Bangladesh: Rape victim receives 101 lashes for becoming pregnant

Third poorest counry in the world and the case was local, rural erea held by elders, so it did not even go through the legal process - what do you expect. The same rubbish happens in all dirt-poor, low-educated countries - Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or anamist. Get real this has nothing to do with anything except poverty and education.

Solkhar, please give us examples of raped girls being beaten for the "crime" of being raped in Christian countries. While you are about it, you might like to tell us of instances where this occurs in Buddhist and Hindu countries, too.

The life of a girl in rural India is just as bad as that of one in rural Bangladesh or Pakistan. Rapes, forced marriages, being sold-off in horrible fashions. That is well known and documented, I am not bothered to go and hunt links to what is a well known and common fact. Go look up "dowry" or "dowry hunters" and start reading and weaping. Add also that child-brides, child-abuse and India and find out how bad that is, of course they will not call some of that honor-killing but all the main quality honor-killing websites will point it out as facts.

There are a number of documentaries about Cambodian sex-slavery on BBC and SkyNews being shown and they refer to what also happens in Thailand, Laos and Vietnam, which is organised groups of men going around and raping young ladies and then as their disgrace grows, "an old man from the city, often a monk" will come and offer to take the girl to the capital as a domestic servent so she can be "out of the picture", she then is forced into prostitution. This happens to girls as young as 8 and 9.

The point I am making is there are excuses by "men" from the first day of mankind to abuse and claim power, be it over women, other men or society. Radicals and other evil men will use the most important factor in the lives of those around them, in Muslim countries they will claim Islam, Allah or the like, in the Hindu world it will also be Gods, Caste, Dowry systems and in the Buddhist world it will be "fate" & "traditions" and the west it will be money and now fame.

your audacity to mislead is spectacular. I document my findings and you just
make up unsubstantiated claims. Go start your own blog about religious
relativism. You'd have a lot more credibility if you started backing up your
false claims. It's not our fault you're too lazy to bring proof. Until you
do, your claims are simply laughed at.

You've said everything I've been trying to saying. Thank you, I'm really not a man who can easily explain things.

I hope I never get to be a teacher, dear god, poor kids!

Back to the subject:

Did you read what Solkhar wrote about history to me? It is as if I'm talking to a wall!

My reply to Beejj is there to read, as for your posting the item, your motives for posting items like this has nothign to do with the reality of the event and especially the cause of suffering of women and children, it is certainly sensationalism which you have all but admitted to John when you said basically told me to suck eggs in regards to "your style of posting".

sensationalism? The only thing sensational is your ability to lie, distort,
deflect, excuse and lecture on how you're above it all and have some sort of
elite understanding of geo-political and religious matters.

you're agenda distorts reality. you are a victim of yourself. Sad...

Solkhar, you claimed that punishment is meted out to raped girls in Christian countries, just as it is in Muslim countries. I asked you for examples. You have not done so. Why have you not done so? You are eager to tell us that you are a fact-finder rather than one who spouts vacuous nonsense, so come on: give us examples of raped girls being lashed or otherwise punished for having the audacity to be raped in Christian countries. If you are unable to do so, go forth and multiply.

Sorry if I mislead you in my statement, I had no idea your into pedanticism. It was meant to point out that abuse happens to women, girls and others in many countries for many sick, archaic, or other beastly reasons and is not the sole or the dominant factor in Muslim countries. If you wish to follow some pedantic line, that is simply your problem. Read my post and in the last line I point that out, the excuses are many and always targetting the most important thing to people be it religion by Muslims, etc, etc, etc.

Solkhar, you are squirming. You claimed that punishment for being raped happens in Christian countries. Read your own words, man! Now you apologise for misleading me, but attempt to score points by labelling me a pedant. You are a liar, Solkhar. Never again try to claim the moral high ground on this site by espousing the notion you only write considered, researched truth. You are an inventor of fables. Your credibility lies in ruins.

Beejj. Have I ever said that I love you?... Well, in a brotherly, friendly kind of way of course...


"Your credibility lies in ruins."

This sums up everything about Solkhar!

Anyway,just another way the psychotic preoccupation with the female sex manifests itself in peaceful Islam.

I have never formally studied "religion", FBF, chiefly because I see no point in concerning myself with superstitions invented by the Ancients. HSB recently pointed out that if someone claims to be conversing with God or his angels in this day and age he would be locked away, but if it is reported that such happened in the distant past we are supposed to swallow it whole. It seems clear, though, that sex looms mightily in the world of the Abrahamic religions. One does not have to go far into Genesis to discover this. Thus, sexual congress became the original sin. Although it is not written as such, God seemingly created genitalia for the purpose of peeing only, although why he created two kinds of genitalia is puzzling. What a catalogue of torment followed on from the apple nonsense! And there are those who believe every word of it!

As you say Beejj, you have never formally studied "religion", so I'd just like to clarify a point, but don't mean to criticize you personally. The Bible does lead one to believe that the original sin was about mankind discovering sex, but if you read the more ancient stories that the Bible condenses and edits, you would find that the story was about overcoming mankind's sterility, because he was created as a hybrid, a mule so to speak, and there was a need for mankind to procreate on it's own. I hope someone like you can see that this is a story that could have a scientific basis, only requiring scientific knowledge of genetics advanced enough to overcome such a problem. Only believing that such knowledge was available at that time stretches credibility, but that could be overcome by considering that someone that advanced could also have space travel.

As for HSB's point, when Mohmmed was first contacted by Allah, he did think there was something wrong with him, he thought he was possessed. It was his wife that convinced him his experiences were good things, instead of having him locked up. And the world, especially Muslim women, have been suffering for it since.

I often try to point out to religionists that people often spoke to "gods" and "angels" face to face in ancient times, even Mohammed said he saw Gabriel, if not Allah, but those that claim to speak to them today, never, as far as I know, claim to talk to them face to face. Why do "gods" or "angels" not appear to their most faithful followers anymore? Especially in these times of need?

Of, course, nothing to do with the all peaceful and loving religion of islam, right?

Geez, leave it to the insane pukes of the muz world to get it bassackwards. What a bunch of idiots! Where in the world do they get their crazy-assed mindset? No small wonder why they disgust the civilized world!

I have a problem with the statement, "Feminists aren't outraged either (as ever with these cases)." Back it up with some quality evidence. And stop making sweeping generalizations. Your post was and is really important. But you discredit your intelligence and seriousness with a ridiculous statement like that. There is absolutely no need to bash a group of women with this post. Your point should have stuck to the insanity of fundamental Islam as evidenced by the facts of the case. Duh!

I have only one thing to tell you, jc. Feminists normally blame the "culture", the "poverty" and so on. The most important feminist groups do nothing against these atrocities. I have read even that we were employing this only as a way to "discredit" Islam, when in this case it has been an Islamic tribunal, applying Sharia Law (the woman values half as a witness if we compare it with a man's witness). So she is just a sinner who wanted to have sex and he is pardoned.

Yes, being a woman myself, I'm outraged at the lack of general response feminists give to this kind of news. Don't need to bash? I respect your opinion, but I was not bashing anyone: I was saying the actual truth.

Feminist groups are generally silent on issues involving Muslim women. They often categorize "honor killings" as nothing more than acts of domestic violence. They may denounce these acts and give them lip-service with a buried article on their websites, but when asked to speak out on a PARTICULAR incident that smacks of Islam's brutal treatment of women, they have nothing to say. Sir Wilhelm is right. You are the one who should bring "some quality evidence" to prove the above statement false.

Anyway, I have no use for politically correct "feminist" organizations and their liberal agendas. They are a colossal embarrassment to intelligent women.

There are SOME worthwhile feminists.Hats off to these little troopers.LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h33y80u_Bh8

You can't prove a negative, and the lack of comments by feminists is a negative. If you think he's wrong, you are the one that needs to find comments from feminists condemning this incident. I don't think it's bashing to state the truth, although the truth often does hurt. Are you a feminist jc? In any case, I'm glad you agree with the rest of the post, I do too.