American Imam worried about Catholic youths becoming terrorists

What that muslim guy was referring to is the IRISH protestant/catholic problem. Remember, up to just a few years ago the IRA (catholics) was into planting bombs too. And I understand it was all of the Irish catholics--just a few of them doing the nasty deeds.But, now it seems that they have grown past that nastiness, so, good for them.

I really think that these muzleems have some serious mental problems. Most Americans couldn't care less about religion not their own. I personally don't care if someone thinks cow flops are their god or that cow flatulance is "The Word" and the smell of it is just a blessing! That idiocy is pure stupidity to me. The allah, mohammad, imama and ayatolladingdong crap is just that....crap to me. Keep all that bullticky to yourownself and leave me alone. Don't bother me you idiot, I'm trying to enjoy FREEDOM and you come screaming jihad and allah is at the back bar or some kind of crap.. Hey! Stuff it muslims! Keep the crap out of here. If these moron muzleems don't like the US or the Europe they asked to immigrate to....they have the option to go back where they came from and shut up....far as I'm concerned, the next muz that trys any stuff around me is in deep do-do. It'll be hospital first and the plane home second....if he makes it.

The comparison between Roman Catholics and Muslims is LAUGHABLE.

Catholics just built the foundations and walls of what I call " Western Civilization "
whilst Muslims are poised to destroy it.

Catholics pratically " invented " music as we know it nowadays. Chopin, Mozart,
Liszt, Vivaldi ... Oh Gosh, I could continue this list for hours...
Muslims did NOTHING... ZERO... NADA.

Muslims are TERRORISTS by birth.
Catholics aren't.

Yeah you Muslims watch out for those altar boys on the rampage!

He's probably referring to the catholics in Ireland......I had a muslim tell me that Christians are as bad as muslims because of that protestant/catholic conflict....

There was a time, long ago, when Christians were as bad (well, almost as bad) as Muslims, but Christianity has moved on, unlike Islam. It will continue to move on as the fabric of human existence changes. Had it not moved on it would still be burning people at the stake and forcing others to convert, but the Christian mind has the power of thought and has the astonishing mind and heart of Jesus and his message of universal love on which to base its continued evolution. Yes, there continues to be conflict - sometimes bloody - between Catholics and Protestants, and I don't think we are going to see the end of it any day soon, but progress is unquestionably being made. This is the crux, isn't it: Christianity develops while Islam stagnates. By the way, Greg-O, I am an atheist.

I wish to modify what I carelessly wrote. Instead of " ...... the Christian mind has the power of thought ........", I should have written "......the Christian mind is allowed to have the power of thought ...." Sorry for that.

Catholics EVOLVED. Muslims did not.

Beejj, being an atheist makes you very objective and lucid in all of your remarks. It isn't
by chance that you are number 1 in " likes " in this blog.

That certain Muslim was lying to you. There is no evidence to back up claims that Christians are as bad as Muslims. It's a propaganda tool to make the ignorant believe otherwise when anyone paying attention can clearly see the writing on the wall.

Correct, there is no evidence that Christians have been creating war and suffering more or even close to what Muslims have done in the last 50 odd years.

Sometimes "creating war" is a terrible, yet just cause in order to achieve peace. War is the only thing that thwarts true evil from spreading across the globe. There's no way to talk it down.

Islamists around the globe think the West is waging war on Muslims simply because they don't see it as that big a deal when something like 9-11 happens. Even the multitude of attacks before 9-11 could have justified a NATO operation against the Taliban.

Why is it so difficult for the average Muslim to understand that what the West is doing in fighting terror around the globe is actually in the best interest of non-violent, non-political everyday Muslims? Why don't more Muslim groups come out and support NATO, support the War on Terror, Support the efforts against groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban, Al Qaeda, Al-Shabaab, and all the rest?

Why do we continually see so-called "decent Muslims" supporting groups like Hamas and Hezbollah who are obvious terror groups?

"Why do we continually see so-called "decent Muslims" supporting groups like Hamas and Hezbollah who are obvious terror groups?"

Because its politics, not religion.

Because Muslims are the worlds biggest haters.

Politics eh.......
Tribalism wouldn't play a part would it?

That's the problem with Muslims they are taught that religion and politics are inextricable;thus a primitive cult cult gives rise to brutal politics(led of course by halfwits who describe themselves as scholars).
All underwritten by the fantasy that belief in Allah and the teachings of Moped somehow give them
an imaginary advantage.
They also comfort themselves with the idea that they are in possession of some highly esoteric gift
(from Allah the imaginary)that we Kufr do not have..

In certain circles people suffering from such extreme delusion are put in padded cells; if they are shown to be dangerous.

It just doesn't add up, Solkhar.

In Islam, politics and religion are one in the same. There are so many legalisms (dos and donts) that it's impossible to separate the two. In many countries, the Islamic leadership has taken over and implemented their version of Islamic Law, and they even call it "Islamic Law" or "Sharia Law". There is no other religion on earth that mixes their beliefs with politics like Islam does. Not even close. Why is there no value given to individual freedom and human liberty? Because they believe if man is given "freedom" he will committ immorality that goes against Islam and therefore must be "controlled" in order to stay pure. IT's a total double standard. I want you to be "pure" so my tyranny is justified.

I highly doubt the the so called decent muslims that support terror groups simply support them because they're leftists or whatever. They support them because they're muslims and they sympathize with their plight. They are incapable of seeing beyond the "muslim" label and seeing that in fact these are evil organizations that need to be dealt with. Instead, we see Muslims all over America supporting groups like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood (CAIR)

It does add up if all the wool and propoganda is taken out of the picture. You along with many such blogs complain about left-wing propoganda, the MSM not giving all the stories or blowing up certain ones etc, etc, but somehow you also feed of them as well.

The subject of Shari'a Law being one of them. Yes there are extremists who want a 7th century verbatum certain-haddith-based Shari'a system for the world and was, is and will continue to be rejected by the majority of the Muslim world. Even lesser moderate systems that are still run by theologians are rejected and I pointed out to you that less than half (or only minority) of have full Shari'a legal systems. Of those, again only less than half - thus a minority of a minority - have complete systems, the rest only for family law. That alone shows you that religion and politics is not the one and say in the Muslim world.

I find the double standard very large here on the basis that somehow Islam has to be viewed as different to other systems. There are only three factors that have to be taken into consideration about politics and Muslims. 1) Yes there is a very radical and dangerous extremist movement that is dangerous, demanding the unacceptable and needs to be battled. 2) Yes by its nature, the average Muslim, be he peaceful or not, correctly integrated or not, or just a person in a poor country or in wealthy, are all by their faith conservative in their values and show their faith through their prayers and eating habits. The third 3) is that the majority of the Muslim world are in poor developing countries with illiteracy and thus are subject to politically imature past structures that the poltically mature west no longer do - except for some radical nationalists. That is all. Man has always in the past, in Europe and even in the fledling US claimed God on their side, it is the lowest denominator in trying to gain support - appeal to their faith.

I also take acception to your phrase about decent muslims supporting terror groups. Decent Muslims whom have supported terror groups probably do so not knowing that it is connected to terror groups, they have no idea of the implications and realities, just like some of your readers/posters have absolutely no idea of the realities in the Muslim world and still see it as camels, guns and desert sands.

On the other hand, about half the Palestinians in the Gaza do not see Hamas as a terror group, not because of the actions, but because they "are" in their perspective, in the middle of a war. Just as much as there is a large section of Israelis whom support settlement expansion, they are also supporting terror of a different sort, destroying the land, lives and hopes of the population, not through bullets but with bricks and mortar. Both examples are horrible and despicable and both are happening and both - the population will argue to the bitter end that they are morally right.

Thus, your argument about the "muslim label" is incorrect. Go to a Palestinian, arguing about Israel and politics and the world Muslim almost never comes up until the desperation turns to real anger and then that base human need to seek out support based on faith comes out.

What you see, and you report and comment on, is the political or religous leadership whom will milk every phrase, call or demand and the word Muslim, Islam and God comes out again, again and again. That is politics, your not naive at all John, you know the talk of politicians is already tainted by agenda, power needs and perhaps their perceived desires for a population based on his/her growing up within those factors. They all will stretch one side and diminish the others that suite their goals. So, why do you claim it different because they are using difffering names, languages, scriptures and culture?

You are reading way to much into things,

solkhar: "I find the double standard very large here on the basis that somehow Islam has to be viewed as different to other systems."

Islamic values in regards to government power are different from corresponding Judeo-Christian American values expressed in our Declaration of Independence. Islamic values are based on the Koran and Hadiths and therefore lead to totalitarian government power which does not derive from the informed consent of the governed, i.e.: elite minority rule by Imams. Islamic values are destructive of the individual's sacred equality before law - law which must secure each individual's God-given equal rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness (private property honestly earned through labor) - law of the people, by the people, for the people - law of "We the People."

Yes, there are two standards which need careful scrutiny.

" even in the fledling US claimed God on their side "

It's not a claim. God helped, helps and will help America, for it is a bastion
of morality in this immoral world.

Your comparison between Israeli "settlers" to Hamas' terrorists is LUDICROUS
and PREPOSTEROUS, lacking any sort of credibility.

You are a muslim MORON.

Whoo!
Yea, next we'll have to watch out for those Mormon Extremists or the Amish Liberation Front.

I think the guy tried to make a point and instead made himself look all the greater the dickhead.

Maybe he thinks the RC in RCYB stands for Roman Catholic.