CNN Source: CIA was tracking Panty Bomber Before Attempted Terrorist Attack

by Infidelesto on December 29, 2009 · Comments

But did nothing but let the report gather dust…

The information on AbdulMutallab had been sent to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, but sat there for five weeks and was not disseminated, the source said.

One can only wonder if the effects of the Obama Administration sapping the courage, tenacity and will power of the CIA’s personnel to do their job without threat of prosecution is starting to yield some “performance” deficiencies.

(CNN) — The father of terrorism suspect Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab talked about his son’s extremist views with someone from the CIA and a report was prepared, but the report was not circulated outside the agency, a reliable source told CNN’s Jeanne Meserve on Tuesday.

Had that information been shared, the 23-year-old Nigerian who is alleged to have bungled an attempt to blow up a jetliner as it was landing in Detroit, Michigan, on Christmas Day might have been denied passage on the Northwest Airlines flight, the source said.

The information on AbdulMutallab had been sent to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, but sat there for five weeks and was not disseminated, the source said.

The source’s comments came shortly after President Obama blamed “a mix of human and systemic failures” for the incident and directed that preliminary findings into the matter be delivered to the White House by Thursday.

An administration official who spoke on condition of anonymity said the federal government had information that should have been assessed and meshed with other information “that would have allowed us to disrupt the attempted terrorist attack” before the suspect boarded the jet.

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  • pevans1
    How foolish of the black man to be a tool of the Satanic Muslims? Just how stupid are they? Everyone knows
    that the Muslims think less of a black man than a donkey's penis! For it is writen!
  • Solkhar
    LOL, what imaginary book was that "written"? If you want to at least look intelligent on any such "jibes" or "smears" than at least look a little bit smart. What ever crap source you got that one (perhaps just made up on the spot) obviously has no correspondence to reality. Billal, among the first Muslims and companions of Mohammed was black, a former slave and was given above all others the destinction to be the first man to do the call to prayer.

    Many Muslims, culturally are quite bigotted, but that has more to do with normal social xenophobia. Khaleeji's (Arabs from the Saudi peninsula) to a large degree think they are better than others simply because Islam was founded on their soil. Having said that, hundreds of years of black and other slave nationalities (because then they did not care if slaves were black, asian or even another arab) has made their own ethnicity mixed in color. There are many Arabs, rich, arrogant, themselves xenophobic and yet they are pretty much "black" themselves.

    Thus, your rather stupid comment above about Muslims thinking less of a black man - and it somehow being written - not only falls flat on the reality scale but in fact as we know, since you obviously were targetting Khaleeji Arabs themselves - is even more not the case.

    Islam itself does not give a damn about colour as much as Christianity does not and yet racial hatred and bigotry has been the corner stone of many western-Christian societies for centuries when "black" Muslim were marrying white and Arab Muslims with no issue at all.
  • pevans1
    Blow it out your ass, douchgag!
  • Solkhar
    "One can only wonder if the effects of the Obama Administration sapping the courage, tenacity and will power of the CIA’s personnel to do their job without threat of prosecution is starting to yield some “performance” deficiencies."

    I know John you have no respect for Obama and his Administration but it is worth pointing out that the processes, methods and most of the people involved are pre Obama, and if I read it correctly, so was this information on the bomber. There is nothing to suggest that anything would have changed had it been under the previous or current Administration.

    The problem remains the most important part of information gathering - providing it and disseminating it and that comes down to formulating the right procedures and following them. When it comes down to the effects and influence of politics and politicians - it usually becomes very apparant and I do not see it here at all.

    Before others start saying I am an Obama apeasist, I frankly do not care much about domestic US politics at all and who is the President unless it affects me.
  • hellosnackbar
    Solkhar you appear to think that America or indeed anyone who is opposed to Islamic terrorism has to maintain some standard of proprietry to which terrorists do not adhere.
    The fact that they demonstrate no honour or moral code whatsoever means that where they're concerned the gloves
    are definitely off.
    The Taliban or other terrorists for whom Islam is their rallying ideology have logically forfeited any human rights whatsoever(they wear no identifying uniform).since they merge with the "civilian " population seamlessly.
    Since these animals do not fight fair then they cannot expect their enemies to.
    This is of course exemplified by the now infamous rendition policy;but one could argue that this was a pussyfooting approach.
    The only thing that matters in my view are results;provided that interrogation techniques do not plumb the depths of the
    Gestapo then preventing terrorist outrages is the "de rigeur" purpose of the intelligence community.
    The Gitmo internees deserve no special privileges and I see no reason why Barry has responded as he did to the lobbying by the leftist "bleeding hearts and artists".
    It would appear that the Mossad are not constrained in this way and neither should anybody else be;since they all have a responsibility to their respective governments.
    I believe that the cowardly supine attitude of European governments(with their inherent anti-American agenda)has
    provided an agenda for Geert Wilders (justifiably)and also the neofascists(that Wilders knows will be an embarrassment
    to his ambition).
    Does the end justify the means??
    If it succeeds in marginalising Islamic terrorism ;then I would say an emphatic yes!
    These buggers should feel the lash.














  • I frankly do not care much about domestic US politics at all and who is the President unless it affects me."

    Exactly, you don't understand one iota why he is loathed so much in this country.

    It doesn't matter if most of the same people working there are "from the Bush era". It's the leadership that shapes and molds the functionality of an organization. Cmon, you should know better than that.

    Those processes and methods change when the boss changes the rules. And that's exactly what's happened with the CIA.

    the problem is not information gathering, but the handcuffs strapped to the intelligence gatherers and the fear of the cloud of persecution hanging over their heads.

    I don't expect you to understand what I mean because as you said, you don't follow domestic US politics unless it affects you.
  • Solkhar
    Yes I should know better and I believe that I do. If anything the effects of the leadership are still from the previous administration and not the current one. Add to that the resource use, methods and traffic movements have only improved recently and that is still attributed to the effects of commands and improvements from that previous administration.

    I would not say that I can see, nor those that I work or talk to (including in that field within the US) that there are any "fear of the cloud of persection hanging" or handcuffs - if anything, there objectives and limits are more clear. The last shakeup of fear came from the CIA identity leak associated with the Cheney, the abuse in Prisons with detainees that had photos leaked and that is all. The most recent shake-up is in fact the opposite, the strengthening of the situation with 47 previous detainees whom were considered not terrorists being now identified as certainly being those, if not some being leaders.

    Being interested in the motives behind domestic politics has no effect as far as I see and I stick to what I have said. As for Obama being loathed, I neither care about it, even though the stats say that he is only loathed by those on the right-side of the spectrum. I certainly, though, will ask that question in May and April when I will be in Boston, DC and in San Diego.
  • Tonto
    Again dude, you missed the point by a country mile. You just don't get it. Obama is a lame-assed fake...kinda like muhammid was but some different. The system failed because the upgrades that had been flagged by the Bush administration were made impossible by the lack of funding by the Obama administration. Obama spent the "stimulus package" instead on payoffs to his supporters....but that's a subtlety I guess you missed. No problem, lots of you foreigners have your heads up your ass.....you converted to islam, that says it right there.
    You talk about the detainees in Abu Graib as if they were victims of some torture worse than fraternity pranks during "rush". But I guess that's because arabs are pussies huh? That they made a big deal about that was laughable to me. Some different from public shootings, beheadings, power drill tortures and burning people alive or stoning them to death as in the "peace of islam" huh?
    As to Obama being loathed, I guess you could say that we in America are becoming "equal opportunity loathers" or something....seems as though lots of former Obama supporters have figured out that they been sold a "pig in a poke" and are now very apologetic about having voted for that asshole, so your "fact-finding tour" may have a few surprises for you. There are still some fanatic lefties that just love the Obamination, and his racist bitch...but you still have muz that think highly of that "immoral Bedouin", mohammid, too...so that makes us even. Please don't hold Obama against us, or view him as truly representative of us. Think of him as a "Jimmy Carter on steroids" .....not as smiley, but just as stupid.

  • You're exactly right....We can't expect Euro-socialists to understand American values, American exceptionalism, WHY America is DIFFERENT and therefore BETTER. They've grown up in a world of collective socialist think. Coupled that with Islam, and you've got that marxist-Islamist alliance thought process that infects that brain to the point where he doesn't know any better. Add a decent education to that, you get a pseudo-intellectual who can spew pure nonsense over and over and somehow use thousands of words to make him feel better about himself as if he's making MORE of a point by typing long winded responses.

    I'm sure the next Solkhar response will be:

    "You missed my point, blah blah blah"

    "I don't necessarily think blah blah blah, if anything it's blah blah blah"

    "I would not say blah blah blah, but quite possibly theres blah blah blah"

    As Storm puts it, "classic double think"
  • Solkhar
    Socialist, that is about as far away from my own choice of politics as you can get.

    Stooping to basic insult really does not stick, I simply and will continue to point out the realities. If your own domestic politics means that it blinds you to the reality on the ground, then I think you have failed in a basic understanding of what works and does not. Conservative America is still in a stunned disbelief by the simple fact that the population voted for "the other guy" and thus now everything is ugly, negative and still they think they are the only one's correct and the majority can go to hell - so much for democracy.

    Personally I am more conservative than you can imagine when it comes to my own views on politics and how I vote. I keep away from making a decision on Obama because I do not support his economic views and that he allows US beurocrats, expecially on trade issues to use size and monetary power to screw small countries and that the cure for the financial crisis was a scam. Having said that, I, like most of this planet took a deep sigh of relief when the Republicans were dessimated in the election and that americachauvinism was taken away from power. Some of the statements, like in Cairo promissed and showed great promiss and thus we hope that those visions and kept and that is all, the rest will have to come down to the "proof in the pudding".
  • JEWHAWK
    " so much for democracy "

    As if a MUSLIM could ever apreciate what Democracy is all about...

    Muslims are ALLERGIC to Democracy, human rights, women's rights, gays' rights...

    Frankly, get your grubby little fingers OUT of your keyboard (invented by the infidel
    Christians) if you crave to invade this blog.


    " americachauvinism "

    WASH YOUR MOUTH before cursing America.
    Thanks to the United States of America I am ALIVE today, you fool !
    Thanks to America, I can VOTE, too.

    America represents the very OPPOSITE of what Islam does. There are
    absolutely NOTHING in common between those two lines of thought...
    NONE whatsoever.

    You are truly a MORON.
  • funkybarfly
    Careful,Jewhawk,the "D" word(democracy) is one of Solkhar's many pet hates.
    Seems our understanding of democracy and freedom isn't bureaucratic enough in outlook.
    And anyway,Muslims are always free to submit.
  • JEWHAWK
    Quoting the Sura 5:51:
    “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them.” This friendship makes any Muslim a enemy of their own and deserving of the same fate as the unbeliever. This is because God does not guide an unjust people "


    I reckon that this chapter could singlehandedly explain a lot of otherwise unexplainable aberrations occurring nowadays in the Middle East and wherever muslims do dwell...

    Or this one from Sura 4:89 :

    “seize them and slay the infidels wherever you find them: and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”

    Muslim terrorists aren't really bad individuals. They're ALLAH's ROBOTS that just happen to follow a DISGUSTING, HATEFUL SECT called Islam.

    When this rich Nigerian guy stuffed his crotch with explosives, he was OBEYING those chapters above, therefore
    the QUR'ANUS and HADITHS and other islamic books should be BANNED for good.

    The Qur'anus is the REAL CULPRIT of islamic terrorism, for it is a TERRORIST HANDBOOK.

    Hitler's MEIN KAMPFF next to the Qur'anus is nothing but a comic book.














  • Beejj
    " .... take no friends or helpers from their ranks." It's OK to take their hand-outs, though. Of course, JH, you know what's going to happen, don't you? You will be told in no uncertain terms that your translation is wrong, or that you are taking it out of context, or some such bullshit. Silly boy, JH!
  • Solkhar
    "And when the Lord your God has given it into your hands, let every male in it be put to death without mercy. But the women and the children and the cattle and everything in the town and all its wealth, you may take for yourselves"

    "in the towns of these peoples whose land the Lord your God is giving you for your heritage, let no living thing be kept alive." (Deuteronomy 20:10-16)

    "Everything which I command you, that shall you observe to do: you shall not add to it, nor shall you remove from it. "(Deuteronomy 13:1)

    The Lord your God, he will go over before you; he will send destruction on all those nations, and you will take their land as your heritage. (Deuteronomy 31:3)

    We can all quote and assume context......
  • Beejj
    What was the purpose of this message, Solkhar? Why did you send it to me? What had I written that inspired you to write it? And why quote those verses from the Torah? You think I care a flying bollock about anything written in the Bible? Still, it would be interesting to see if you can find verses of similar flavour in the New Testament. Was your message somehow connected with my commenting upon the pictures of rabid followers of the religion of hate? If so, kindly explain.
  • funkybarfly
    And racist,Beejj,you forgot racist.
  • JEWHAWK
    Muslims are GUIDED MISSILES.

    There are missiles that were made to pursuit their targets seeking their heat.
    Muslim human missiles are being programmed by Imans to hit INFIDELS.


    LOST IN TRANSLATION:

    Beejj, I guess that LUCK is on our trenches, for widespread reliable translations of that evil
    book is available throughout the internet...including many islamic sources, since they even
    don't bother to hide their intentions.
    The spurious content of the Qur'anus is so blatantly aggressive that is IMPOSSIBLE to
    simply sweep their Everest-sized dirt under the rug...

    As long as I'm totally convinced that I'm telling the TRUTH, I won't mind to be called
    a "racist". I will perceive it as a BADGE OF HONOR.

    To defend itself is a noble thing to do, and this is exactly what I'm doing in this blog.
    Being another gullible victim of the politically correct rationale is not.














  • pevans1
    Jewhawk, I am pevans1 also on this site as pat evans. we have talked before but it has been a long time. Anyway, just wondered if you knew the addresses to some of the Islamic Fundamental, and I mean mental, websites out
    there? I really want to piss off some goat humpers!
  • Forgot a very important one.

    Constantly tossing Israel under the bus

    Giving Iran every benefit of the doubt when they deserve NOTHING of the sort.

    That and not doing anything about the Iranian nuclear issue except politically "bowing" everytime they spew their hatred for America and the West.
  • tim in fla
    Right On!!!

    Solkhar must be resting- takes alot out of you to bloviate.
  • The last shakeup of fear came from the CIA identity leak associated with the Cheney, the abuse in Prisons with detainees that had photos leaked and that is all.

    This is where it's obvious you haven't been paying attention to domestic politics. It's clear you haven't paid any attention to what the Obama administration has done in terms of national security policies since he took office.

    1. Closing Gitmo
    2. Mirandizing terrorists on the battlefield
    3. Bringing KSM to NY for a show trial where he can spew his extreme rhetoric
    4. Choosing to "investigate" and "prosecute" CIA officials for so-called "war crimes" and so called "torture"
    5. Giving enemy combatants full constitutional rights of American citizens
    6. Treating the global war on Islamic Terrorism like it's a law enforcement issue.
    7. Going overseas and constantly apologizing for America like a weak and pathetic leader trying to appease and pacify the Muslim world.
    8. Not standing up for American exceptionalism
    9. Not defending Freedom (Silence on growing Iranian revolution)
    10. Taking 3 months to give his top Afghan generals an answer on their request for more re-enforcements. And then only giving 75% of what was asked, including a timetable that can't possibly be met.
    11. Propping up dictators Chavez and Castro
    12. Turning the other cheek on close allies Columbia and Honduras in favor of socialist-commie regimes.
    13. Snubbing our closest allies every chance he gets (Germany, Great Britain, France)
    14. Bowing to other world leaders (More pathetic weakness)
    15. Sending Gitmo prisoners overseas to Yemen for "rehab" and then letting them go only to go right back into Jihad

    P.S. In order for me to dialogue with you solkhar, you really should get to the point instead of these long drawn out, wordy paragraphs. Just get to the point. I don't have all day.
  • Solkhar
    John, you may know your domestic issues but all I see is a very poor knowledge of international issues.

    My point remains valid, and if you want it simple and cut-down, I see no direct evidence that the current Administration has made a negative impact on intell collection at all. If anything, I see a potential improvement as it's policies, if anything will encourage and thus encourage international intelligence collection which the previous adminstration failed to do. The subject was about quality intell collection and the effectiveness of its intel and national security aparatus.

    As for your list, I will give you my and I am certain the majority of the world's views on it for you to briefly chew on:

    1. Closing Gitmo - most of the world, including western allies considered it to be an abuse of international law and a way for the US to circumvent its own laws.
    2. Mirandizing terrorists on the battlefield - are they enemy combatants or criminals, the current laws do not cover it and until the laws themselves are correctly changed, it seems only logical.
    3. Bringing KSM to NY for a show trial where he can spew his extreme rhetoric. I have seen reports that the people of NY want it and are looking forward to it and if any place should have it, they deserve the closure.
    4. Choosing to "investigate" and "prosecute" CIA officials for so-called "war crimes" and so called "torture". What the rest of the world certainly sees is an old-fashioned double-standard - we can accuse others of abuse and crimes but 'oh, no, not Americans, we do not do that". The US, to be on the moral high ground has to be in fact more vigorous, strict and severe with its own standards to be able to stand-up in front of the rest of the world and say they are correct.
    5. Giving enemy combatants full constitutional rights of American citizens. What is required is that the laws be enacted, whichever way is chosen, but make it legal. Either give rights, half rights or whatever, it does not matter but at least follow the law, if not, like 4. above, your country starts to look hypocritical and two-faced.
    6. Treating the global war on Islamic Terrorism like it's a law enforcement issue. That is international law and standards, in the end countries must follow rules and standards and there are non for cross-border conflict via terrorist organisations and not states. I would argue that the Obama Administration is not doing that, but they are starting to make the conflict an international issue which is what many experts agree it should be.
    7. Going overseas and constantly apologizing for America like a weak and pathetic leader trying to appease and pacify the Muslim world. Many would argue that he has in fact correctly pointed out that the approach by the US was incorrect and that he will not tolerate that political-partizan arrogance that has been dominating the US national security, trade and diplomacy areas. That he correctly understood and demanded that respect needs to be offered to be gained - from both sides. That is one area that I think Obama has correctly done and most nations, Muslim or not, have also agreed.
    8. Not standing up for American exceptionalism. He has a numbrer of times, as far as I have seen, followed the patriotic line, incouraged what American as all leaders has done, what he has not done and is not perceived to be doing is "americachauvenism" which leads to an image of arrogance that was the problem of the past Administration.
    9. Not defending Freedom (Silence on growing Iranian revolution). He has condemned, the State and Defence aparatus has been actively condemning but you will see a change, the Obama Administration has allowed the State Department to do its job (unlike the previous one) and thus there is a lot more diplomatic pressures such as convincing the Russians to be more hard on Iran - which has a great more affect. Some aspects are as going so far as that Obama allows the CIA more freedom to move and that the rallies and demonstrations in Iran is a direct result of that.
    10. Taking 3 months to give his top Afghan generals an answer on their request for more re-enforcements. And then only giving 75% of what was asked, including a timetable that can't possibly be met. This is the only one were I and probablhy most governments will agree with you. No argument, that I think is a recipe for disaster and thus also no pull-out later.
    11. Propping up dictators Chavez and Castro. I would like to see evidence of that. As for dictators, there are many and most, if not all countries, sit and do nothing and deal with them. That the people of Cuba, whom time and time again are happy with their regime, are not allowed to trade with the US and are to a degree embargoes is probably why the Castro-clan has so much support. Chavez, is as mad as his buddy Ahmadinejad.
    12. Turning the other cheek on close allies Columbia and Honduras in favor of socialist-commie regimes. Or alternatively, chosing not to interfer in other country's politics.
    13. Snubbing our closest allies every chance he gets (Germany, Great Britain, France). Actually, those countries have been backstabbing and snubbing the US for the last 15 years and because of a need for international acceptance and allies in conflict, the previous Administration has been licking Euro-balls instead of drawing the line. Now that US Diplomats get to do their work, they are doing pay-back for underhanded Euro-political posturing. Good on America, I have never been so embarassed about Euro-hypocrisy and how they got away with a lot.
    14. Bowing to other world leaders (More pathetic weakness). You mean recognising that the US President is only one nation on this planet and that the time for insulting world leaders is over. Or do you mean the tall-man's blunder when he stood to far and then made his bow to King Abdullah look like a really bad bow?
    15. Sending Gitmo prisoners overseas to Yemen for "rehab" and then letting them go only to go right back into Jihad. Agreed, the only other item on this list I agree with. That needs to be fixed and that was not because of Obama but policies that were already in place.
    16. Tossing Israel under the bus. Most nations on this planet would say that the current Administration has decided that Israel has a strong and close relationship with the US, a number of pacts and treaties and that is a reality but that is all. That the problem was with Israel considering it to be exclusive to the detriment of most other nations in the region. Thus, all we have seen is a readustment of a really bad pro-Israeli lobby inspired "wedgy" stuck up the arse of the US Government.

    John, I admire your patriotism, you love and admire your country - I respect that view and would condemn anyone who does not have that for their nation. I only am showing you what the rest of the world thinks and to remind you that there are more countries in the world than yours and that each has its own rights and rights to opinion.
  • Don't have time for a long response.

    All I'll say is you're response shows why I despise people like you. You're either wrong or totally ignorant on every single point...Every...single...one.
  • Solkhar
    Sorry, I forget, you dispise anyone who does not agree that your right, America is the saviour of the world, that conservative American politics is the only one and to hell with the rest of the world for disagreeing.

    That you are unable to cope with what is the majority view, either in domestic politics or international is frankly your problem. I stand by my reflection of what is reality, if I like it or not, i consider that the mature way of looking at things.
  • The "Majority view"??

    WTF does that mean? You somehow know the populus opinion of the world in regards to politics now, eh? You make me laugh. The freedom loving democracies around the globe would beg to differ.

    I'm glad you feel "mature" about your views, cause you know, that's what REALLY matters.

    I don't despise those who disagree with me. I despise those who support leftist, socialist, fascist, communist or Islamist politics. I also despise those who DEFEND those ideologies whether or not they agree with it (YOU).

    I'm also growing increasingly tired of you taking advantage of my open forum, spending hours and hours responding to everyones comments with long winded boring nuanced paragraphs. I'm all about allowing differing opinions, but lately I feel like you're abusing the privelige. This isn't "Infidels Are Cool w Solkar's rebuttal Blog".
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