma'aslama

Solkhar
Marrakech, al Maghreb

What you're asking of this jihadi simpleton is beyond what he is capable of.



Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Disqus

Solkhar,

Assalam alaikum,

You are right and i will act upon your rational advice as I have also come to know that it is useless to throw pearls before swines.
Regards,
Muhammad,
Pakistan

Swines are SUPERIOR beings compared to muslims. They are CLEVER, CUTE and USEFUL unlike
the muslim plague.

Even the bacterium SALMONELLA ENTERITIDIS is something cute and noble compared to any muslim !!
HAHAHAHA !!!

PBUH ( PISS BE UPON HIM )

Islam a great religion??sez who? it's you of course!
Free speech entitles anyone(especially with substantiation)to label Islam what they believe!
I personally believe Islam to lie somewhere between a "black comedy"and a surrealistic nightmare!
But you, as someone who was brought up to believe the fanciful and the downright silly have a view inculcated by indoctrination and mind conditioning.
Now if Allah were to join me here on my sofa and tell me that he's a real space monster;and that I'd better fear his wrath(always with wrath).I might just come round to your point of view.
But I believe that to be an unlikely contingency and therefore feel quite empowered to scoff at your supernatural fantasies.
What about Odin,Zeus,Baal,Dagon,Helios??don't you think that they should be respected in the same way Allah is?
I personally long for the day when Allah becomes unfashionable and is replaced by someone less agressive;like Beej for instance.
Yes Beej as a deity ticks all the boxes;start praying to him right away or suffer his approbrium.
Free yourself from your inflicted brain damage and investigate the marvels of science through personal education.
It's a fact infidels always win because your capricious Allah is the monster who retards your advancement!
Become an apostate it's the only thing that makes any logical sense!

Muhammad,

Very original retort. JH has every right to speak his mind on this site. If you do not like it, perhaps you should visit a site better suited for your need to spew BS and obscenities. Try www.revolutionmuslim.com. - my favorite. Yes, we are well aware of how Muslims "treat" those who speak against their vicious, cowardly actions and their vile "religion".

Yes, JH has every right to use his disgusting BS and obscenities just like Muhammad has his right to tell JH what an anal-retentive a-hole his is.

Your own double-standard is clear - you say nothing about the constant, unending, ugly child-like rhetoric of JH but get all upperty if a Muslim says something equally as direct - is very sad indeed.

As for revoluionmuslim, your shortsightedness in assuming that every Muslim supports it is as similarly retentive.

Personally, I wish there was a language and personal attack rule on this blog, but I am not the owner and I respect his willingness to be open and tolerate all sides, the good and the anal-retentives.

Solkhar,

"As for revoluionmuslim, your shortsightedness in assuming that every Muslim supports it is as similarly retentive".

When did I say that ALL Muslims support Revolution Muslim? I suggested that Muhammadharoonozare, who wrote "U bastard, shut up your mouth and do not ever try to post your comments about Muslims" and "You bastard very well know how Muslims treat a
bastard like you" would find like-minded Muslims there to correspond with.

Then, Christine, by its very nature you must also condemn the turd JH, which I noticed you have still avoided which makes me consider that my assumption is still valid.

ps. I continue also to my point already made, I condemn such language from anyone.

Your reply does not make sense, Solkhar. "by its very nature??? you must also condemn..." Why must I do that? What assumption is valid?

Anyway, Muhammad is free to write his incoherent remarks for as long as Infidelesto allows. I could not care less. He just proves MY POINT with every ridiculous comment he posts. I never said to him "U bastard, shut up your mouth and do not ever try to post your comments about (infidels)".

"Personally, I wish there was a language and personal attack rule on this blog".

Anal-retentive a-hole, lunatic, brainless, nutjob, turd (your words)...These are terms of endearment where you come from??

You are a hypocrite, Solkhar.

You have accused me of making assumptions and being "shortsighted"; both are baseless accusations. Before you make more accusations, be ready to substantiate your claims or I will be forced to conclude that you just write whatever bullshit comes to mind in an effort to justify your weak arguments.

Your friend, Muhammad, will go the way of other raving Muslims who visit this site: he will spout a few more lines of nonsense and run off, never to be heard from again.

No hypocrisy here at all Christine_S,

I use the language that was thrown at me to point out how crass some posters are. People are polite then I will be just as or even more polite.

As for my point that you appear to not have understood - you condemned the other poster for his language yet you still have avoided the fact that JH has used such language from as far back as his first postings. Thus, someone like Muhammad that joines and uses it and is instantly condemned lust looks like doubl-standards - that is my point.

I do not know who Mumahmed is and frankly speaking I am not interested as he has not contributed other than having a go at JH. Thus calling him "my friend" is just another example of your problem, not mine.

Your short-sightedness has been proven, not baseless. I do not accuse or assume anything, but your postings have shown that, just run through all the items above that you have given and it become self-evident. Your genereralisations, for example on this thread above stating "we are well aware of how Muslims "treat" those who speak against their vicious, cowardly actions and their vile "religion" is just one of many examples.

All my postings have a point, it starts with identifying factual errors and misconceptions to pointing out blatant rubbish.

I am more than happy to point out the dangerous, horrid, abusive, disgustting and other sordid acts done by those of or in the name of my faith, but only when posters are civilized. Even today, as I furstratingly had to suffer hours of useless backwards and forwards paper hunting to renew my residency papers I witnessed and intervened in an example of horrible ignorance by people who should know better. A priest, French, whom is newly appointed to the Cathedral here in Rabat were I also have a home was hassled by an ignorant beaurocrat - jokes were made behind his back in the local Arabic dialect - which I understand. I waited to my papers were done and then called the boss in, pointed out that I worked with the chief of police of the city and told him what was said was unacceptable. That ignorant employee then assumed I am non-Muslim and had no right - then I told him the law, recited the Qur'an pointing out that a Muslim is not allowed to question the faith of another and then made the boss to force him to apologize. The totally confused and embarassed priest tried to thank me and we had coffee together and I told him that this happens everywhere, and that I am even debating such BS on the net with some very ignorant westerners

The point being, I take common sense and reality on the ground serious, unlike some who either do not bother to know the real story or obscure it for their own agenda, Which one are you?

I am still interested, by the way, how you can not condemn JH's language, yet find time to do so for a newcomer - presumably because he is a Muslim.

"No hypocrisy here at all". You are full of hypocrisy, Solkhar.

"I use the language that was thrown at me to point out how crass some posters are." You are also a liar.

"you condemned the other poster for his language yet you still have avoided the fact that JH has used such language...".

I said Muhammad's comments were BS. That is an opinion, not a condemnation. I do, however, condemn him for being a Muslim, as I do all followers of your demented religion. I am not avoiding anything. Listen carefully. I will try to be very clear. I do not give a damn what JH writes in his comments. I respect his opinions and whatever words he chooses to convey those opinions is up to him and fine with me. I am not here to defend the feelings of you or your ranting, illiterate Muslim brother or to set rules of conduct for this site.

"All my postings have a point". "Your short-sightedness has been proven, not baseless".

Your "points" are clear only to you, Solkhar. Your unsubstantiated accusations, ridiculous assumptions, feigned righteousness, twisting of the truth and outright lies are becoming very annoying. You have not and cannot prove much of what you say.

"Your genereralisations, for example on this thread above stating "we are well aware of how Muslims "treat" those who speak against their vicious, cowardly actions and their vile "religion" is just one of many examples".

What's wrong with that? I would like to add that these vicious and cowardly acts are not just reserved for those who speak out against Islam. Muslims are the perpetrators of the other evil, sickening deeds posted on the site. I am sure you know what I am talking about. I will be happy to elaborate if necessary, but not right now. It is past my bedtime and I am tired.

"I am more than happy to point out the dangerous, horrid, abusive, disgustting and other sordid acts done by those of or in the name of my faith".

I am not "happy" to do so, but it must be done. I am glad we agree that those of your faith are dangerous and disgusting.

"recited the Qur'an pointing out that a Muslim is not allowed to question the faith of another"

This is in the Quran? Where?

" I do not give a damn what JH writes in his comments" ( Christine _S)


Thank you !

" the turd JH"

"I condemn such language from anyone"

????

Actually the pedophile and inventor of Islam, Mohammad ,the one who used
to slaughter the Jews by himself was the TURD.

TURD is what you've got in lieu of a brain. That's valid for ALL filthy muslims that
proliferated like rats throughout the world.

I condemn your very existence. You are all USELESS and STUPID.
Even the money you've got is only because Christians invented the
automobile and how to use oil to make gasoline to make their engines
work.

Without it, muslims would still be living off of caravans ,selling slaves
and carpets. That would be ALL of your "economy".

Dubai's buildings are all designed by infidels. Muslims crave to
IMITATE the western beautiful things while their brains still lingers
in the 7th century.

"…It is permissible to kill gentile [read "Palestinian"] babies “because their presence assists murder, and there is reason to harm children if it is clear that they will grow up to harm us … it is permissible to harm the children of a leader in order to stop him from acting evilly … we have seen in the Halakha that even babies of gentiles who do not violate the seven Noahide laws, there is cause to kill them because of the future threat that will be caused if they are raised to be wicked people like their parents.”

Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira, inciting goyicide

"There are ugly men in every faith and every culture, including my own"
- Albert Einstein

Rabbi who cut Children, What if he Were Muslim?
Posted on 21 October 2009 by Emperor on loonwatch.com


Rabbi Elior Noam Chen

A Rabbi has been accused by Israeli officials of burning and cutting toddlers as part of a purification ritual. These stories are ugly and cast a dark shadow on adherents of faith, but one clearly notices how this case is being treated as a lone wolf acting out of a misguided direction. The case is rightly being cast as an aberration and does not impugn all of Judaism as the source of this Rabbi’s criminality. One has to ask though, that well worn question: “what if he were Muslim?”

A self-appointed rabbi accused by Israeli officials of burning and cutting toddlers as part of a purification ritual will be extradited from Brazil, an official said Thursday.

Elior Noam Chen will be picked up Oct. 27 in Brasilia by two Israeli agents, a Brazilian Foreign Ministry spokesman said.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity as he was not authorized to discuss the case.

An Israeli embassy official also confirmed that extradition was imminent for Chen.

Chen and several of his followers allegedly used knives, hammers and other instruments to abuse children as young as 3 and 4 years old in the West Bank settlement of Beitar Illit in February and March 2008.

Chen allegedly hit the children in the head and face and burned their hands. One child sustained permanent brain damage and is in a vegetative state, according to Israeli officials.

In Israel, Chen faces charges of child abuse, violence against minors and
conspiracy.

Brazilian police arrested Chen in Sao Paulo in June 2008 after a 45-day
manhunt. Police have not said how or when he and his family arrived in the South American country.

He fought extradition and his case was heard last May by Brazil’s Supreme
Court, which found there was cause for Chen to stand trial for allegedly
subjecting eight children to intense physical and mental suffering because they were supposedly possessed by the devil.

An appeal to the court was rejected last month.

His extradition had to be formalized by Brazil’s Justice and Foreign
Ministries, and final approval had to be given by Brazil’s President Luiz
Inacio Lula da Silva

"A self appointed rabbi" says it all for me. All he did after that was a fraud, and his actions speak for his state of mind. Such evil can appear anywhere, anytime, in anyone. He should get the maximum penalties the law allows.

I wouldn't show any leniency toward this "rabbi". I'd gladly HANG him
or make his family pay for the electric bill of his EXECUTION by the
ELECTRIC CHAIR.

I'd PAY to be the one to FLICK THE SWITCH !!

Did I ever say that ALL Jews are good ?
Nope. They are not.

In Israel you've got Jews perpetrating BANK ROBBERIES, CAR THEFT,
RAPES, DRUG TRAFFICKING, MURDER ...

There were "famous" Jews who were mobsters such as "BUGSY" Siegel,
and a SERIAL KILLER David Berkowitz aka the "Son of Sam" and the
SCOUNDREL and SON OF A BITCH, Bernie Madoff.

But...

NONE of them commited their hideous crimes in the name of
JUDAISM.

Actually, the guy above did and there are entire organisations wanting to do so. The supporters of the late Moshe Kahanne, the radical ultra-orthodox groups in and not in the Knesset whom want to force (and do force) land graps, take over the entire West Bank, Gaza, Hebron, the other half of Al Qods .... you call it Jerusalem and even some say most of the Kingdom of Jordon. These groups when asked about the existing Palestinian inhabitants always come out with ....."who?, oh that is there problem". Some just say, like the item below, it is just to kill them, their children as well. Either way, they are proposing support for ethnic cleansing and mass murder. They also have made supporting statements towards the actions of the Serb Nationalists and much more.

Now I am not, like you have done towards us Muslims, going to assume that all Jews are that bad, they are not at all. But, it would be rediculous to say that there are no crimes in the name of Judaism. If their power increases in the Knesset, it should be pointed out that they already "have the bomb".

You can continue your dreams and pretend they are truths, it simply does not stick but rather it stinks.

" the other half of Al Qods .... you call it Jerusalem and even some say most of the Kingdom of Jordon. These groups when asked about the existing Palestinian inhabitants"

I do not recognize "Al Qods", the so-called "kingdom of Jordon" or "palestine".


" the late Moshe Kahanne "
He is "late" because a FILTHY MUSLIM murdered him in New York.

I only recognize ERETZ YISRAEL.

Period.


" it would be rediculous to say that there are no crimes in the name of Judaism "

The ones who commits crimes evoking the Torah in Israel are:
a)In jail.
b)Being legally sued by the Israeli Attorney-General.
c)Dead by the Israeli police.
e)In a mental care facility.

You just CAN'T compare the judiciary in Israel to ANY other country in the Middle East.
Very often arabs ( that you call "palestinians") hire Israeli lawyers to sue the Israeli State
and WIN.

Do I like that?
Nope.

Muslims are SAVAGES since BIRTH.

It's hard to see your point. Taking you at your word, which is a favor given your record , you have reported a demented rabbi who behaved criminally and was apprehended by the Brazilian authorities, as he should have been.What is amiss here?

I am supposing that groups of Jews did not immediately assemble to warn the public against anti-antisemitism as Muslims do here..Jews didn't demand police protection against acts of violence that never materialized as Muslims do here, whenever their coreligionists are accused of honor killings, attempting to blow up buildings, planes, stabbing professors, raping passers- by because they were not swathed to the eyeballs in clothing. Nobody had to point out that this had nothing to do with Judaism. Everybody with any sense knows that this is not a matter of Judaism. . The track record of the Jews and their humanitarian behavior is too good to believe such a thing. Their rational law abiding behavior is known throughout the world.We are convinced by their deeds. You would have ot have an agenda,Islam perhaps, that conflicted with reality to try to spread such lies.
You ask - what if he had been an imam? Funny you should ask. Imams have been known for their savage cruelty in the schools where most of the" learning" is the memorization of the Koran by rote. There are numerous verified reports by missions societies and human rights monitors concerning Christian boys who were stolen from their parents in the southern Sudan and brought to the north for slave labor by their Muslim captors.These boys are chained at the ankle and forced to recite the Koran daily.Those who resisted, and boys as young as five years old did resist, were brutally killed; some crucified. The society around them absorbed this behavior without a murmur.

The cruelty of Islam is routine in this part of the world. Groups of Europeans hurried to the area and began buying back the slave children in a desperate attempt to stop the suffering,but there was not a peep of protest from the Muslim world. Or should I say your Muslim world. The hideous legacy of slave taking,. hallowed by the arch fiend Mohammad, made the suffering of these black children unworthy of notice to Muslims.
Islam, the dogma of violence which openly preaches maximizing terror to all who refuse its doctrines; Islam has worked hard for its evil reputation. It does no good to blame and accuse the world. If you want a different harvest, you must sow different seed. Condemn the Koran's insistence on killing the apostate and reducing the infidel to slavery and taxing them to misery.Renounce the violent conquest of the world if the world refuses your offer to become Muslim. You won't Go and hunt for another story about the Jews. You will have to look hard because there is not much. But 99 per cent of all terrorists are Muslim. Think about it.

What, you actually read an entire post?

This was a point to JH not to you or others, his self-jerking-off with baseless comparisons and "we are better" deserved such a response.

Second point, no 99 per cent of all terrorist are Muslims is in fact incorrect. Right now we could say they are the prominant 60 per cent.

Third point - there is no "taxing them to misery " - you read to much Spencer BS.

Fourth point - there is no "infidel to slavery" - you read to much Wilders BS.

Fifth point - any such violent conquest of the world is by a pathetic minority not supporterd by any Muslim government or population other than a hand-ful. You read to much Schlussel BS.

Sixth and last point - there is no dogma for maximum violence - you simply made that up AND that in the end is the value of your postings Bronwyn. Your attempts to look moderate and justifyably concerned about real violenc and dangers from radical Muslims is in fact just right-wing BS. You have chosen to read into texts only what you want to and regardless of the points, only wish to tow the same decrepid and failing lines.

As for Jews and your last comment, as I said above, I showed the turd JH that his examples are crap and that is all. I have respect for Judaism, probably more than most here for a number of reasons, particularly JH who is just a stupid c*nt with a hate-agenda of his/her own. I not only support the existance of Israel and its right to defend itself, but I have respect - religous respect - for the People of the Book because those "Good Jews and Christian" do go to heaven alongside those good Muslims. I live in a country with a strong Jewish tradition and with that community being a strong and undeniable part of the country. My neighbours and best friends here are Jews and I have Jewish family back in the Netherlands. I can speak with all of them about Israel's good and very ugly side without being considered anti-semitic or about radicals in both our religions and they can support or debate without bigoted hatred or throwing agenda-based BS - like you have.

Trenchant stuff, Bronwyn. Devastatingly effective, too. Take care that the Muslim KGB, or whatever, never divines your identity, for you would pay dearly for your effrontery. No doubt Solkhar will say you are only proving his point, whatever that is supposed to mean, and no doubt some gullible liberal fool will side with him, for there is a strange need in our "enlightened" world to find poetry in the bizarre, sense in the absurd, good in evil and praiseworthiness in the despicable. It seems the hippies never went away.

I have read and re-read Solkhar's posts ad nauseam, desperately trying to find his message, but it is an exercise akin to trying to find bones in porridge. His utterances are amorphous and vacuous, so one finds oneself chasing one's tail like a demented dog. He is blind to the fact that Islam is responsible for thousands of the world's annual outrages, or that it is the only "religion" that claims the world's daily headlines for bloodshed and murder. If he ever acknowledges the fact of Islam's insatiable hunger for blood and agony he tries to convince us that because not all 1.5 billion of them are so engaged we must not point the finger at his "religion" as a whole. Verily, until such time as the whole sorry lot of them take up the cudgels against us we must view Islam with respect and consideration and tolerance! What rot! Are we, as we look back on the foul excesses of the Roman Church during the Inquisition or the Crusades, to deny the rottenness of that organisation because only a tiny minority of its adherents participated in the hell it precipitated? Muslims and Jews would scream a loud and raucous NO! And rightly so. The ones that mattered - held power - called the shots, just as the power brokers of Islam to-day fire the shots.

We live in a world in which there are those (Muslims and, amazingly, otherwise) who loudly condemn Switzerland for taking its recent action against minarets, but not a whisper do we hear in condemnation of Muslim denial of acceptance of blame for atrocities such as - to take but one example - the slaughter of the innocents in Mumbai a year ago. Not a word about the death sentence placed upon Rushdie, a Muslim who deeply loves his "religion" but sees its evil. Do observers of Islam cry out in anguish when Islamic newspapers do not cry out in anguish over Islamic honour murders and slaughter perpetrated by suicide bombers and televised beheadings of helpless infidels?

Holy shit! Over the past couple of decades Islam has changed the world for the worse, has it not? Just imagine if Christianity had followed a parallel path, indiscriminately and willy-nilly slaughtering Muslims the world over: bombs in passenger aircraft; bombs in Islam's market places; rockets fired into Islamic countries; planes crashed into Mecca and Medinah; suicide bombers galore; bombs on public transport in Islamic capitals; the feeling in the Muslim mind that at any moment death might strike from the shadows; forced conversion from Islam ........... and all the rest of it. I suspect Muslims might feel a bit miffed, do you? Yet, it is their daily bread and butter, for their diseased prophet deemed it to be so.

Just think ...... we have a man in the White House who considers Islam to be de rigueur and those who frown upon it as unAmerican.

Murder is a criminal act under any circumstances and the preliminary evidence leaves no doubt that Hasan commited the murder of 13 people, and wounded 30 more. The question of terrorism was settled in the minds of most when many of the survivors reproted he said "Allahu Akbar" before he opened fire. His status of being a born in the US Muslim was confirmed as fact from the start. But a Muslim will never let the facts get in the way when it concerns another Muslim. On the other hand, how many articles on this very site tell of Muslims rioting, killing bystanders and destroying private and public property because of RUMORS of offenses concerning Mulsims? Since this iman is obviously trying to legitimize this terrorist attack on American soil, he legitmizes similar attacks on Muslims on American soil, since he demonstrates that Muslims consider all non-Muslims as their enemy. If we are their enemy, then we can attack them in the same way at any time. To bad we're too moral and ethical to acctually do it.

Bilal Abdul-kareem, you are indeed a well spoken individual,although mis-guided, I will pray that God will grant you wisdom and unleash the serpant that possesses your tongue and re-store your blindness to which you've been cursed Dear brother. For the rest of America watch out for the false prophets that walk among you.

You ask when and where is it appropriate to attack your enemy? You say that the islamic terrorist (killer motivated by the teachings of the quoran) Major Nidal, was justified in killing his "enemies". I ask you, should nonmoslems use islamic standards to eliminate our enemy, you moslems? Islamic teachings demand the blood of the innocent. This can only be satanic.