Shocker: CAIR steps up to defend suspected terrorist. Again

by Kal El on January 19, 2012 · 61 comments

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I think what people need to realize is that in islam, being a terrorist is not only a civil right, it’s an obligation? I mean, how else could CAIR reconcile calling itself a civil rights group, yet still always be on the wrong side whenever a muslim is caught preparing, conspiring to commit, or commiting an act of terror?

CAIR-FL Director Defends Terror Suspect…Again

Hassan Shibly, the Director of the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) Tampa chapter, has emerged as the leading spokesperson in the latest Tampa terrorism case. Shibly, however, seems an odd choice for this role given his own unscrupulous background.Shibly has a history of defending terror suspects while accusing the government of wrongdoing.

In October 2009, Shibly re-posted an article on his Facebook profile that criticized the use of force against a radical imam, Luqman Abdullah, who was killed by the FBI after he opened fire on agents who moved in to arrest him. In a comment on the article, Shibly wrote a statement of respect for the dead: “To Allah we belong and to him we return.” The criminal complaint against Abdullah left no doubt that the imam was a proponent of violent jihad and had even urged his followers to never surrender peacefully to authorities.

The latest case of Sami Osmakac, arrested on Saturday in an alleged Tampa bombing plot, is more of the same from Shibly, who has been reluctant to offer condemnation of Osmakac’s actions without, in the same breath, also casting suspicion on the FBI’s actions that led to his arrest.

“The weapons and explosives were provided by the government. Was he [Osmakac] just a troubled individual, or did he pose a real threat?” Shibly said on Monday. Later the same day, Shibly again offered a theory of the events that cast mistrust on the government’s behavior. Speaking to the Tampa Bay Times, Shibly asked “Would there have been any real plot without the support and assistance of the FBI?”

Still, Shibly has become a heavily relied-upon source for information on Muslims and Islam not just for the media but also in the education system.

Shibly now stands at the center of a controversy in Florida, where a coalition of education and conservative organizations has called for the Hillsborough County School District to sever its ties with Shibly and CAIR after years of the group’s representatives being invited to speak at schools in the district.

“Every year I invite a representative from CAIR to speak to our AP World History Students,” wrote Kelly Miliziano, a World History teacher at Steinbrenner High School in Tampa, in an e-mail from Nov. 14. “Over the years I have had many speakers from CAIR come to my classes,” she wrote in another e-mail.

In a Facebook post from Dec. 3, 2011, CAIR bragged that it had given presentations to more than a dozen AP World History and World Religions classes in Tampa public schools.

The coalition, however, has taken issue with the choice of CAIR, and Shibly, as moderate representations of Islam for impressionable students, especially without other truly moderate experts being invited to provide other viewpoints.

After all, Shibly has a history of defending terrorist groups and espousing some critical views of both the U.S. and Israel. In the aftermath of the 2006 Israel-Lebanon War, Shibly defended Hizballah as a “resistance movement” that provides social services to the Lebanese people.

“They’re absolutely not a terrorist organization,” Shibly said. “Their targets have always been military targets. They wear uniforms and operate overtly. Under American just war theory, since they have a political base and popular support from the people, any war against them is illegitimate.”

Shibly also avoided condemning Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist organizations when asked directly to do so at a Feb. 28, 2011 lecture at a church in Youngstown, N.Y. “But the trick we fall into is when we want to condemn them as a whole we completely cut off any chances for having a peace process.”

In light of past statements Shibly has made, it comes as no surprise that certain groups in Florida take issue with Shibly and CAIR frequently being given a platform to address students.

“Mr. Shibly seems at times to support or work with Islamists who are leading advocates for political Islam,” wrote M. Zuhdi Jasser, the founder of the American-Islamic Forum for Democracy and one of the speakers the coalition recommends inviting to schools in place of Shibly. “But when they [Islamists] become violent, he tries to distance himself with no corroborating public record to demonstrate a genuine ideological battle.”

Other CAIR leaders have echoed Shibly’s public expressions of doubt regarding the validity of the case against Osmakac since his arrest this past weekend.

Given his questionable political opinions, it is surprising how quickly certain groups, like the Florida media, are to get Shibly behind a microphone and hear his views on the latest events affecting the Muslim community. Shibly, for example, appears frequently on the Fox News affiliate in Tampa, including in an interview on Monday about the Osmakac case.

In the interview, Shibly reiterated his skepticism about Osmakac’s guilt, stating that there are only allegations at this point and the whole truth is yet to come out.

A call was made by the Investigative Project to the network to inquire about their continued reliance on Shibly as a source for information but there has yet to be any response.

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  • CMartel

    “We all have to die. So why not die the Islamic way?”
     
    “Muslim blood is more valuable than that of people who don’t believe in Islam” and I want “payback” for any wrong done against Muslims.
     
    “I want to do something, something terrifying, like one day, one night, something’s going to happen, then six hours later, something else.”

    I want to demand something … from the kuffar.” “My message [to unbelievers] is if you don’t accept Islam you’re going to hell.”
     
     
                                                                    — Sami Osmakac
     
    Was he just a troubled individual, or did he pose a real threat?”
                                                                      — Hassan Shibly,  CAIR
     
     
    No Shibly, he’s not just a “troubled individual” who is somehow misunderstood.  He is a psychopathic maniac filled with delusions springing from the ridiculous death cult you call islam.
     

    • Trainwreck

      You break a law or commit an act against innocent blood on American soil , you will be held accountable by American laws If you don’t like it tough. one nation, one law , one language.

    • Anonymous

      Muslims have not the God of Abraham, it´s just wishing thinking from the arabs side. When pigs are flying , maybe =)

      • ANGLO SAXON

        Hi Sealeo,long time no speak hope you’re well. Perhaps we could train pigs to fly and poop all over the muz. LOL.

  • http://www.traveLightgame.com/ ljcarolyne

    Never been so tired of hearing about the miserable Muslims and their doubly evil pig partners in crime like CAIR.  Dark as pitch devils that will burn in Hell forever and ever where there is the gnashing of teeth. Show no mercy for these reprobate Islamics.  Death cult is right, of which no one wants their children or their dog near a MF Muz.  They stink with the stench of death, nasty.  GRRRRRRR

    • JEWHAWK

      Ljcarolyne, have you already downloaded Al Green’s “Let’s Stay Together” sung by our beloved Obama? Al Green loved it. Now you have a president capable of winning “America’s Got Talent”, mingling seamslessly with Mickey and Gooffy at Disney World and actually even having time to do some campaign in battleground states !!!
      Ooops..I forgot to mention he’s isn’t working !!!

      • http://www.traveLightgame.com/ ljcarolyne

        No -ooooo that would make me sick. Obama is never working only cam-pain-ing, he’s a pain alright.   Boycott Obama’s State of Union Address Tuesday Night, turn off your TV or watch Mr. Poppers Penguins - those little birds are darling. 

        • ANGLO SAXON

          hi carolyne, did you hear about those bastards throwing a penguin in a lions cage?

          • http://www.traveLightgame.com/ ljcarolyne

            Wouldn’t you love to throw those evil pricks in the lions cage.  I would without a thought.

          • ANGLO SAXON

            yes it took the poor lions an hour to get the wrapper off.
            sorry hon I couldn’t help it when you mentioned penguins,bless you.

          • http://www.traveLightgame.com/ ljcarolyne

            LOL  – here is one for you:

            Winter travelling warning:

            With 15
            below at my house this morning it maybe a good idea to pass along this life
            saving advice.

            Enjoy the
            day!

            The
            Government has
            issued a travel warning due to the cold weather.

            They suggest that anyone travelling in the
            current icy conditions should make sure they have the
            following:
            Shovel
            Blankets or sleeping bag
            Extra clothing including hat
            and gloves
            24 hours worth of food
            De-Icer
            Rock Salt
            Flashlight with
            spare batteries
            Road Flares or Reflective Triangles
            Empty gas Can
            First
            Aid Kit
            Booster cablesI looked like an idiot on the bus this morning! BUT THE
            GOVERNMENT LOOKS LIKE AN IDIOT EVERY MORNING.

          • ANGLO SAXON

            nice one,I love it. LOL.

          • ANGLO SAXON

            Dear Carolyne.here’s some penguins just for you.Don’t tell anyone.

          • ANGLO SAXON

            Dear Carolyne.here’s some penguins just for you,don’t tell anyone.

          • http://www.traveLightgame.com/ ljcarolyne

            How cute thanks.  I’d love to have one but not really practical.  Also it would endanger the bird – don’t know the first thing of how to raise a penguin.  So the lion didn’t eat the penguin, you were just kidding, huh?  I’m glad.  LOL 

          • ANGLO SAXON

            yes just kidding,we have chocolate biscuits called penguin.

          • ANGLO SAXON

            I’d love to see that too,Carolyne,but would the lions eat them,or throw them back out?

        • ANGLO SAXON

          hi carolyne, did you hear about those bastards throwing a penguin in a lions cage?

      • SirWilhelm

        At least he’ll be able to entertain himself in jail, after he’s been tried for all the crimes he’s committed as the fraud he is, if he’s not executed, for the deaths that resulted from Fast and Furious, for which he’s most likely responsible, while acting as the Chief Executive.

        • http://www.traveLightgame.com/ ljcarolyne

          Don’t we ALL wish and pray it so.

  • http://madaboutmahound.blogspot.com/ Gary Rumain

    I’m not surprised. They whine about fake “hate crimes”, bitch about guys like this yet don’t say a word when followers of the evil Satanic cult of pislam do something outrageously evil.

  • JEWHAWK

    CAIR’s brazen attitude is the ultimate test for American Freedom of Expression. Most countries’ patience would’ve run out a long time ago.
    Maybe democracy isn’t doing its job when it comes protecting true law-abiding American citizens after all. In many cases, living in China is a lot safer, for them commie chinks’ know how to treat its local Koranderthal pest.

  • ANGLO SAXON

    Why the hell do our governments allow groups like this to exist ?

    • Anonymous

       That’s one of the million dollar questions, Anglo. That and why do they allow massive musloid immigration? Why do they allow musloids to gain citizenship and government jobs?

      I’m sure back in the ’70′s when this suicidal social experiment started the dippy hippies in charge thought the troglodytes would assimilate and just wanted to bask in their own sense of cleverness and moral superiority.

      By the late ’80′s when it was obvious the experiment was a failure and musloids would never assimilate what kept the assholes in charge on their suicide course was musloid oil money and the dippy hippies idiotically thought their money would save them from the unseemlier realities of life among the dreadful ummah.

      I think oil money plays a big part in keeping these asshats on the suicide track and to a lesser degree fear keeps them plunging foolishly towards cultural annihilation. I often wonder if some who have the power to at least speak out about this madness and be heard don’t because they’re afraid of the “tiny minority” of musloids that will kill them.

      • ANGLO SAXON

        ah Lady IC,as always,spot on.I wish we didn’t need the damned oil.

        theres a guy on facebook called abu bakar,I think everyone should take a look at, check out his photos.How the hell did he get on there? Facebook MUST KNOW what he is. Nice to be in touch with you again my dear Lady IC.

        • Anonymous

           Facebook
          like youtube is owned by pc/mc drones of the American marxist
          indoctrinations mills that teach that non-white cultures are to be
          protected and inherently superior to their own.

          Which abu bakr is it? Abu bakr the father of  islam’s first child rape
          victim? Or the faux “moderate” imam like imam roof roof of the ground
          zero victory mosque?

          In the pc/mc morass evil is good and to be protected and good and common sense are to be vilified.

          Do you expect any less or more from the clowns who hail Marx and Guevera as heroes and call truth hate speech?

          • ANGLO SAXON

            ooh I dunno sis, he looks quite young,He may well faux of some kind ???

          • Anonymous

            Do you have a link to this FB page?

            Abu and Bakr, Bakar, Bakir are quite common musloid names. 

          • ANGLO SAXON

            dear IC,I just typed it’s name…abu akbar and there he was.I hope you get to see him n tell me what you think.

          • Anonymous

            Can’t find it on my end. abu akbar only pulls up some saudi dawa site. abu bakr pulls up a dawa site about aisha’s pimp.

            I think there’s some Indonesian imam who by that name who claims to be a moderate but often calls for jizya to be demanded from Indonesia’s kaffir.

            I’m sure what’ you’re seeing is most likely a little limp dicked jihadi. It is not at all surprising. FB is run by dhimmi little whores just like youtube.

          • ANGLO SAXON

            I’m sure you’re right dear IC.I went thru yahoo messenger to get to facebook then typed abu bakar in does that help?

          • Anonymous

             I don’t use messenger. If you go back to the FB page just right click and copy the address bar at the top of your screen and then paste it here. Then I should have no problem getting to it.

          • ANGLO SAXON

            thats the name he uses,but at times,Abu bakar akbar pops up.dunno about a link,I’ll try to find him again let you know,me Lady.There’s 2 pics,one of him as a rag head,and one of a profile black balaclava and holding an AK.

        • Anonymous

           Facebook
          like youtube is owned by pc/mc drones of the American marxist
          indoctrinations mills that teach that non-white cultures are to be
          protected and inherently superior to their own.

          Which abu bakr is it? Abu bakr the father of  islam’s first child rape
          victim? Or the faux “moderate” imam like imam roof roof of the ground
          zero victory mosque?

          In the pc/mc morass evil is good and to be protected and good and common sense are to be vilified.

          Do you expect any less or more from the clowns who hail Marx and Guevera as heroes and call truth hate speech?

    • SirWilhelm

      Since Obama took the office of President, and I mean “took”, the answer is obvious. He’s a Muslim sympathizer, if not a closet Muslim. I strongly believe, that if he remains President, by hook or by crook, he will come out of the closet, and declare his true beliefs. The rest of the present government, is only following his lead, and favoring Islam over all else.

      • ANGLO SAXON

        Scary innit Sire.I hope it comes true,what I said a few days ago;a warning to the muz,that one day they’ll be fighting the peoples of the world,and not soft arse governments.

        • hellosnackbar

          There was a recent example of that in some woods near Middlesborough.
          The town council sprayed the woods with pigshit to discourage Mohammedan druggies.
          I was very surprised and delighted at this somewhat off beat politically incorrect measure and hope to see it used again.
          Try googling it Anglo.

          • ANGLO SAXON

            thanks HSB,I’d love to have seen that..Well I knew it would happen sooner or later,my ignorance exposed.So while I still have one I’ll hang my head in shame……..What is googling it please bro’? PS,please don’t tell anyone .

          • http://www.traveLightgame.com/ ljcarolyne

            googling = Googling is using the popular search engine Google.com to look up some one’s name in an effort to find out more about them.BTW the lions would tear them to shreds and then spit them out because the CAIR terrorist muz are pure shit-lings  – spelled chitlins – Yuck!

          • ANGLO SAXON

            thank goodness for that,I thought it was a cricket term. Thanks for that carolyne. the lions have good taste then,do they brush their teeth n wash their paws afterwards?

        • hellosnackbar

          There was a recent example of that in some woods near Middlesborough.
          The town council sprayed the woods with pigshit to discourage Mohammedan druggies.
          I was very surprised and delighted at this somewhat off beat politically incorrect measure and hope to see it used again.
          Try googling it Anglo.

        • SirWilhelm

          Islam is already at war with all the world’s peoples, the world’s peoples just don’t want to face up to it.

          • Anonymous

            I agree with U and it´s really sad that both my people in Sweden and all Europe is denying that fact.

          • hellosnackbar

            Sealeo old chum here’s a video from Pat Condell on your country.
            When are the next elections because if the current load of politically correct morons are elected then Swedish
            culture which until recently was held in very high regard is in a situation of atrophy.
            Let’s have your comments.

            Goodbye Sweden – Adjöss med Sverige! (Pat Condell) – YouTube
            Here’s the real link. Check out this video on YouTube:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPUbgbaJAL8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

          • Maritha Bergman, Sealeo

            Hi Snackbar!  I´m afraid that we just had an election last autumn and the dumb people choche the same government again, but the others are not anything to have either =( These guys are a bunch of rich idiots and the other are the same but a worker party and a bunch of foolers.
            I will try tpo see if I can find that video from Pat Condell, thank U.

          • hellosnackbar

            Maritha I saw another video recently on no go areas in Malmo!!!!
            How do your politicians answer that outrage?

          • ANGLO SAXON

            Maritha,hi again. if only………..

          • Anonymous

            O.T.. SirWilhelm, but I was wondering where you’ve been and took a gander at your FB page. I see you’ve got Cast in Bronze under your music section. I have a couple of cds signed by him. I love his work. I hope to catch him again at the RenFair this year. How did you discover this amazing artist?

          • SirWilhelm

            I too, saw him at a RenFair, the one near Pittsburgh, and fell in love with his work. I envy you your cds signed by him. I’ve been taking a semi-break from blogging. I grew frustrated by the lack of progress I’m seeing, particularly where Obama is concerned. I’m starting to ease back into it, although I’ve been following the comments on IAC pretty well. You’ve been doing a great job of holding up the Infidels side, along with the other regulars. I’m glad we share a love for Cast in Bronze. I’ll keep in touch.

            In a message dated 2/2/2012 6:47:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes:

            (http://disqus.com/)

            Istanbul_chick wrote, in response to SirWilhelm:
            O.T.. SirWilhelm, but I was wondering where you’ve been and took a gander at your FB page. I see you’ve got Cast in Bronze under your music section. I have a couple of cds signed by him. I love his work. I hope to catch him again at the RenFair this year. How did you discover this amazing artist?
            _Link to comment_ (http://disq.us/5a9919)

          • Anonymous

             Glad to see you still in the saddle. I understand the need to take a break from time to time. The stupidity and complacency of people is frustrating to say the least.

            I got my cds signed by DellaPella himself, but now there are three performers. If you check out his site you can see their schedule:

            castinbronze.com

    • hellosnackbar

      Anglo old chap,
      Here’s a video from my personal hero Pat Condell a very brave man who’s put his head on the block.
      Check out this video on YouTube:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCfUzFDvIlw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

      • ANGLO SAXON

        wow,thanks for that HSB,terrific Guy,he certainly is a hero I urge anyone who sees this link to watch the video.

  • Anonymous

    That is the true muslims and that is what Obama care about and not of the true american people. It´s really bad. Hope they will fall in the mud with their faces when praying.

    • ANGLO SAXON

      so do I mate,and not get up again.

    • ANGLO SAXON

      so do I mate,and not get up again.

  • hellosnackbar

    Here’s some Pat Condell fan mail from the admiring Mohammefan hordes.http://www.patcondell.net/page4/page4.html

  • http://twitter.com/tonykeywest Anthony Capo

    The true islamic concept of peace goes
    something like this: ‘Peace comes through submission to Muhammed
    and his concept of allah(i.e. Islam) As such the Islamic concept of
    peace meaning making the whole world Muslim , is actually a mandate for war.
     Vernon Richards

  • http://twitter.com/tonykeywest Anthony Capo

    this criminal is being arraigned Feb 6 2012 8:30 am courtroom 20 hillsborough annex courthouse bldg 2 in Tampa. I can testify that he is a threat to society , this man attacked me in april 2011 in Tampa for preaching Jesus Christ.  You can see the video on Youtube at  Muslim attacks street preacherhttp://www.youtube.com/user/GODH8ZZ?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/-bN6rheJEZQ

  • ANGLO SAXON

    I’m getting pissed off.Why do they keep taking my crusader avatar out and putting a blank standard one in.?

    • Anonymous

      Thats real bad, my brother

  • http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/islam-guide.pdf Opponent

    Innocent until proven guilty, no?