Guantanamo Bay Resort (for jihadis) enhanced interrogation led to bin Laden find and kill

by Kal El on May 4, 2011 · 10 comments

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What a shock, waterboarding a jihadi led to him squealing like a pig, and telling us where to find another jihadi, out of whom we made back bacon, then dropped it out at sea.

WikiLeaks: Osama bin Laden killed after tip-offs from Guantanamo

The mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, who was interrogated using “torture” techniques, gave the United States the breakthrough that resulted in the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM), who was repeatedly subjected to methods including “waterboarding” and stress positions, provided the CIA with the name of bin Laden’s personal courier, according to US officials.

A second source – also an al-Qaeda “leader” held at Guantanamo Bay – then confirmed the courier’s identity, sparking an intense manhunt that resulted in the dramatic final raid.

Secret documents seen by The Daily Telegraph disclose that this second source – the terrorist operations chief, Abu Faraj al-Libi – played a key role in finding “safe havens” for bin Laden and lived in the military town where he was finally found.

The killing of the world’s most wanted man as a direct result of information obtained from Guantanamo detainees such as KSM will reignite the debate over whether torture is a legitimate interrogation technique in the “war on terror”. Both KSM and al-Libi were subjected to harsh techniques during their interrogations in CIA prisons.

Amnesty International has already warned that the killing of bin Laden must not be used as evidence that torture is “justifiable”.

Bin Laden went into hiding shortly after the 9/11 attacks and the White House has been criticised for a series of failures that meant he evaded capture for almost 10 years.

During his time as a fugitive, bin Laden’s communications with the outside world were handled by a network of trusted couriers, who carried letters to and from senior al-Qaeda commanders. Using a telephone or the internet would have been too risky as electronic communications were monitored by the US and its allies.

But the CIA revealed that American spies have also been watching many of bin Laden’s couriers for years.

“One courier in particular had our constant attention,” a senior US government official said. “We identified him as both a protege of Khaled Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Faraj al-Libi.”

American spies learned his name four years ago; two years later they pinpointed the general region where he was hiding. Still, it was not until August when they tracked him to the compound in Abbotabad.

Secret US government files on the Guantanamo detainees disclose that al-Libi had several dealings with one key courier for bin Laden, who may be the same aide that led the US to the compound where the al-Qaeda leader was killed.

Al-Libi’s Guantanamo file, dated 10 September 2008, states: “In July 2003, detainee [al-Libi] received a letter from UBL’s designated courier, Maulawi Abd al-Khaliq Jan, requesting detainee take on the responsibility of collecting donations, organizing travel, and distributing funds to families in Pakistan.

“UBL stated detainee would be the official messenger between UBL and others in Pakistan.”

In mid-2003, al-Libi “moved his family to Abbottabad, PK and worked between Abbottabad and Peshawar,” according to the file.

In 2001 and 2003, he arranged “save havens” for bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, who is currently still at large.

It may not be a coincidence that the “safe haven” where bin Laden was finally caught was in the Pakistani garrison town where al-Libi lived in 2003.

Al-Libi’s file states that he had several further attempted contacts with the courier and set up a shop front to be used as a “drop point” for the meetings in April 2005, one month before he was captured. The courier’s name does not appear in KSM’s Guantanamo file.

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  • hellosnackbar

    Somewhat off topic;but I heard on the Beeb this morning that Muslim holy water(zam zam)has been analysed
    and found to have a very high Arsenic content.
    Now that’s irony for you.(poison in and poison out!)
    Health and safety will prosecute anyone found selling it.(in the UK)
    It will be funny if its availability in Mecca will be banned?
    Allah was clearly not much good at chemistry and toxicology!
    If only the Arsenic concentration had been higher;we might never have heard about Mo.

    • Anonymous

      Well, I’m not a rat.

      One of my “friends” in Turkey urged me to “drink this” when I had a cold.

      Tasted like bilge water.

  • Matthew Salazar

    Wow, that’s so interesting. Slight correction, though. It’s a giant steaming pile of Fox News-style horseshit. The records show conclusively that KSM was in fact waterboarded (why call it a resort if you acknowledge the frequent torture?) 183 times but that none of those times produced any real effect. In fact it was only under traditional interrogation (you know, the kind civilized people did before the cowboy in chief took over) that we got the info. Rumseld himself testified to this as well as several other people. Check your facts, buddy.

    Also, as a side-note, we’ve had KSM since 2003. Obviously his information was only part of the puzzle. A puzzle your president was reluctant to solve because he ‘really just [didn't] spend that much time on him’. But hey, never too late to try and leech off someone else’s hard work. Hey, there’s probably not that many people around who would say different if you decided to tell people that W killed Hitler. There’s an idea

    • Tonto

      What an idiot!

    • Kal El

      I am fully aware of how many times Khalid Shit Muhamhead was waterboarded. And I think it should have been done more, say daily. I am fully aware of what Donald Rumsfeld testified to. Al Libi was also waterboarded, as were a number of others, whose names have been redacted for obvious reasons. As for leeching off hard work, Obama seems to be doing just that, taking credit for success with policies Bush enacted, which Obama opposed outright (he is on record as being against the 2007 surge in Iraq), then adopted once he saw the way the winds were blowing. As for W killing Hitler, that is idiocy in its purest form.

  • Tonto

    The bottom line is that it worked… way or another… worked. The technique is used to get the subject into a more “pliable” state of reasonableness in which conversations may be conducted in a more civil manner. It’s not like burning their feet off while asking pointed questions. And, as applied to muz terrs, who cares? Muz take no prisoners unless it’s to enslave, rape, extort money, or to kill to try to make political points or terrorize. Why treat them any better? Personally, I would treat them with EXACTLY the same contempt and cruelty as they show all their captives……not in the kind and gentle manner utilized at GITMO.

    • Kal El

      Personally I think waterboarding is taking it easy. They should have their fingers broken, nails removed, knees smashed with tack hammers, in my opinion. Meet savagery with savagery. It is the only thing they understand.

    • hellosnackbar

      Absolutely Tonto, tender,loving ,care for these depraved insects would be foolish.
      I wonder if they ever used intravenous ultra fast acting barbiturates?
      I know for certain that this was used in the past.

    • hellosnackbar

      Absolutely Tonto, tender,loving ,care for these depraved insects would be foolish.
      I wonder if they ever used intravenous ultra fast acting barbiturates?
      I know for certain that this was used in the past.

    • SirWilhelm

      Aside from the eye for an eye aspects of doing unto them what they do to others, there’s the philosophy expressed by the recently departed OBL himself. That when confronted by a choice between a strong horse, and a weak horse, Muslims would choosese the strong horse every time. We must show them them our strength.